If Schenn keeps playing the way he has for the past month-not just production wise, but overall game-I'd be happy with 25 goals, too.

The production is great, but the overall game is more important. If he's playing like he has been, the points will come
- Jsaquella

No secret. It's all about the feistiness. Feisty Schenn is best Schenn.

Mkay bud. Time to calm down.

The Umberger thing was a joke. Everyone on this board rides him for how bad he is. He was saying since he's put up a few points lately, everyone owes RJ an apology. Sarcasm and a simple joke. No big deal. He wasn't singling you out.

As with everything else, it takes 2 to tango. If you're getting so defensive about getting into these arguments, don't get into them! Easy. I'll admit I've been saying elitiot™ a lot lately, but it's not to make fun of you. It's to make fun of these boards and how this ENTIRE group of people can go on tangents like that litrilly for days at a time. Which is what happened there.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. That certainly includes you. The issue with you sometimes though, is someone will disagree with your opinion (also fine) and instead of discussing it, you for some reason just- overreact. Like you're doing now. It seems like you're the one leading the charge to be up in the faces of people who disagree with you for pages on end. Maybe that's not the case, but it definitely seems like that. But hey- maybe I'm just reading things wrong. It's the internet of course! Things can be misinterpreted with lack of voice inflection, etc

You just kinda act paranoid a little bit, dude. And that causes you to post things that are very reactionary. If someone just disagrees, sometimes you sound like you come at them for it. Naturally others are going to jump in at that point. And once people are riled up in here, forget it.

Me and mononoke had differing opinions for how much to give up for Laine. We had a convo about it for about half a page. No jumping at each other...no knee jerk posts....no "you're wrongs".

Look at what you posted today about Simmer and Schenn with their 30 goal possibilities. You asked people what they think would happen. Bill responded with what he thought would happen. Then what did you do? Offered a bit of an argumentative response:



Why? Again, maybe you didn't mean it to come off like that, but this is the internet. It's important to type how you'd talk. Perhaps a better way to phrase that to really make sure civil discussion ensues would be "I can definitely see that happening, but I have a feeling a contract year and the playoff push might enough to push Schenn over the 30 g threshold. But we'll see!"

See what I mean? Kind of comes off as less argumentative. Then we would have someone jumping at you, nor would we have an big to do.

Everyone take a chill pill. We call them benzodiazepines, in the biz
- Giroux_Is_God

I'm not reading this.

If Schenn keeps playing the way he has for the past month-not just production wise, but overall game-I'd be happy with 25 goals, too.

The production is great, but the overall game is more important. If he's playing like he has been, the points will come
- Jsaquella

I expect far more then 8 goals in his next 26 games.

I expect far more then 8 goals in his next 26 games.
- SuperSchennBros

As good as he's playing thirty is a bit of a stretch. He's played well though and I hope they don't trade him...

I'm not reading this.
- SuperSchennBros

Can't say I didn't try. Cheers.

- Completely unnecessary push from behind going into the boards injured a player
- Complete blind side by Gudas he's obviously an idiot out to injure people.
- Slash to the back of the leg (luckily it hurt enough to get a bs embellishment call. I'd like to see you get hit there and see if you don't have a similar reaction.)
- Knee on knee from Simmonds.

Just to name a few

I understand you have to win some games, somehow, but that game was pretty attrocious. I am sure some of you troglodytes thought that was really cool because you also are avid professional wrestling fans but that was a crap showing. Intentionally trying to injure players is a bullpoop minor league strategy that won't sustain any long term success and is also why your team is mediocre at best and probably always will be.

- Completely unnecessary push from behind going into the boards injured a player
- Complete blind side by Gudas he's obviously an idiot out to injure people.
- Slash to the back of the leg (luckily it hurt enough to get a bs embellishment call. I'd like to see you get hit there and see if you don't have a similar reaction.)
- Knee on knee from Simmonds.

Just to name a few

I understand you have to win some games, somehow, but that game was pretty attrocious. I am sure some of you troglodytes thought that was really cool because you also are avid professional wrestling fans but that was a crap showing. Intentionally trying to injure players is a bullpoop minor league strategy that won't sustain any long term success and is also why your team is mediocre at best and probably always will be.
- TRDevil

yeah but we won

- Completely unnecessary push from behind going into the boards injured a player
- Complete blind side by Gudas he's obviously an idiot out to injure people.
- Slash to the back of the leg (luckily it hurt enough to get a bs embellishment call. I'd like to see you get hit there and see if you don't have a similar reaction.)
- Knee on knee from Simmonds.

Just to name a few

I understand you have to win some games, somehow, but that game was pretty attrocious. I am sure some of you troglodytes thought that was really cool because you also are avid professional wrestling fans but that was a crap showing. Intentionally trying to injure players is a bullpoop minor league strategy that won't sustain any long term success and is also why your team is mediocre at best and probably always will be.
- TRDevil

Have a Kleenex and dry your eyes

No secret. It's all about the feistiness. Feisty Schenn is best Schenn.
- Giroux_Is_God

I just fear a contract for too long & too much that could be coming.

I just fear a contract for too long & too much that could be coming.
- ob18

Exactly my fear about Brayden Schenn.

Glad to see he's scoring. That was a nice shot last night.

Please, please, please don't overpay him based on this year.

- Completely unnecessary push from behind going into the boards injured a player
- Complete blind side by Gudas he's obviously an idiot out to injure people.
- Slash to the back of the leg (luckily it hurt enough to get a bs embellishment call. I'd like to see you get hit there and see if you don't have a similar reaction.)
- Knee on knee from Simmonds.

Just to name a few

I understand you have to win some games, somehow, but that game was pretty attrocious. I am sure some of you troglodytes thought that was really cool because you also are avid professional wrestling fans but that was a crap showing. Intentionally trying to injure players is a bullpoop minor league strategy that won't sustain any long term success and is also why your team is mediocre at best and probably always will be.
- TRDevil

Hockey is a great sport. You should continue to watch it and maybe learn something about it.

Oh, and even Blandisi admitted, post-game, that he was wrong to embellish that call. So, you're defending a guy about an embellishment call and that guy isn't even defending himself on that same call. So, good luck with that!

Have fun and enjoy following the sport!

- Completely unnecessary push from behind going into the boards injured a player
- Complete blind side by Gudas he's obviously an idiot out to injure people.
- Slash to the back of the leg (luckily it hurt enough to get a bs embellishment call. I'd like to see you get hit there and see if you don't have a similar reaction.)
- Knee on knee from Simmonds.

Just to name a few

I understand you have to win some games, somehow, but that game was pretty attrocious. I am sure some of you troglodytes thought that was really cool because you also are avid professional wrestling fans but that was a crap showing. Intentionally trying to injure players is a bullpoop minor league strategy that won't sustain any long term success and is also why your team is mediocre at best and probably always will be.
- TRDevil

The Gudas hit was because your pain in the butt player was going after Shultz for his cross check to the back of the devils player that went into the boards. I didn't like either. Gudas has gone to my not liking lately pile of players. That was a cheap shot while a player was engaged with another. He should have only gotten 2 min but really it was just a stupid penalty to take whether it was 2 or 5 minutes.pointless.

the Simmonds hit was also a question mark. I was thinking it should have been a kneeing or tripping. He did stick his leg out while making the hit.

No matter what happened the Gudas hit was not needed it was flat out dirty.

That stuff isn't needed in the game.

The Gudas hit was because your pain in the butt player was going after Shultz for his cross check to the back of the devils player that went into the boards. I didn't like either. Gudas has gone to my not liking lately pile of players. That was a cheap shot while a player was engaged with another. He should have only gotten 2 min but really it was just a stupid penalty to take whether it was 2 or 5 minutes.pointless.

the Simmonds hit was also a question mark. I was thinking it should have been a kneeing or tripping. He did stick his leg out while making the hit.
- jmdodgeser4

The only thing that bugged me about all that crap was that the Devils weren't going to do anything back while down only 1 and while still in the hunt for a play off spot. The knee was what it was no one was really hurt but it was unnecessary. The Gudas hit was just stupid but made me laugh ( It was something some of the kids on my team would of down back in the day so I can get a kick out of that stuff ). The slash on Blandisi was a slash but you can't jump in the air like that but he is a kid so he will learn from that and hopefully doesn't do it again. Our team was just flat and I don't think all the power plays in the world where going to get us the win last night it was just one of those nights and Cory was bound to have a stinker he has been to good not to have one. Just sucks we have to sit on this loss till friday lol

The only thing that bugged me about all that crap was that the Devils weren't going to do anything back while down only 1 and while still in the hunt for a play off spot. The knee was what it was no one was really hurt but it was unnecessary. The Gudas hit was just stupid but made me laugh ( It was something some of the kids on my team would of down back in the day so I can get a kick out of that stuff ). The slash on Blandisi was a slash but you can't jump in the air like that but he is a kid so he will learn from that and hopefully doesn't do it again. Our team was just flat and I don't think all the power plays in the world where going to get us the win last night it was just one of those nights and Cory was bound to have a stinker he has been to good not to have one. Just sucks we have to sit on this loss till friday lol
- blizzzard

I keep waiting for the wheels to fall off of the devils. They don't score at all but yet are in the middle of the playoff picture. Now don't get me wrong, I would prefer anybody make the playoffs ahead of us. We are building a pretty sick d and need to add some forward prospects of note. We have konecky and he looks good so far but need more. Another high pick can give us that and I will glady sit through another year and half of this poop show to have a strong team going forward.

- Completely unnecessary push from behind going into the boards injured a player
- Complete blind side by Gudas he's obviously an idiot out to injure people.
- Slash to the back of the leg (luckily it hurt enough to get a bs embellishment call. I'd like to see you get hit there and see if you don't have a similar reaction.)
- Knee on knee from Simmonds.

Just to name a few

I understand you have to win some games, somehow, but that game was pretty attrocious. I am sure some of you troglodytes thought that was really cool because you also are avid professional wrestling fans but that was a crap showing. Intentionally trying to injure players is a bullpoop minor league strategy that won't sustain any long term success and is also why your team is mediocre at best and probably always will be.
- TRDevil

1) Gudas has unfortunately earned his rep, but that would have been a interference minor (and a very silly one to take, at that) by any other player. However, it was also an embellishment by Farnham, who has already been flagged and fined by the NHL for two dives/embellishments this year and carried a rep in the AHL of a guy who is not above doing that. Neither Gudas nor Farnham can be trusted. That's the bottom line. Farnham didn't miss a shift.

2) Blandisi himself admitted he embellished and should have reacted normally rather than, for the "benefit" of the officials, doing his aerial flip way after the fact. It was a needless and clear-cut slash. The sell was so over-the-top that it's going to be replayed whenever diving/embellishment videos are made -- and I don't mean by fans on Youtube, I mean by the NHL when they instruct their officials.

3) Glass houses, my friend. Devils are last in the NHL in scoring, live and die on the goaltending and special teams, have missed the playoffs four of the last five seasons and are in a precarious spot this season (especially having played more games than most of the teams right on their heels).

In the time since the Devils won their last Cup in 2003 -- with a trip to the Finals along the way and beating the Flyers in 2012, admittedly -- they've had four first-round exits, two second-round exits and four years out of the playoffs. In the same span, the Flyers have twice lost in the conference finals, once in a six-game Stanley Cup Final that could have gone either way, two second rounds, two first round and missed three times (quite possibly a fourth). Oh, and Philly won two of the three playoff series (2004, 2010 and 2012) played against the Devils in that span.

Neither team has all that much to be proud of as late. However, what would you call the Devils nucleus to build around? What's the state Lou left the farm system before Ray Shero came in? Who are the potential impact players so the team doesn't have to rely on veteran retreads such as the Lee Stempniaks and Mike Cammalleris of the league to be top line players?

The Flyers farm system was a mess a few years ago but has been rebuilt quickly, to the point that Gostisbehere isn't even the highest overall upside young defenseman in the system. They are not teeming in forward prospects but Konecny is a top-flight one and there a few other guys with top-nine upside. Giroux, Voracek and Simmonds are in their primes. Schenn and (prior to injury) Couturier finally seem to blossoming into what the Flyers projected they'd be.

If they were stock futures, the Flyers would be the smarter buy than the Devils. I think Ray is a good GM and the team will get more pieces in place. But to come in here trolling based on pumping the Devils' tires is false bravado.

Finally, consider this a warning that if you can't be civil on this board, you will disappear from it.

No matter what happened the Gudas hit was not needed it was flat out dirty.

That stuff isn't needed in the game.
- ob18

Agreed

1) Gudas has unfortunately earned his rep, but that would have been a interference minor (and a very silly one to take, at that) by any other player. However, it was also an embellishment by Farnham, who has already been flagged and fined by the NHL for two dives/embellishments this year and carried a rep in the AHL of a guy who is not above doing that. Neither Gudas nor Farnham can be trusted. That's the bottom line. Farnham didn't miss a shift.

2) Blandisi himself admitted he embellished and should have reacted normally rather than, for the "benefit" of the officials, doing his aerial flip way after the fact. It was a needless and clear-cut slash. The sell was so over-the-top that it's going to be replayed whenever diving/embellishment videos are made -- and I don't mean by fans on Youtube, I mean by the NHL when they instruct their officials.

3) Glass houses, my friend. Devils are last in the NHL in scoring, live and die on the goaltending and special teams, have missed the playoffs four of the last five seasons and are in a precarious spot this season (especially having played more games than most of the teams right on their heels).

In the time since the Devils won their last Cup in 2003 -- with a trip to the Finals along the way and beating the Flyers in 2012, admittedly -- they've had four first-round exits, two second-round exits and four years out of the playoffs. In the same span, the Flyers have twice lost in the conference finals, once in a six-game Stanley Cup Final that could have gone either way, two second rounds, two first round and missed three times (quite possibly a fourth). Oh, and Philly won two of the three playoff series (2004, 2010 and 2012) played against the Devils in that span.

Neither team has all that much to be proud of as late. However, what would you call the Devils nucleus to build around? What's the state Lou left the farm system before Ray Shero came in? Who are the potential impact players so the team doesn't have to rely on veteran retreads such as the Lee Stempniaks and Mike Cammalleris of the league to be top line players?

The Flyers farm system was a mess a few years ago but has been rebuilt quickly, to the point that Gostisbehere isn't even the highest overall upside young defenseman in the system. They are not teeming in forward prospects but Konecny is a top-flight one and there a few other guys with top-nine upside. Giroux, Voracek and Simmonds are in their primes. Schenn and (prior to injury) Couturier finally seem to blossoming into what the Flyers projected they'd be.

If they were stock futures, the Flyers would be the smarter buy than the Devils. I think Ray is a good GM and the team will get more pieces in place. But to come in here trolling based on pumping the Devils' tires is false bravado.

Finally, consider this a warning that if you can't be civil on this board, you will disappear from it.
- bmeltzer

I keep waiting for the wheels to fall off of the devils. They don't score at all but yet are in the middle of the playoff picture. Now don't get me wrong, I would prefer anybody make the playoffs ahead of us. We are building a pretty sick d and need to add some forward prospects of note. We have konecky and he looks good so far but need more. Another high pick can give us that and I will glady sit through another year and half of this poop show to have a strong team going forward.
- jmdodgeser4

We are all Cory right now. If we could score 3 goals a game I think that makes us a very dangerous team but we need to land a player in his prime around 24-27 who can hit 30 goals every year. I think Patches would be a really good add if he was ever to be made available and I would give a good chunk to get a player like that on a decent contract. Larsson has turned into a minute munching machine and Cory is Cory if we got a decent scorer we would be so much more deadly but like I said we can't score unless it's on the pp and we can't score more then 2 goals in a game.

No matter what happened the Gudas hit was not needed it was flat out dirty.

That stuff isn't needed in the game.
- ob18

Kind of glad I missed the game now. I really liked Gudas, but the predatory stuff just has to stop... and obviously it isn't going to. I used to pride myself on the fact that the Flyers took it to their opposition physically and played with an edge, without having to resort to Marchment style bullpoop. I don't have the patience or stomach for it when someone rides that line.

1) Gudas has unfortunately earned his rep, but that would have been a interference minor (and a very silly one to take, at that) by any other player. However, it was also an embellishment by Farnham, who has already been flagged and fined by the NHL for two dives/embellishments this year and carried a rep in the AHL of a guy who is not above doing that. Neither Gudas nor Farnham can be trusted. That's the bottom line. Farnham didn't miss a shift.

2) Blandisi himself admitted he embellished and should have reacted normally rather than, for the "benefit" of the officials, doing his aerial flip way after the fact. It was a needless and clear-cut slash. The sell was so over-the-top that it's going to be replayed whenever diving/embellishment videos are made -- and I don't mean by fans on Youtube, I mean by the NHL when they instruct their officials.

3) Glass houses, my friend. Devils are last in the NHL in scoring, live and die on the goaltending and special teams, have missed the playoffs four of the last five seasons and are in a precarious spot this season (especially having played more games than most of the teams right on their heels).

In the time since the Devils won their last Cup in 2003 -- with a trip to the Finals along the way and beating the Flyers in 2012, admittedly -- they've had four first-round exits, two second-round exits and four years out of the playoffs. In the same span, the Flyers have twice lost in the conference finals, once in a six-game Stanley Cup Final that could have gone either way, two second rounds, two first round and missed three times (quite possibly a fourth). Oh, and Philly won two of the three playoff series (2004, 2010 and 2012) played against the Devils in that span.

Neither team has all that much to be proud of as late. However, what would you call the Devils nucleus to build around? What's the state Lou left the farm system before Ray Shero came in? Who are the potential impact players so the team doesn't have to rely on veteran retreads such as the Lee Stempniaks and Mike Cammalleris of the league to be top line players?

The Flyers farm system was a mess a few years ago but has been rebuilt quickly, to the point that Gostisbehere isn't even the highest overall upside young defenseman in the system. They are not teeming in forward prospects but Konecny is a top-flight one and there a few other guys with top-nine upside. Giroux, Voracek and Simmonds are in their primes. Schenn and (prior to injury) Couturier finally seem to blossoming into what the Flyers projected they'd be.

If they were stock futures, the Flyers would be the smarter buy than the Devils. I think Ray is a good GM and the team will get more pieces in place. But to come in here trolling based on pumping the Devils' tires is false bravado.

Finally, consider this a warning that if you can't be civil on this board, you will disappear from it.
- bmeltzer

Ouch lol I wish Todd had a bit of this in him. To be fair though our team is supposed to have or was supposed to of had a player named Kovalchuk who did what no player has done in my lifetime and completely (frank)ed over his team mates and Lou could not exactly control that or how much money the old owners of the team had. Now I am not sure how or what kind of shape the Flyers would be in if their owner was ever broke because it will likely never happen and the whole Kovalchuk type thing will also likely never happen again but I wouldn't just pit the state of the franchise on Lou, He was a true champion who would do anything to win and would never ever through in the towel and that's got to be something to be respected, I think anyways lol

Fell asleep and woke up for the last few minutes, i really thought this was another sufficating loss, going in.

The ghost point streak is nice but it will be meaningless for me without somekind of postseason run and we all know that ain't happening.

Ouch lol I wish Todd had a bit of this in him. To be fair though our team is supposed to have or was supposed to of had a player named Kovalchuk who did what no player has done in my lifetime and completely (frank)ed over his team mates and Lou could not exactly control that or how much money the old owners of the team had. Now I am not sure how or what kind of shape the Flyers would be in if their owner was ever broke because it will likely never happen and the whole Kovalchuk type thing will also likely never happen again but I wouldn't just pit the state of the franchise on Lou, He was a true champion who would do anything to win and would never ever through in the towel and that's got to be something to be respected, I think anyways lol
- blizzzard

Agree 100 percent re: Kovalchuk.

1) Gudas has unfortunately earned his rep, but that would have been a interference minor (and a very silly one to take, at that) by any other player. However, it was also an embellishment by Farnham, who has already been flagged and fined by the NHL for two dives/embellishments this year and carried a rep in the AHL of a guy who is not above doing that. Neither Gudas nor Farnham can be trusted. That's the bottom line. Farnham didn't miss a shift.

2) Blandisi himself admitted he embellished and should have reacted normally rather than, for the "benefit" of the officials, doing his aerial flip way after the fact. It was a needless and clear-cut slash. The sell was so over-the-top that it's going to be replayed whenever diving/embellishment videos are made -- and I don't mean by fans on Youtube, I mean by the NHL when they instruct their officials.

3) Glass houses, my friend. Devils are last in the NHL in scoring, live and die on the goaltending and special teams, have missed the playoffs four of the last five seasons and are in a precarious spot this season (especially having played more games than most of the teams right on their heels).

In the time since the Devils won their last Cup in 2003 -- with a trip to the Finals along the way and beating the Flyers in 2012, admittedly -- they've had four first-round exits, two second-round exits and four years out of the playoffs. In the same span, the Flyers have twice lost in the conference finals, once in a six-game Stanley Cup Final that could have gone either way, two second rounds, two first round and missed three times (quite possibly a fourth). Oh, and Philly won two of the three playoff series (2004, 2010 and 2012) played against the Devils in that span.

Neither team has all that much to be proud of as late. However, what would you call the Devils nucleus to build around? What's the state Lou left the farm system before Ray Shero came in? Who are the potential impact players so the team doesn't have to rely on veteran retreads such as the Lee Stempniaks and Mike Cammalleris of the league to be top line players?

The Flyers farm system was a mess a few years ago but has been rebuilt quickly, to the point that Gostisbehere isn't even the highest overall upside young defenseman in the system. They are not teeming in forward prospects but Konecny is a top-flight one and there a few other guys with top-nine upside. Giroux, Voracek and Simmonds are in their primes. Schenn and (prior to injury) Couturier finally seem to blossoming into what the Flyers projected they'd be.

If they were stock futures, the Flyers would be the smarter buy than the Devils. I think Ray is a good GM and the team will get more pieces in place. But to come in here trolling based on pumping the Devils' tires is false bravado.

Finally, consider this a warning that if you can't be civil on this board, you will disappear from it.
- bmeltzer

You tell em Bill!

And Jake has to get 11 in 26 games to hit 20G
- arichardson22

Or Jake needs 25 points in 26 games to hit 70.
Claude 21 points in 26 games to 70