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dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 11 @ 10:17 AM ET
I know what Kreider is at this point. I've seen him for years. He can be effective. I think he can score 25 goals, if he ever gets his head out of his ass, but I just don't see a Superstar. The question in my view is not whether I am willing to take the chance that Kreider can put it together in Tampa, but whether I am willing to take the chance that Drouin will be better for the Rangers than Kreider would be for the Rangers.

Players going both directions. Kreider can put it together in Tampa, and it could still be a good deal for the Rangers. Or it may not be. Uncertainty is part of every trade.

And Drouin is locked in next year at 900K. How much is Kreider going to get?

- Pete V

The way he's played so far this year, not much. There's a silver lining.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
So, about the Rangers being sellers at the deadline?
- MidnightMarauder


not a chance now
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 10:32 AM ET

- Bean_Dip


Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:42 AM ET
Not these days, unless necrophilia is your thing.
- MidnightMarauder

Dead girls don't say no.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
The way he's played so far this year, not much. There's a silver lining.
- dashripdot

Sent you a PM yesterday.
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
Dead girls don't say no.
- Fenrir


Have we heard from xcheck since yesterday
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:46 AM ET
I'm all for keeping Yandle, but do you think he would take a pay cut to stay? He knows there is a possible window to win. I am not above trading Kreider and Skjei to make cap room, and buying out Staal. Assuming Gorton doesn't resign Boyle.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 11 @ 10:49 AM ET
I'm all for keeping Yandle, but do you think he would take a pay cut to stay? He knows there is a possible window to win. I am not above trading Kreider and Skjei to make cap room, and buying out Staal. Assuming Gorton doesn't resign Boyle.
- Fenrir


if Yandle would take a salary in line with the other defensemen on this team, it would work.

If he wants Letang or Big Buff money, which he probably could get on the open market, then forget it

There are people who believe that Yandle is angry at the Rangers over his "misuse"

so, a lot depends if you believe that is fact or fantasy
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 10:49 AM ET
I'm all for keeping Yandle, but do you think he would take a pay cut to stay? He knows there is a possible window to win. I am not above trading Kreider and Skjei to make cap room, and buying out Staal. Assuming Gorton doesn't resign Boyle.
- Fenrir

i dont think there is such thing as a pay cut anymore. there is fair value vs. free market value.

i cant expect someone to take less to want to be here either. I sure hope he does ala zucc and brass, those weren't necessarily pay-cuts but more of a fair price to stay.

boyle is finished after this year he basically said so b4 ottawa smoked them a few weeks ago.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:49 AM ET
Someone agrees with me...
http://newyork.cbslocal.c...rk-rangers-sean-hartnett/

- mdw7413

“Unlike Chris Kreider, he’s not just a one-trick pony,” defenseman Keith Yandle said.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:52 AM ET
i dont think there is such thing as a pay cut anymore. there is fair value vs. free market value.

i cant expect someone to take less to want to be here either. I sure hope he does ala zucc and brass, those weren't necessarily pay-cuts but more of a fair price to stay.

boyle is finished after this year he basically said so b4 ottawa smoked them a few weeks ago.

- NYRangers1124

Too bad Hank didn't take the fair value road. Missed that Boyle quote. I figured he was done, but you just never know.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 11 @ 10:54 AM ET
i dont think there is such thing as a pay cut anymore. there is fair value vs. free market value.

i cant expect someone to take less to want to be here either. I sure hope he does ala zucc and brass, those weren't necessarily pay-cuts but more of a fair price to stay.

boyle is finished after this year he basically said so b4 ottawa smoked them a few weeks ago.

- NYRangers1124


with escrow on salaries of 18%, its hard to imagine any player taking less money than they can get
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 11:10 AM ET
with escrow on salaries of 18%, its hard to imagine any player taking less money than they can get
- jimbro83

regardless of where escrow is i was never in the boat of "oh youre here already, its NYC, take less money to stay"

in any sport, and life even i would never expect someone to take less money to stay in one place.

i hope they can give him something fair, if they hang on to him at the very earliest time in the negotiation. if we hang on to him and dont sign him boston is going to throw the bank at him and he probably takes it to go back to MA.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Feb 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
Keep scrolling, Jan posted it.
- mdw7413

https://t.co/xuKnwgQdwz
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
regardless of where escrow is i was never in the boat of "oh youre here already, its NYC, take less money to stay"

in any sport, and life even i would never expect someone to take less money to stay in one place.

i hope they can give him something fair, if they hang on to him at the very earliest time in the negotiation. if we hang on to him and dont sign him boston is going to throw the bank at him and he probably takes it to go back to MA.

- NYRangers1124

At the end of the day it all comes down to the fact that hockey is a business. The lure of taking less money is to help build a competitive team (Zucc, Brass) while still receiving a fair salary. Sure you might get more in Edmonton, but would you go just for the money? It also depends on whether he really wants to play for Boston. I think he does.
Funny how the blog was all for trading Yandle the other day, now its all about how to keep him.
Fickle fans.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 11:27 AM ET
At the end of the day it all comes down to the fact that hockey is a business. The lure of taking less money is to help build a competitive team (Zucc, Brass) while still receiving a fair salary. Sure you might get more in Edmonton, but would you go just for the money? It also depends on whether he really wants to play for Boston. I think he does.
Funny how the blog was all for trading Yandle the other day, now its all about how to keep him.
Fickle fans.

- Fenrir

it's going to be like that until the 29th.

he plays well, like he has been since Mac has been out we'll all want to keep him bc he makes the team better.

then he'll make a bonehead play like the blind pass against NJ and we'll want him gone.

while he may not set the world on fire here like he did in phoenix, and he may be up and down as milbury so eloquently put it last night i do think he makes this team better. if they do move him they need to get a sizeable return that can help for this years run.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
it's going to be like that until the 29th.

he plays well, like he has been since Mac has been out we'll all want to keep him bc he makes the team better.

then he'll make a bonehead play like the blind pass against NJ and we'll want him gone.

while he may not set the world on fire here like he did in phoenix, and he may be up and down as milbury so eloquently put it last night i do think he makes this team better. if they do move him they need to get a sizeable return that can help for this years run.

- NYRangers1124

If we were out of the hunt, you certainly have to move him. I'm all for keeping him and taking the chance of losing him in FA. I don't buy the notion that we lose on the Duclair trade if we don't re-sign or get something back at the deadline. If you're going for it, he certainly helps give the team a chance to win.
If only he would stop those horrible giveaways.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Feb 11 @ 11:41 AM ET
it's going to be like that until the 29th.

he plays well, like he has been since Mac has been out we'll all want to keep him bc he makes the team better.

then he'll make a bonehead play like the blind pass against NJ and we'll want him gone.

while he may not set the world on fire here like he did in phoenix, and he may be up and down as milbury so eloquently put it last night i do think he makes this team better. if they do move him they need to get a sizeable return that can help for this years run.

- NYRangers1124

Don't look now, but his numbers are right in line with how he was producing in Arizona...
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
Don't look now, but his numbers are right in line with how he was producing in Arizona...
- Bean_Dip

somewhat yeah, he had the couple 50+ years, 10-20 for 30 in the lockout. he's getting far less minutes now so his production is steady.

i remember more of the coast to coast, bombing shots coming in leading the rush type of this. obv av/ulf's system doesnt ask him to do that.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 11 @ 12:01 PM ET
somewhat yeah, he had the couple 50+ years, 10-20 for 30 in the lockout. he's getting far less minutes now so his production is steady.

i remember more of the coast to coast, bombing shots coming in leading the rush type of this. obv av/ulf's system doesnt ask him to do that.

- NYRangers1124

Boyle said his biggest challenge when coming over to NY was that in SJ he was used to carrying to pick himself up the ice and making a play but here the system requires him to fire the puck up ice as quickly as possible. So yea, no coast to coast rushes for either of these guys.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 11 @ 12:03 PM ET
Bob McKenzie Verified account
‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Ehrhoff (LAK) clears waivers.
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Feb 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
Bob McKenzie Verified account
‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Ehrhoff (LAK) clears waivers.

- jimbro83

I'm very shocked by this and a little upset that the Rangers didn't put a claim in for him it wasn't bad but I guess McDonagh is it as bad as we think
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
Bob McKenzie Verified account
‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Ehrhoff (LAK) clears waivers.

- jimbro83

good sign mac is doing well?

or are they content with how the D has played during this stretch?

both? probably a bit of both.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 11 @ 12:05 PM ET
good sign mac is doing well?

or are they content with how the D has played during this stretch?

both? probably a bit of both.

- NYRangers1124


and maybe Ehrhoff is just done and everyone knows it
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 12:06 PM ET
and maybe Ehrhoff is just done and everyone knows it
- jimbro83

ur big on twitter like i am, and i know its par for the course but the reaction to mckenzie's tweet makes u think he's bobby orr slipping through waivers lol

he's finished
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