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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:18 PM ET
I suggested a different direction last season....a different coach that knows what the F&CK theyre doing on D.

But some wont be onboard since it shuts down their daily online trade idea fun

- SMBDragon

We are in seventh from the bottom we can try different personnel, we can't fall much more.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 8 @ 11:20 PM ET
As a poster said earlie if you trade Edler for a first round pick and a prospect plus Edlers replacement even if it is just Hamhuis, is better than Edler
- VANTEL



Id imagine Edler getting similar to what Coburn brought in. A first, 3rd and Gudas (Solid trade for flyers)
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:20 PM ET
As a poster said earlie if you trade Edler for a first round pick and a prospect plus Edlers replacement even if it is just Hamhuis, is better than Edler
- VANTEL

perhaps it will be...its hard to say so far.

its amazing that with a depleted D core you got guys on here trading away everything we have left. Thank god they dont run the team. Essentially they want nothing left.

Those same guys whine when the trade comes that it was a mistake and whine about the return.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:22 PM ET
perhaps it will be...its hard to say so far.

its amazing that with a depleted D core you got guys on here trading away everything we have left. Thank god they dont run the team. Essentially they want nothing left.

Those same guys whine when the trade comes that it was a mistake and whine about the return.

- SMBDragon



Being the best of a bad bunch of apples doesn't make you delicious
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 8 @ 11:23 PM ET
Being the best of a bad bunch of apples doesn't make you delicious
- VANTEL


SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:29 PM ET
We are in seventh from the bottom we can try different personnel, we can't fall much more.
- VANTEL


edler is closest we have to #1. Perhaps moving him isnt the best idea....unless the return is crazy good and effectively replaces him. Big shoes to fill though

Or we can just get a better D coach and get everyone performing better then reassess lineup needs
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:33 PM ET
Being the best of a bad bunch of apples doesn't make you delicious
- VANTEL

ha ha nice

so you think the entire D is just all poopty players that just suck?

Or maybe this is stemming from the top down, with no plan on D....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:35 PM ET
edler is closest we have to #1. Perhaps moving him isnt the best idea....unless the return is crazy good and effectively replaces him. Big shoes to fill though

Or we can just get a better D coach and get everyone performing better then reassess lineup needs

- SMBDragon

Everyone is entitled to their choice.

I see you think he is close to a number one I see him as a number three. He makes way too many mistakes . He doesn't stand up for teammates. His production has fallen off.

When you are ready to come to the conclusion to move him you will realize you waited too long just like Bieksa Vrbata Higgins Burrows.

He has a high trade value right now and we are rebuilding . My choice is to move him and get close to the same skill level with Hamhuis stepping in temporarily
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:36 PM ET
ha ha nice

so you think the entire D is just all poopty players that just suck?

Or maybe this is stemming from the top down, with no plan on D....

- SMBDragon



Tanev is decent , Hutton will be decent. The rest should be replaced in the next 3 years
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:42 PM ET
Everyone is entitled to their choice.

I see you think he is close to a number one I see him as a number three. He makes way too many mistakes . He doesn't stand up for teammates. His production has fallen off.

When you are ready to come to the conclusion to move him you will realize you waited too long just like Bieksa Vrbata Higgins Burrows.

He has a high trade value right now and we are rebuilding . My choice is to move him and get close to the same skill level with Hamhuis stepping in temporarily

- VANTEL


No I actually said earlier that I think edler would be better in the 2nd pairing. So we are eye to eye on that #3. What my other post was saying was that he is the CLOSEST thing We have to a #1.

If its the right deal then do it. But it must actually improve the team
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:44 PM ET
No I actually said earlier that I think edler would be better in the 2nd pairing. So we are eye to eye on that #3. What my other post was saying was that he is the CLOSEST thing We have to a #1.

If its the right deal then do it. But it must actually improve the team

- SMBDragon

He is a three but I wouldn't have him on my team. If he stays so be it, but there are a lot of fans here that don't like him , his attitude or his style
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:50 PM ET
Tanev is decent , Hutton will be decent. The rest should be replaced in the next 3 years
- VANTEL

We both like pedan and hope tree can be what he is billed to be. Im hoping those guys will be a major upgrade in a season or 2.

Im onboard with moving tanev before edler. Biega can essentially replace tanev....perhaps not in minutes yet but in reliable play. No he's not a #2 but tanev wasnt either really.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:51 PM ET
He is a three but I wouldn't have him on my team. If he stays so be it, but there are a lot of fans here that don't like him , his attitude or his style
- VANTEL

ya thundachunk was commenting on edlers cursing at players on the ice. Concerning
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:54 PM ET
We both like pedan and hope tree can be what he is billed to be. Im hoping those guys will be a major upgrade in a season or 2.

Im onboard with moving tanev before edler. Biega can essentially replace tanev....perhaps not in minutes yet but in reliable play. No he's not a #2 but tanev wasnt either really.

- SMBDragon

You will receive flack for replace Tanev with Biega.

The two Russians will be better than Bartowski Weber but that is not necessarily going to be a big impact. The draft will be huge this year.
CamoToe
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.08.2016

Feb 9 @ 12:04 AM ET
Demko with his 9th shutout of the season. BC record.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 9 @ 12:08 AM ET
You will receive flack for replace Tanev with Biega.

The two Russians will be better than Bartowski Weber but that is not necessarily going to be a big impact. The draft will be huge this year.

- VANTEL


I guess to nutshell the whole edler thing, Id say fill in the weaker D with better before taking away our #1. The D is already depleted.

Id say pedan has his limits potential wise but tree has great potential to be that #1. We shall see what happens IF and when he comes over and plays awhile.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 9 @ 12:10 AM ET
I guess to nutshell the whole edler thing, Id say fill in the weaker D with better before taking away our #1. The D is already depleted.

Id say pedan has his limits potential wise but tree has great potential to be that #1. We shall see what happens IF and when he comes over and plays awhile.

- SMBDragon

My opinion is the Canucks can take a big bite this year to get better. Draft a D . See what Tree can do and make a substantial trade .
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 9 @ 12:14 AM ET
My opinion is the Canucks can take a big bite this year to get better. Draft a D . See what Tree can do and make a substantial trade .
- VANTEL


Yes.

wonder what Vatanen would require. we could use his offense.
a 2nd?
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 9 @ 12:17 AM ET
My opinion is the Canucks can take a big bite this year to get better. Draft a D . See what Tree can do and make a substantial trade .
- VANTEL


At this stage Im of the opinion clean house behind the bench. WD is also stinking it up.
Make better choices hiring coaches this time around.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Feb 9 @ 12:24 AM ET
Trouba seems to be expendable in the Peg with the signing of Buff.

Maybe now's the time to use a bit of our Offensive prospect depth. Maybe Tanev + Shink for Trouba? Or maybe they want some players with a bit more experience.... Tanev + Hansen? Both have a history in Winnipeg and signed for a couple of more years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 9 @ 12:26 AM ET
Trouba seems to be expendable in the Peg with the signing of Buff.

Maybe now's the time to use a bit of our Offensive prospect depth. Maybe Tanev + Shink for Trouba? Or maybe they want some players with a bit more experience.... Tanev + Hansen? Both have a history in Winnipeg and signed for a couple of more years.

- Mungo



That's something to think about
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 9 @ 12:40 AM ET
Demko with his 9th shutout of the season. BC record.
- CamoToe

Hes a bum Literally think this guy could be a top 5 goalie in the league one day really hoping hes in Utica next season.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 9 @ 12:41 AM ET
Trouba seems to be expendable in the Peg with the signing of Buff.

Maybe now's the time to use a bit of our Offensive prospect depth. Maybe Tanev + Shink for Trouba? Or maybe they want some players with a bit more experience.... Tanev + Hansen? Both have a history in Winnipeg and signed for a couple of more years.

- Mungo


I wonder if Winnipeg would want to trade Myers before Trouba, either way id hope we offer something
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 9 @ 12:41 AM ET
Trouba seems to be expendable in the Peg with the signing of Buff.

Maybe now's the time to use a bit of our Offensive prospect depth. Maybe Tanev + Shink for Trouba? Or maybe they want some players with a bit more experience.... Tanev + Hansen? Both have a history in Winnipeg and signed for a couple of more years.

- Mungo

if trouba wants the money the rumors are talking about no way i make that trade.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 9 @ 12:42 AM ET
I wonder if Winnipeg would want to trade Myers before Trouba, either way id hope we offer something
- phyllee

Anahiem, Philly and Carolina have much better options for Dmen than winnipeg, I think there defense is overrated.
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