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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 10 @ 7:22 PM ET
Sutter doesn't like him. He's been a healthy scratch for a while now. Kings have a ton of skillful forwards to come up. I would love to get Pearson to play with vey.
- Codes1087


really hey? well I'd definitely be into taking advantage of Sutter's opinion
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 10 @ 7:23 PM ET
There is a reason Sutter doesn't like him. I'd prefer draft picks to Pearson. A bit more detail on the Hamhuis situation

http://www.thescore.com/news/957107

- CanuckDon


what is the reason?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 10 @ 7:24 PM ET
There is a reason Sutter doesn't like him. I'd prefer draft picks to Pearson. A bit more detail on the Hamhuis situation

http://www.thescore.com/news/957107

- CanuckDon


I imagine the 1st, if that is what you think la would give us, would probably be between 26 and 30 overall. Pearson is obviously more than a prospect so it depends on how fast benning would want success. I would prefer a pick which is why I figure Pearson and a 2nd or third would be nice and fair. LA wants a rental d man.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 10 @ 7:30 PM ET
Depending on how Hammer handles it, after TDL if he doesn't waive I would put him on Waivers and let w/e team that wants him take him. But this depends on why he doesn't waive/if he even gets asked. I would honestly say to him "Look, we plan to resign you in the off season. We aren't making the playoffs this year. Will you please waive to be traded and we will sign you back, should you want to resign with us?"
- Retinalz


You would punish Hamhuis by putting him on waivers? WOW WOW
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 10 @ 7:30 PM ET
Brad Ziemer ‏@BradZiemer · 4m4 minutes ago  Arizona, USA
Benning says team will recall weber and Friesen #canucks

I'd rather Pedan... Weber might be worth more while he is in the ahl...

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Willie says McCann will play Saturday against the Leafs #canucks

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 10 @ 7:36 PM ET
what is the reason?
- neem55


He has been pretty poor this season and played himself off Toffolis line. He hasn't been able to find any level of consistency in the NHL and he is a perimeter play in my opinion. He may be worth taking a chance on but if I had to choose between him and a first round pick I would def. choose the draft pick. Perhaps he is worth a mid round pick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:39 PM ET
What a load of sh!t. Where in the contract or in the NTC, does it say you must waive your clause to help the team in the future?
Sorry man, but I hate that crap that, before your contract (signed in good faith) ends, you should rip it up and get traded. He owes the team squat once the contract ends.

- Marwood



That's right he owes the team squat.

And after his contract the team owes him squat.

I think that is what I said no?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Feb 10 @ 7:40 PM ET
Depending on how Hammer handles it, after TDL if he doesn't waive I would put him on Waivers and let w/e team that wants him take him. But this depends on why he doesn't waive/if he even gets asked. I would honestly say to him "Look, we plan to resign you in the off season. We aren't making the playoffs this year. Will you please waive to be traded and we will sign you back, should you want to resign with us?"
- Retinalz


I'm pretty sure you can't put Hamhuis on waivers, as I'm sure part of his NTC also addresses issues such as that. Not to mention, the organization would look like it's a Mickey Mouse operation.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 10 @ 7:40 PM ET
You would punish Hamhuis by putting him on waivers? WOW WOW
- CanuckDon

Yes I would. A true team player would waive the final year of his NTC if the team wasn't going to make the playoffs(or had a snowballs chance in hell like we do) if it meant a guaranteed contract back with that team in the off season(one he reportedly wants to resign with). Otherwise he is just being selfish(which he has every right to do), but I am a vindictive b4st4rd and would put him on waivers after TDL and let w/e team wants him for the rest of the season have him. Or he can do to the other side of the continent to play.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 10 @ 7:41 PM ET
I'm pretty sure you can't put Hamhuis on waivers, as I'm sure part of his NTC also addresses issues such as that. Not to mention, the organization would look it's a Mickey Mouse operation.
- Zogg

I thought it was NMC that you can't be place on waivers. NTC you just can't be traded without consent.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:41 PM ET
Depending on how Hammer handles it, after TDL if he doesn't waive I would put him on Waivers and let w/e team that wants him take him. But this depends on why he doesn't waive/if he even gets asked. I would honestly say to him "Look, we plan to resign you in the off season. We aren't making the playoffs this year. Will you please waive to be traded and we will sign you back, should you want to resign with us?"
- Retinalz

*adds 'head exploding' emoticon to the list of needed*
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 10 @ 7:42 PM ET
He has been pretty poor this season and played himself off Toffolis line. He hasn't been able to find any level of consistency in the NHL and he is a perimeter play in my opinion. He may be worth taking a chance on but if I had to choose between him and a first round pick I would def. choose the draft pick. Perhaps he is worth a mid round pick
- CanuckDon


that's it? There's a big difference between a coach not liking a player and a player not playing up to his potential yet.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:42 PM ET
I agree. If a player has a ntc and doesn't want to waive, end of story no hard feelings. Benning can ask but if he says no, he has to move on and let it go. Hammer has every right to decline, he signed the contract.
- Codes1087

That is what I said. He has the right to say no thanks. Same as at the end of the year Canucks have the right to say no thanks when he is looking for a new contract.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:43 PM ET
That's right he owes the team squat.

And after his contract the team owes him squat.

I think that is what I said no?

- VANTEL

I didn't come across quite that simple but I just had a jazzy, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:44 PM ET
Yes I would. A true team player would waive the final year of his NTC if the team wasn't going to make the playoffs(or had a snowballs chance in hell like we do) if it meant a guaranteed contract back with that team in the off season(one he reportedly wants to resign with). Otherwise he is just being selfish(which he has every right to do), but I am a vindictive b4st4rd and would put him on waivers after TDL and let w/e team wants him for the rest of the season have him. Or he can do to the other side of the continent to play.
- Retinalz

Why?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 10 @ 7:45 PM ET
I thought it was NMC that you can't be place on waivers. NTC you just can't be traded without consent.
- Retinalz


you are correct, but if hammer doesn't waive his ntc, I hope he wouldn't be waived by the club, might hurt future free agent opportunities... comes across a little spiteful.

healthy scratches for Hamhuis to get other dmen into the lineup to see where they are at in their development, but not waived.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 10 @ 7:47 PM ET
Why?
- Marwood

I like how you ignored the rest of the comment. Bravo.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:48 PM ET
That is what I said. He has the right to say no thanks. Same as at the end of the year Canucks have the right to say no thanks when he is looking for a new contract.
- VANTEL

That's what he signed. The Canucks would look childish & petty by having a little huffy-fit, and say even though we want to re-sign , we're not going to because you have a poo-face.



However is in charge, we desperately need a 'head exploding' emoticon added to the choices!!
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 10 @ 7:48 PM ET
you are correct, but if hammer doesn't waive his ntc, I hope he wouldn't be waived by the club, might hurt future free agent opportunities... comes across a little spiteful.

healthy scratches for Hamhuis to get other dmen into the lineup to see where they are at in their development, but not waived.

- hillbillydeluxe

Alright, i'll concede to your point to just not play him for the rest of the season instead.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:49 PM ET
I didn't come across quite that simple but I just had a jazzy, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
- Marwood



I have said it before. He is a family man he has that NTC he is playing in the rules of their agreement.

Canucks don't need him after this season and need to pay attention to the RH side of the D and have lots of money to try and fix it. The smart thing is to let him walk. Let him find employment somewhere else.

Shake hands and part ways.

If Dan said I would like to stay on past next year if he went out of his way to help the club then maybe they try to do the same for him for his next contract.

If not shake hands wish each other luck much like Sundin did
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:50 PM ET
I like how you ignored the rest of the comment. Bravo.
- Retinalz

I didn't ignore it I was cleaning up vomit.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:52 PM ET
I have said it before. He is a family man he has that NTC he is playing in the rules of their agreement.

Canucks don't need him after this season and need to pay attention to the RH side of the D and have lots of money to try and fix it. The smart thing is to let him walk. Let him find employment somewhere else.

Shake hands and part ways.

If Dan said I would like to stay on past next year if he went out of his way to help the club then maybe they try to do the same for him for his next contract.

If not shake hands wish each other luck much like Sundin did

- VANTEL

They re-called Yannick Weber for tonight. We might need him after all.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 7:53 PM ET
A second round pick and a good prospect in lindberg seems like overpayment to me. he's a 3-4 d-man with an absurd contract of 7 mil for next 4 years. They now have 20 mil in cap space and another pick and prospect. Big win, Cowen might even pan out who knows
- neem55

His contract is front loaded its perfect for the sens who have an internal budget. Love the deal for the sens.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:54 PM ET
That's what he signed. The Canucks would look childish & petty by having a little huffy-fit, and say even though we want to re-sign , we're not going to because you have a poo-face.



However is in charge, we desperately need a 'head exploding' emoticon added to the choices!!

- Marwood

Bennings as never come out and said he wants to re-sign him , he has always said Dan is an important part of the team , we will reevaluate at the end of the year.

Quite frankly I would be very surprised if Benning did give him a new contract
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 7:55 PM ET
They re-called Yannick Weber for tonight. We might need him after all.
- Marwood

Not really , we are not winning the cup this year.
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