They're probably more defensive with me for whatever unknown reason.....
- golfingsince

Because you're an antagonist?

They're not doing it, for what ever reason so we don't have that option.


Hrudys strength comes from analysis between periods and such ve douchebag Healy acting like an imbecile during periods.


Goalie are in a unique sistuation in that they know about what works for goal scoring as well or better than anyone, if if they haven't scored one themselves.
- burn

Healy's Miller comparison last night was embarrassing !! Anyone catch that nonsense ?

Because you're an antagonist?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I'm the Mulder of hockeybuzz.

I'm the Mulder of hockeybuzz.
- golfingsince

Wheres Scully??

Mike:

With all due respect, why is it that when you talk about the possibility of Stamkos coming to Toronto (or to Canada in general), you almost never take into account that there is no State Income Tax in Florida, but there is a hefty 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario for incomes in excess of $200,000 per year?

Many journalists covering this story--not you in particular, Mike--presume that $10 million per year in Toronto would be $1.5 million per year better than the $8.5 million per year that was unofficially reported as the Lightning's opening offer to Stamkos recently, when that is not even close to being the case:

Not taking Federal Income Taxes into account, if indeed NHL players pay State/Provincial Income Taxes only in the state/province in which their employer resides and where their pay checks are issued, taking the 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario into account, $10 million per year in Toronto equals $8.684 million per year in Tampa Bay. And, since, as Red Green says, "Everything in Canada leans slightly to the left," I'm guessing also that the Federal Tax code in the US is perhaps easier on millionaires who give to charities than the Federal Tax code in Canada is--especially since the Bush Tax Cuts for the ultra-rich were signed into law by President Obama. There are plenty of tax shelters for millionaires in the US.

All that aside, some reporters also presume that Steven Stamkos _surely_ wants to make as much money as possible (because that is what they would do if they were him), but that might not be the case at all. Stamkos has been quite open about his desire to stay in Tampa Bay and show much he loves playing here, while many in the sports media presume that Stamkos is secretly angry at Jon Cooper because he does not get to play Center all of the time. The leading lights of the media so ignore the possibility that Steven Stamkos might even take a home-town discount in order to help the very talented Lightning, for whom he wears the "C", stay intact, as much as possible, in order to make several more runs at the Stanley Cup.

Or, on another note, it might even be that the Lightning have already let Steven Stamkos know that they can't afford him in the long run, but that they want him to stay for the rest of the year in order to make another run at the Stanley Cup with him on the team. As long as the negotiations are not subject to media scrutiny--a brilliant move by both Stamkos and Yzerman--nobody else knows for sure. But, the Canadian media--especially TSN--will continue to be biased toward Canadian teams, especially Toronto and Montreal.

I might be wrong, because I don't know anything more than anyone else about what is going on secretly in the negotiations, but my gut feeling is that Steven Stamkos will sign an extension in the off-season, after the Lightning move some big contracts and trade Jonathan Drouin. Don't underestimate Steve Yzerman's savvy when it comes to dealing with tough situations. This contract negotiation didn't catch him by surprise, and having too many good players is almost always a _good_ problem to have. Mr. Yzerman and Al Murray have done an outstanding job of building a stacked hockey team built for the long-haul; rumors that the Lightning are somehow "doomed" because of the Salary cap and the declining Canadian dollar are greatly exaggerated.

Mike:

With all due respect, why is it that when you talk about the possibility of Stamkos coming to Toronto (or to Canada in general), you almost never take into account that there is no State Income Tax in Florida, but there is a hefty 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario for incomes in excess of $200,000 per year?

Many journalists covering this story--not you in particular, Mike--presume that $10 million per year in Toronto would be $1.5 million per year better than the $8.5 million per year that was unofficially reported as the Lightning's opening offer to Stamkos recently, when that is not even close to being the case:

Not taking Federal Income Taxes into account, if indeed NHL players pay State/Provincial Income Taxes only in the state/province in which their employer resides and where their pay checks are issued, taking the 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario into account, $10 million per year in Toronto equals $8.684 million per year in Tampa Bay. And, since, as Red Green says, "Everything in Canada leans slightly to the left," I'm guessing also that the Federal Tax code in the US is perhaps easier on millionaires who give to charities than the Federal Tax code in Canada is--especially since the Bush Tax Cuts for the ultra-rich were signed into law by President Obama. There are plenty of tax shelters for millionaires in the US.

All that aside, some reporters also presume that Steven Stamkos _surely_ wants to make as much money as possible (because that is what they would do if they were him), but that might not be the case at all. Stamkos has been quite open about his desire to stay in Tampa Bay and show much he loves playing here, while many in the sports media presume that Stamkos is secretly angry at Jon Cooper because he does not get to play Center all of the time. The leading lights of the media so ignore the possibility that Steven Stamkos might even take a home-town discount in order to help the very talented Lightning, for whom he wears the "C", stay intact, as much as possible, in order to make several more runs at the Stanley Cup.

Or, on another note, it might even be that the Lightning have already let Steven Stamkos know that they can't afford him in the long run, but that they want him to stay for the rest of the year in order to make another run at the Stanley Cup with him on the team. As long as the negotiations are not subject to media scrutiny--a brilliant move by both Stamkos and Yzerman--nobody else knows for sure. But, the Canadian media--especially TSN--will continue to be biased toward Canadian teams, especially Toronto and Montreal.

I might be wrong, because I don't know anything more than anyone else about what is going on secretly in the negotiations, but my gut feeling is that Steven Stamkos will sign an extension in the off-season, after the Lightning move some big contracts and trade Jonathan Drouin. Don't underestimate Steve Yzerman's savvy when it comes to dealing with tough situations. This contract negotiation didn't catch him by surprise, and having too many good players is almost always a _good_ problem to have. Mr. Yzerman and Al Murray have done an outstanding job of building a stacked hockey team built for the long-haul; rumors that the Lightning are somehow "doomed" because of the Salary cap and the declining Canadian dollar are greatly exaggerated.
- TommyRitas

Oh

Mike:

With all due respect, why is it that when you talk about the possibility of Stamkos coming to Toronto (or to Canada in general), you almost never take into account that there is no State Income Tax in Florida, but there is a hefty 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario for incomes in excess of $200,000 per year?

Many journalists covering this story--not you in particular, Mike--presume that $10 million per year in Toronto would be $1.5 million per year better than the $8.5 million per year that was unofficially reported as the Lightning's opening offer to Stamkos recently, when that is not even close to being the case:

Not taking Federal Income Taxes into account, if indeed NHL players pay State/Provincial Income Taxes only in the state/province in which their employer resides and where their pay checks are issued, taking the 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario into account, $10 million per year in Toronto equals $8.684 million per year in Tampa Bay. And, since, as Red Green says, "Everything in Canada leans slightly to the left," I'm guessing also that the Federal Tax code in the US is perhaps easier on millionaires who give to charities than the Federal Tax code in Canada is--especially since the Bush Tax Cuts for the ultra-rich were signed into law by President Obama. There are plenty of tax shelters for millionaires in the US.

All that aside, some reporters also presume that Steven Stamkos _surely_ wants to make as much money as possible (because that is what they would do if they were him), but that might not be the case at all. Stamkos has been quite open about his desire to stay in Tampa Bay and show much he loves playing here, while many in the sports media presume that Stamkos is secretly angry at Jon Cooper because he does not get to play Center all of the time. The leading lights of the media so ignore the possibility that Steven Stamkos might even take a home-town discount in order to help the very talented Lightning, for whom he wears the "C", stay intact, as much as possible, in order to make several more runs at the Stanley Cup.

Or, on another note, it might even be that the Lightning have already let Steven Stamkos know that they can't afford him in the long run, but that they want him to stay for the rest of the year in order to make another run at the Stanley Cup with him on the team. As long as the negotiations are not subject to media scrutiny--a brilliant move by both Stamkos and Yzerman--nobody else knows for sure. But, the Canadian media--especially TSN--will continue to be biased toward Canadian teams, especially Toronto and Montreal.

I might be wrong, because I don't know anything more than anyone else about what is going on secretly in the negotiations, but my gut feeling is that Steven Stamkos will sign an extension in the off-season, after the Lightning move some big contracts and trade Jonathan Drouin. Don't underestimate Steve Yzerman's savvy when it comes to dealing with tough situations. This contract negotiation didn't catch him by surprise, and having too many good players is almost always a _good_ problem to have. Mr. Yzerman and Al Murray have done an outstanding job of building a stacked hockey team built for the long-haul; rumors that the Lightning are somehow "doomed" because of the Salary cap and the declining Canadian dollar are greatly exaggerated.
- TommyRitas

Go on

To this point, no one knew that Corrado suffered a separated shoulder during the playoffs and played through it. It depends on degree, but generally it’s a 3-5 week rehab for NHL players before they can play again.

Q: Did that impact you for weeks?

Corrado: Months.

“It happened in the first round. It was Game 3 against Chicago(AHL Wolves). At home. I separated my shoulder. I played the rest of the playoffs with it.

“It’s one of those things that take a long time to heal. Throughout the summer, especially when you have a late summer like that, there wasn’t much I could do.

“I had to let it heal. When it got time where I could really push it, it was basically training camp.”

So, he just played through a broken hand and a separated shoulder and was given up on by a team who concluded he had a poor training camp even though he couldn’t work out in the summer?

It also was a reason Corrado didn’t play much with the Leafs when he arrived.

“It was easier in (Toronto) because there was a plan. I knew they had a plan for me. They had a picture of when they wanted me to play.
“Knowing that there was a group who had a plan for me, made things easier. They talked to me, let me know. ‘Keep getting stronger,’ they said.

“The time off, I got a lot of time to work out and that helped because I missed the time in the summer.”
- Fruitcakenipple

Interesting. Trolls and conspiracy theorists can sit down and shut off now. Back to the drawing board of Leaf hate....

So what kinda contract Rielly gonna get this summer??

5-6 per long term??
- Fruitcakenipple

If I'm Toronto, I sign him ASAP, long term and take away as many UFA years as possible. He'll be overpaid for two years and worth the risk the rest of the contract.

Oh
- Fruitcakenipple

This summer i'm coming over for some screech.

Interesting. Trolls and conspiracy theorists can sit down and shut off now. Back to the drawing board of Leaf hate....
- Phenom

Personally I read that as the Olympics are still a real possibility.

Mike:

With all due respect, why is it that when you talk about the possibility of Stamkos coming to Toronto (or to Canada in general), you almost never take into account that there is no State Income Tax in Florida, but there is a hefty 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario for incomes in excess of $200,000 per year?

Many journalists covering this story--not you in particular, Mike--presume that $10 million per year in Toronto would be $1.5 million per year better than the $8.5 million per year that was unofficially reported as the Lightning's opening offer to Stamkos recently, when that is not even close to being the case:

Not taking Federal Income Taxes into account, if indeed NHL players pay State/Provincial Income Taxes only in the state/province in which their employer resides and where their pay checks are issued, taking the 13.16% Provincial Income Tax in Ontario into account, $10 million per year in Toronto equals $8.684 million per year in Tampa Bay. And, since, as Red Green says, "Everything in Canada leans slightly to the left," I'm guessing also that the Federal Tax code in the US is perhaps easier on millionaires who give to charities than the Federal Tax code in Canada is--especially since the Bush Tax Cuts for the ultra-rich were signed into law by President Obama. There are plenty of tax shelters for millionaires in the US.

All that aside, some reporters also presume that Steven Stamkos _surely_ wants to make as much money as possible (because that is what they would do if they were him), but that might not be the case at all. Stamkos has been quite open about his desire to stay in Tampa Bay and show much he loves playing here, while many in the sports media presume that Stamkos is secretly angry at Jon Cooper because he does not get to play Center all of the time. The leading lights of the media so ignore the possibility that Steven Stamkos might even take a home-town discount in order to help the very talented Lightning, for whom he wears the "C", stay intact, as much as possible, in order to make several more runs at the Stanley Cup.

Or, on another note, it might even be that the Lightning have already let Steven Stamkos know that they can't afford him in the long run, but that they want him to stay for the rest of the year in order to make another run at the Stanley Cup with him on the team. As long as the negotiations are not subject to media scrutiny--a brilliant move by both Stamkos and Yzerman--nobody else knows for sure. But, the Canadian media--especially TSN--will continue to be biased toward Canadian teams, especially Toronto and Montreal.

I might be wrong, because I don't know anything more than anyone else about what is going on secretly in the negotiations, but my gut feeling is that Steven Stamkos will sign an extension in the off-season, after the Lightning move some big contracts and trade Jonathan Drouin. Don't underestimate Steve Yzerman's savvy when it comes to dealing with tough situations. This contract negotiation didn't catch him by surprise, and having too many good players is almost always a _good_ problem to have. Mr. Yzerman and Al Murray have done an outstanding job of building a stacked hockey team built for the long-haul; rumors that the Lightning are somehow "doomed" because of the Salary cap and the declining Canadian dollar are greatly exaggerated.
- TommyRitas

http://probballreport.com...ax-in-toronto-blown-away/

You need to read this.

Don't think they can get away with that.

Oh, and by the way, do you mind going back and finding the Leafs fan who thought Kessel and Phaneuf were going to lead us to the promised land?
- Aetherial

Or get us a poop load of 1sts and A - level prospect in trade. ....

This summer i'm coming over for some screech.
- golfingsince

Screech....pffft. Bullpoop. Plain ol imported rum ffs. And I thought it was real...like Santa.

Screech....pffft. Bullpoop. Plain ol imported rum ffs. And I thought it was real...like Santa.
- Woderwick

- Sammich

I fealt violated.

Healy's Miller comparison last night was embarrassing !! Anyone catch that nonsense ?
- MountAlbert

Sometimes I feel like some of us are more knowledgeable than the analysts, etc. Watching the Kings/Devils game earlier today, they asked a trivia question: Who is the winningest American-born goalie in NHL history? John VanBiesbrouck and Tom Barrasso entered my mind immediately with Richter as a sleeper. One of the broadcasters guessed Ryan Miller.

I fealt violated.
- Woderwick

you're supposed to kiss the cod

you're supposed to kiss the cod
- Sammich

Puffins butt.

Puffins butt.
- Woderwick

cute little bastard
I won't judge you

cute little bastard
I won't judge you
- Sammich

- Woderwick

I fealt violated.
- Woderwick

Obviously too much screech.....

Obviously too much screech.....
- golfingsince

Screech....pffft. Bullpoop. Plain ol imported rum ffs. And I thought it was real...like Santa.
- Woderwick

My newfie buddy brought me a bottle home one time. He insisted I crack it open with him. Drank half of it and was hanging half naked from the chandelier wearing a war helmet, holding a cat in one hand and a cowbell in the other.