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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 8 @ 11:51 AM ET
Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

I have complained about Hak's lineup decisions quite a bit, but we will really never know for sure what input Hextall is having and how much blame/credit he should be getting. The coach sets the lines, sure. But the coach also talks to the GM every day. And when Hexy called up Cousins, there was no chance it was just so he could sit in the stands.

- Feanor


I feel like there have been promises made and agreements made about certain players. Like playing Manning a bunch in the beginning of the year and Giving Cousins a shot. I think they're viewing this season as a chance to experiment a lot.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 11:51 AM ET
The team is going to look vastly different next season. Unless something dramatic happens such as injury or poor performance in training camp, Provorov and Konency will be on the roster. Provorov is a pt/game dman and now a +39, I'm not sure what he needs to learn at the junior level. Hakstol could shelter his minutes to start the season and hopefully see him increase responsibilities throughout the year. The same goes for Konency.

This is a transition year, if they make the playoffs is a bonus. At least Coots and B. Schenn tooks steps forward. I would be surprised if B. Schenn wasn't signed to a bridge contract.

- ravishingone


I think the only way to get Schenn on a short term deal will be to go thru arbitration like the Caps did last summer with Marcus Johansson. At 25 years old with the production he has had, he will be looking for something with more security, and another two year bridge deal would make him a free agent in 2018. Which is not good the Flyers.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
The team is going to look vastly different next season.
- ravishingone


I don't think this team will start to look that much different until 2018.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 8 @ 11:55 AM ET
I think the only way to get Schenn on a short term deal will be to go thru arbitration like the Caps did last summer with Marcus Johansson. At 25 years old with the production he has had, he will be looking for something with more security, and another two year bridge deal would make him a free agent in 2018. Which is not good the Flyers.
- Feanor



I think if they decide to resign him it's probably something closer to what Couturier got. Maybe a little less money. But probably a 5 year deal.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don't think this team will start to look that much different until 2018.
- Tomahawk


I don't think Hexy is big on massive roster turnover. He could have really gutted the team at last year's deadline, but decided against it. I think he's all about gradual change and really values stability. As much as I want things to happen quicker, I understand and agree with him.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:07 PM ET
I don't think Hexy is big on massive roster turnover. He could have really gutted the team at last year's deadline, but decided against it. I think he's all about gradual change and really values stability. As much as I want things to happen quicker, I understand and agree with him.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm def willing to be patient, given the results that have trickled in thus far.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:11 PM ET
That the 5 guys on the ice thought it was cool to let Niskanen dance down the middle of the ice, untouched, is far more concerning to me than Mason not coming up with that save.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 8 @ 12:11 PM ET
I think the only way to get Schenn on a short term deal will be to go thru arbitration like the Caps did last summer with Marcus Johansson. At 25 years old with the production he has had, he will be looking for something with more security, and another two year bridge deal would make him a free agent in 2018. Which is not good the Flyers.
- Feanor


The organization seemed content to sign shorter deals with Voracek until the big extension. I would be pleasantly surprised if they could get Schenn signed to an extension similar to Coots or Simmonds. It depends if Schenn and his agent are willing to bet on his performance improving to a 30 goal scorer level in the next two seasons.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:12 PM ET
Guys, what's with all of the objective, non-poster based hockey talk today?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:12 PM ET
That the 5 guys on the ice thought it was cool to let Niskanen dance down the middle of the ice, untouched, is far more concerning to me than Mason not coming up with that save.
- johndewar


Connor McNiskanen
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
I don't think Hexy is big on massive roster turnover. He could have really gutted the team at last year's deadline, but decided against it. I think he's all about gradual change and really values stability. As much as I want things to happen quicker, I understand and agree with him.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah, he's also highly resistant to rushing kids in, so I'm not sure Ivan/Konecny are virtual locks to make the team or anything.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
I don't think Hexy is big on massive roster turnover. He could have really gutted the team at last year's deadline, but decided against it. I think he's all about gradual change and really values stability. As much as I want things to happen quicker, I understand and agree with him.
- PhillySportsGuy


It's hard to build a team by gutting it. Slow and steady wins the race. Or in this case, hopefully the stanley cup.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 12:14 PM ET
Guys, what's with all of the objective, non-poster based hockey talk today?
- funmaster18

Everyone's so sad over the loss of hockeystreams.com that they can't muster up enough internal fire to attack each other.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:16 PM ET
Everyone's so sad over the loss of hockeystreams.com that they can't muster up enough internal fire to attack each other.
- mayorofangrytown


I'm glad I never got sucked in. I have enough to be disappointed about already
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Yeah, he's also highly resistant to rushing kids in, so I'm not sure Ivan/Konecny are virtual locks to make the team or anything.
- Tomahawk


It would definitely be against type for what Hextall has professed so far.

And I don't think either guy will be AHL eligible at the start of next season.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
Yeah, he's also highly resistant to rushing kids in, so I'm not sure Ivan/Konecny are virtual locks to make the team or anything.
- Tomahawk


With many teams thinking Provorov could have jumped in this year, maybe next year is Hextall's version of not rushing him. It's a player to player thing. So far, there haven't been any guys that I thought should have been on the big team hands down and weren't. Have to see how they play next year in camp. If these guys are ready, Hextall will bring them up. If they are borderline, he won't.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
I'm glad I never got sucked in. I have enough to be disappointed about already
- funmaster18

I'd pay if they could just put out an affordable way to watch CHL and AHL games.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
Pietrangelo headed to IR with reevaluation 3 weeks. Give st Louis a call Hexy
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Rangers coach rips the league for not suspending simmonds, asking "wonder what would happen if it was crosby"

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/955358
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
AV should let this go. Guys throw punches like that all the time. If Simmonds doesn't catch him square in the jaw, I think the whole thing is nothing more than a minor incident. Funny that he doesn't address his captain's cross check to Simmonds' head, which led to the punch.

Both guys (frank)ed up and unfortunately one was injured.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
With many teams thinking Provorov could have jumped in this year, maybe next year is Hextall's version of not rushing him. It's a player to player thing. So far, there haven't been any guys that I thought should have been on the big team hands down and weren't. Have to see how they play next year in camp. If these guys are ready, Hextall will bring them up. If they are borderline, he won't.
- funmaster18


I believe the long-term direction under the Hexy regime is build from within. Not saying he won't pull the trigger on a major trade like Lombardi. However, realistically teams normally only find #1 dmen and centers, and goalies through the draft. There are certainly exceptions to the rule. The other positions on the roster can be filled with the draft, trades, or free agent signings. Without those 3 positions filled, I can't think of a team in recent history who has won the cup. Also, can't think of a situation which at least 2 of those 3 prime positions weren't draft choices of their respective team.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 8 @ 12:41 PM ET
That the 5 guys on the ice thought it was cool to let Niskanen dance down the middle of the ice, untouched, is far more concerning to me than Mason not coming up with that save.
- johndewar

^^
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 8 @ 12:42 PM ET
AV should let this go. Guys throw punches like that all the time. If Simmonds doesn't catch him square in the jaw, I think the whole thing is nothing more than a minor incident. Funny that he doesn't address his captain's cross check to Simmonds' head, which led to the punch.

Both guys (frank)ed up and unfortunately one was injured.

- funmaster18

Debatable. He's a Ranger. All humanity within me is out the window.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
I am here now for a little bit.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 12:45 PM ET
Ek has stated Gagner has played "exceptionally well" ... In all seriousness, has he? I didn't get to catch either of the two weekend games.
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