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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
Not gunna lie i wouldnt mind trading Edler at the draft and then signing Yandle in free agency
- phyllee


You need a better replacement
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
You need a better replacement
- VANTEL


Id say Yandle is better then Edler, not but much but still is, and if we can get a pick and prospect for Edler and Yandle for only cap space itd be so worth it
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM ET
Not gunna lie i wouldnt mind trading Edler at the draft and then signing Yandle in free agency
- phyllee


I could get with that, I'd even buy a Yandle retro skate jersey.

I don't think Yandle is better than Edler, but I think Yandle + 1st + prospect is better than Edler.

Overpay Yandle on 2-3 year deal and ditch him at deadline when his contract is up for another pick. Asset management.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
Canucks need to find his replacement . The sooner the better.
- VANTEL


Problem is I don't think you can draft a replacement for Edler. He's a good Dman I'm not saying he's not a good player so it would be interesting what you could get from a trade.

I think you need to find a better option by trade or bid hard for a true #1 during FA. And yes it's going to cost the canucks more than $5m to find consistency, skill, and experience but it would be so nice to have that true team quarterback running the show back there.

Let me put it this way, I would rather pay $2.8m more for a Shea Weber than save the salary on an Edler.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM ET
Id say Yandle is better then Edler, not but much but still is, and if we can get a pick and prospect for Edler and Yandle for only cap space itd be so worth it
- phyllee

He is not better.

I hate to admit Scooby having a great idea. , but this is probably best case scenario.

Trade Hamhuis at TDL for a first and a pick. Bring him back in the offseason for something like 3x3 .

Trade Edler at the draft. Three first round picks would be excellent.
Draft Juolevi. If you could pick up a second pairing RHD

You can have a stop gap D . Draft high again , and maybe hope for a trade.

Hamhuis Tanev
Tryamkin Polak
Juolevi Hutton

Biega Pedan.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM ET
He is not better.

I hate to admit Scooby having a great idea. , but this is probably best case scenario.

Trade Hamhuis at TDL for a first and a pick. Bring him back in the offseason for something like 3x3 .

Trade Edler at the draft. Three first round picks would be excellent.
Draft Juolevi. If you could pick up a second pairing RHD

You can have a stop gap D . Draft high again , and maybe hope for a trade.

Hamhuis Tanev
Tryamkin Polak
Juolevi Hutton


Biega Pedan.

- VANTEL


i like where you are going with this...i really do...but that top 4 will get you about 3 goals all year....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM ET
I could get with that, I'd even buy a Yandle retro skate jersey.

I don't think Yandle is better than Edler, but I think Yandle + 1st + prospect is better than Edler.

Overpay Yandle on 2-3 year deal and ditch him at deadline when his contract is up for another pick. Asset management.

- Max.Betts



Yes it is the first and the prospect you get along with the replacement that would be better than Edler.

Spot on
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM ET
Bob Mac has us drafting Juolevi at 7 th.
- VANTEL


Good thing we won't be drafting 7th.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM ET
He is not better.

I hate to admit Scooby having a great idea. , but this is probably best case scenario.

Trade Hamhuis at TDL for a first and a pick. Bring him back in the offseason for something like 3x3 .

Trade Edler at the draft. Three first round picks would be excellent.
Draft Juolevi. If you could pick up a second pairing RHD

You can have a stop gap D . Draft high again , and maybe hope for a trade.

Hamhuis Tanev
Tryamkin Polak
Juolevi Hutton

Biega Pedan.

- VANTEL


Yeah thats not a bad idea either, Fabbro is rated between 12-20 im hoping we can get a first in that area and draft him
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM ET
I think many will be shocked how bad we look without him though. kinda like how much the loss of salo STILL hurts us.
- SMBDragon


Or maybe the shock wave will be something similar to what was felt when Bieksa left?

I look at Edler's +/- over the years and I'm not so sure his contributions would be a crushing loss to the defensive scheme.

07-08 6
08-09 11
09-10 0
10-11 13
11-12 0
12-13 -5
13-14 -39
14-15 13
15-16 -8

My Kingdom for a #1 with consistency!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM ET
i like where you are going with this...i really do...but that top 4 will get you about 3 goals all year....
- dbot

Yup stop gap. We have three picks from 2015 that are putting up nice numbers in Jr.

Two year fix
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM ET
He is not better.

I hate to admit Scooby having a great idea. , but this is probably best case scenario.

Trade Hamhuis at TDL for a first and a pick. Bring him back in the offseason for something like 3x3 .

Trade Edler at the draft. Three first round picks would be excellent.
Draft Juolevi. If you could pick up a second pairing RHD

You can have a stop gap D . Draft high again , and maybe hope for a trade.

Hamhuis Tanev
Tryamkin Polak
Juolevi Hutton

Biega Pedan.

- VANTEL



A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
He is not better.

I hate to admit Scooby having a great idea. , but this is probably best case scenario.

Trade Hamhuis at TDL for a first and a pick. Bring him back in the offseason for something like 3x3 .

Trade Edler at the draft. Three first round picks would be excellent.
Draft Juolevi. If you could pick up a second pairing RHD

You can have a stop gap D . Draft high again , and maybe hope for a trade.

Hamhuis Tanev
Tryamkin Polak
Juolevi Hutton

Biega Pedan.

- VANTEL

If I was where you are I would give you a hug, and don't change that you bumholes.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 9:09 PM ET
If I was where you are I would give you a hug, and don't change that you bumholes.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Scoobys hug
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 8 @ 9:10 PM ET
Scoobys hug
- VANTEL

I don't want fleas
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Feb 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
Hansen doesn't have a NTC
- VANTEL

And his wife he met in Winnipeg ...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM ET
I don't want fleas
- A_SteamingLombardi

Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Feb 8 @ 9:19 PM ET
Bob Mac has us drafting Juolevi at 7 th.
- VANTEL

I like joulevi a lot ....but I think I'd take Segacheyv first. He plays a pro game ....carries a lot of confidence.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Feb 8 @ 9:21 PM ET
I could get with that, I'd even buy a Yandle retro skate jersey.

I don't think Yandle is better than Edler, but I think Yandle + 1st + prospect is better than Edler.

Overpay Yandle on 2-3 year deal and ditch him at deadline when his contract is up for another pick. Asset management.

- Max.Betts

Not bad logic.....you guys are coming around nicely
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 9:21 PM ET
I like joulevi a lot ....but I think I'd take Segacheyv first. He plays a pro game ....carries a lot of confidence.
- Bullfrog77

Surprisingly the had him around 14 th but said he could easily slip into 10 .
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 8 @ 9:21 PM ET
You just took the fun out of my fun fact...

D Keith is #20 on the NHL Salary List for defenseman. Seabrook is #13. Only one Dman making $9m, no Dman making $8m, and six making $7m plus.

The only outliers are the overly paid defenseman on the canucks.

- bloatedmosquito


You sure? I thought Subban and Suter were both making around 8 or 9 too. What's Doughty making?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 8 @ 9:23 PM ET
Not bad logic.....you guys are coming around nicely
- Bullfrog77


Logic, oh jeremiah you kill me
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 9:23 PM ET
You sure? I thought Subban and Suter were both making around 8 or 9 too. What's Doughty making?
- neem55


AAV vs yearly breakdown might be causing some discrepancy.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Feb 8 @ 9:24 PM ET
Problem is I don't think you can draft a replacement for Edler. He's a good Dman I'm not saying he's not a good player so it would be interesting what you could get from a trade.

I think you need to find a better option by trade or bid hard for a true #1 during FA. And yes it's going to cost the canucks more than $5m to find consistency, skill, and experience but it would be so nice to have that true team quarterback running the show back there.

Let me put it this way, I would rather pay $2.8m more for a Shea Weber than save the salary on an Edler.

- bloatedmosquito

What's the last number one defenceman that made it to free agency? Never happens anymore. There is a league wide shortage on differance making defenceman. We will not get one in free agency. It's draft or trade. And if we trade it's a massive overpayment. No thanks...I'd rather draft my own.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 8 @ 9:25 PM ET
Surprisingly the had him around 14 th but said he could easily slip into 10 .
- VANTEL


Bob essentially says Juolevi/Chychrun are the best two but nothing is set. I Still think Chychrun still has the overall skillset that is much better, but maybe he doesn't have the mental side for the big stage, time will tell.
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