Bob Mac has us drafting Juolevi at 7 th.

You sir, might be 100% right. But here's the thing, that NTC. I totally understand asking Hamhuis to waive it, but do you really think Hansen wants to go somewhere else?

http://blogs.vancouversun...t-deal-for-the-good-dane/
- Max.Betts

I can't say he wants to move anymore than I can say he wants to stay.

But i don't see why not.

Trade him to another team where he might get a chance to go far in the playoffs, or where he'll get an increased role.

Doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility.

Fla?

Hansen doesn't have a NTC
- VANTEL

Yeah he does

Bob Mac has us drafting Juolevi at 7 th.
- VANTEL

Really wow, I'll take that

Yeah he does
- A_SteamingLombardi

Limited NTC according to the Sun.

Yeah he does
- A_SteamingLombardi

(frank)en a Gillis

Duncan Kieth has the most team friendly contract in the league, it is what is called an outlier my man. AAV of top4 dman I'd wager is a 4-6 mil, top 2 6-9
- neem55

You just took the fun out of my fun fact...

D Keith is #20 on the NHL Salary List for defenseman. Seabrook is #13. Only one Dman making $9m, no Dman making $8m, and six making $7m plus.

The only outliers are the overly paid defenseman on the canucks.

Bob Mac has us drafting Juolevi at 7 th.
- VANTEL

A competitive spark-plug, Olli Juolevi is a complete, all-around defenceman that can hem the opposition in their own end or make things difficult for the opposition at home; either way, he puts the pressure on and lays it on thick. A strong and balanced skater, he can rush the puck through the neutral zone with ease or backcheck with haste. Uses his size to his advantage, but knows his physical limits and plays within them. Instead of playing overly physical, he makes his presence felt by exhibiting his high-end playmaking ability and puck possession play. All-in-all, a well-rounded blueliner who thrives under pressure and can be trusted in all situations. (Curtis Joe, EP 2016) - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects...6391#sthash.zP3zC6by.dpuf

You just took the fun out of my fun fact...

D Keith is #20 on the NHL Salary List for defenseman. Seabrook is #13. Only one Dman making $9m, no Dman making $8m, and six making $7m plus.

The only outliers are the overly paid defenseman on the canucks.
- bloatedmosquito

Sbisa

You just took the fun out of my fun fact...

D Keith is #20 on the NHL Salary List for defenseman. Seabrook is #13. Only one Dman making $9m, no Dman making $8m, and six making $7m plus.

The only outliers are the overly paid defenseman on the canucks.
- bloatedmosquito

Edler is listed as #36 for Dmen...which actually isn't terrible and kinda where i would place him in ranking (as in not a top 30/true #1 D, but in the second tier).

Bob Mac has us drafting Juolevi at 7 th.
- VANTEL

I hope not...this draft is loaded with potential first line forwards. I'd be happy with Matthews, The Finns, Tkachuck, McLeod or even Nylander. He is quite a bit bigger than his smurf brother. We can grab a D with our second 1st rounder (Hamhuis trade) and our high 2nd round pick

I hope not...this draft is loaded with potential first line forwards. I'd be happy with Matthews, The Finns, Tkachuck, McLeod or even Nylander. He is quite a bit bigger than his smurf brother. We can grab a D with our second 1st rounder (Hamhuis trade) and our high 2nd round pick
- CanuckDon

They were just on TSN he is 2 inches taller

I hope not...this draft is loaded with potential first line forwards. I'd be happy with Matthews, The Finns, Tkachuck, McLeod or even Nylander. He is quite a bit bigger than his smurf brother. We can grab a D with our second 1st rounder (Hamhuis trade) and our high 2nd round pick
- CanuckDon

If we draft #7, i imagine Mathews, TwinFinns, Tkachuck and Nylander are gone.
Along with Chychurn.

Edler is listed as #36 for Dmen...which actually isn't terrible and kinda where i would place him in ranking (as in not a top 30/true #1 D, but in the second tier).
- dbot

There's only $500,000 separating #20 to #36 so I wasn't arguing player positioning.

My point to Neem was his wager on average salary for NHL Dman was a bit off with $6m - $9m for top two. I don't think you can have an average with a high end of $9m when only one player in the league is making $8m+. The average for top two is probably like $5.5m - $6.5m.

I know Edler is top two on the canucks and he definitely plays the hard minutes of a top two. But I've always criticized Edler for his lack of consistency and that for me has booted him out of that elite top two Dman category. Bieksa plays a top two role on Anaheim but I don't consider him a legit top pairing.

There's only $500,000 separating #20 to #36 so I wasn't arguing player positioning.

My point to Neem was his wager on average salary for NHL Dman was a bit off with $6m - $9m for top two. I don't think you can have an average with a high end of $9m when only one player in the league is making $8m+. The average for top two is probably like $5.5m - $6.5m.

I know Edler is top two on the canucks and he definitely plays the hard minutes of a top two. But I've always criticized Edler for his lack of consistency and that for me has booted him out of that elite top two Dman category. Bieksa plays a top two role on Anaheim but I don't consider him a legit top pairing.
- bloatedmosquito

I know, i wasn't arguing with you.
I think the comment of top 2 dman salary is more intended to be what they would get on the free market today (ie what they're worth) more than what they are making today based on salaries signed in the past.

I feel the same way about Edler as you listed above...

I know, i wasn't arguing with you.
I think the comment of top 2 dman salary is more intended to be what they would get on the free market today (ie what they're worth) more than what they are making today based on salaries signed in the past.

I feel the same way about Edler as you listed above...
- dbot

I think 90 % here feel that way

And it's writing stuff like that that gets Aquilini knocking on Benning's door saying we got to make the playoffs.
- bazz

that along with empty seats and wondering where all the profit went...

I think 90 % here feel that way
- VANTEL

except that dude that thinks Edler is worse that Weber and should be waived.

I know, i wasn't arguing with you.
I think the comment of top 2 dman salary is more intended to be what they would get on the free market today (ie what they're worth) more than what they are making today based on salaries signed in the past.

I feel the same way about Edler as you listed above...
- dbot

Understood.

When I wrote that outliers line I was ready to get blasted. I know the topic of overpaid canuck defenseman was Nuckers thing and it caused a bit of a rift on this page so wasn't sure how it would be taken.

TBH I'm tired of waiting for Edler to be what I thought he was going to be. I think he makes big money in comparison to others and I think there's a better deal out there. So if the return is more than fair I say trade him too.

except that dude that thinks Edler is worse that Weber and should be waived.

- dbot

Oh heavens....dont bring him up. Please lol

Understood.

When I wrote that outliers line I was ready to get blasted. I know the topic of overpaid canuck defenseman was Nuckers thing and it caused a bit of a rift on this page so wasn't sure how it would be taken.

TBH I'm tired of waiting for Edler to be what I thought he was going to be. I think he makes big money in comparison to others and I think there's a better deal out there. So if the return is more than fair I say trade him too.
- bloatedmosquito

I think many will be shocked how bad we look without him though. kinda like how much the loss of salo STILL hurts us.

Understood.

When I wrote that outliers line I was ready to get blasted. I know the topic of overpaid canuck defenseman was Nuckers thing and it caused a bit of a rift on this page so wasn't sure how it would be taken.

TBH I'm tired of waiting for Edler to be what I thought he was going to be. I think he makes big money in comparison to others and I think there's a better deal out there. So if the return is more than fair I say trade him too.
- bloatedmosquito

Not gunna lie i wouldnt mind trading Edler at the draft and then signing Yandle in free agency

Bob Mac has us drafting Juolevi at 7 th.
- VANTEL

Understood.

When I wrote that outliers line I was ready to get blasted. I know the topic of overpaid canuck defenseman was Nuckers thing and it caused a bit of a rift on this page so wasn't sure how it would be taken.

TBH I'm tired of waiting for Edler to be what I thought he was going to be. I think he makes big money in comparison to others and I think there's a better deal out there. So if the return is more than fair I say trade him too.
- bloatedmosquito

Canucks need to find his replacement . The sooner the better.

I think many will be shocked how bad we look without him though. kinda like how much the loss of salo STILL hurts us.
- SMBDragon

You mean we would be worst than bottom 7 ? I don't get the part where the team isn't willing to try different options .