You can't just throw all the kids in the line up and think it works. Gotta suround them with vetern solid players. Or you become edm for 15-yrs
- Bieksa#3

Yup - you can't just throw a bunch of kids out there and say "have at it", it clearly doesn't work. Without a veteran presence you just end up at the bottom for years on end, 15 years is an exaggeration though.

You can't just throw all the kids in the line up and think it works. Gotta suround them with vetern solid players. Or you become edm for 15-yrs
- Bieksa#3

Veterans are...

a) Getting sent to AHL
b) Getting traded
c) Coming off the books

I am glad we will finally get a year or two of top picks. Get a first for Hamhuis say goodbye to the old vets and this year is a success.
- VANTEL

If it gets him to waive i would offer hammer a trade and sign. but only if is the only way to get him to waive.

http://www.mynhldraft.com...draft/nhl-draft-rankings/

Some good lists here. I hope we get tkachuck. I have no idea which Finn is better. Top 6 are guaranteed to be good players

Veterans are...

a) Getting sent to AHL
b) Getting traded
c) Coming off the books
- VanHockeyGuy

Are u suggesting Higgins and Hamhuis bring the same to the team?

Hamhuis to Washington for 1st + prospect.
Edler to Detroit for 1st + prospect.
Vrbata to Arizona for 2nd.
Tanev to Islanders for Hamonic.

I'm happy resigning Hamhuis so he can play another 3 years here. But we need to trade him and then sign him back in the summer. We need that 1st, and I think he understands that and won't have a problem waiving and then signing back in the summer for 3 years $10m.

Hamhuis Hamonic would be a decent top pairing while we load the shelves.
- Scooby_Doo

I would love to see it happen. Perfect Storm

Yup - you can't just throw a bunch of kids out there and say "have at it", it clearly doesn't work. Without a veteran presence you just end up at the bottom for years on end, 15 years is an exaggeration though.
- LeftCoaster

Edm is on yr 11 and still a ways away

Sbisa's contract is a mistake. If he had Weber money no one would blink. Thankfully it is a short contract

I would love to see it happen. Perfect Storm
- VANTEL

For sure, even if this is only half accurate!

Sbisa's contract is a mistake. If he had Weber money no one would blink. Thankfully it is a short contract
- VANTEL

I wish he was a better fighter.

Edm is on yr 11 and still a ways away
- Bieksa#3

Well, that's still not 15.

You have to forgive him, he's going through menopause. He can be a bit of a drama queen on his 'off' days.

I wish he was a better fighter.
- VanHockeyGuy

That is why Pedan at 1 mil is a better option

Is there room for me?
- Marwood

There's no good seats left. I hate be late to the party.

Well, that's still not 15.

You have to forgive him, he's going through menopause. He can be a bit of a drama queen on his 'off' days.
- Marwood

Hey Old fella.
Big meal planned for SB?

There's no good seats left. I hate be late to the party.
- CubanBuffet

Nucker could have been driving the busy in glory, instead PHucker is rooting for a bubble team

Sbisa's contract is a mistake. If he had Weber money no one would blink. Thankfully it is a short contract
- VANTEL

I like Sbisa. Didn't like him for the first while he was here, but he has grown on me. He hits like a truck. Fights for his mates and is a great skater. The mistakes have went down big time.

Nucker could have been driving the busy in glory, instead PHucker is rooting for a bubble team
- VANTEL

I like Sbisa. Didn't like him for the first while he was here, but he has grown on me. He hits like a truck. Fights for his mates and is a great skater. The mistakes have went down big time.
- Bieksa#3

Yup , he is just paid too much. It won't hurt because of the ELC and the short term , but unless he takes a haircut next contract he won't be long term here.

Yup , he is just paid too much. It won't hurt because of the ELC and the short term , but unless he takes a haircut next contract he won't be long term here.
- VANTEL

Even his contract doesn't bug me. Look what teams pay for grit. He's got it in spades. And he's a 4/5 D man. And look what they get. You still have to look at the market to replace what he brings. Sure Pedan at 1 mill brings the grit but is ideally a #7 currently. If he gets better his contract gets bigger

I like Sbisa. Didn't like him for the first while he was here, but he has grown on me. He hits like a truck. Fights for his mates and is a great skater. The mistakes have went down big time.
- Bieksa#3

Agreed. I wish more people would watch his play instead of listening to the media and Phuckers of the world. He is very physical and has cut his mistakes in half.

Hey Old fella.
Big meal planned for SB?
- Bieksa#3

Gourmet Nachos with shredded brisket and fresh made salsa washed down with a squealer from the Cumberland Brewing Company.

Agreed. I wish more people would watch his play instead of listening to the media and Phuckers of the world. He is very physical and has cut his mistakes in half.
- CanuckDon

He's a guy that advanced numbers don't tell the story. They don't show him defending his mates. Or a hard open ice hit to keep the opponent honest. Since he doesn't get points they just show his turnovers.

Agreed. I wish more people would watch his play instead of listening to the media and Phuckers of the world. He is very physical and has cut his mistakes in half.
- CanuckDon

Gourmet Nachos with shredded brisket and fresh made salsa washed down with a squealer from the Cumberland Brewing Company.
- Marwood

Gourmet Nachos with shredded brisket and fresh made salsa washed down with a squealer from the Cumberland Brewing Company.
- Marwood

Had one of those last night