- blarneylad

I've been saying Nuge is expendable for months now, where were you?
- Jeropotato

I had to see the difference with Nuge removed and McDavid swapped in... I did originally perceive 3 top centers to be a luxury we needed to maintain... Now - its evident 2 Leon and McDavid are more than likely to carry the load and if Nuge fetches a top dman- we are better off... You were right- but Chia has work to do in fetching another serviceable center for 3C and periodic fill ins when an injury surfaces...

The only way I let go Nuge is in a trade for Shattenkirk, who has agreed to re-sign. Straight across or minor pieces added.

I dangle Fayne plus more for Hamonic.

Klef/Shat
Sek/Ham
Nurse.Gryba.Reinhart.Davidson
- McSavioursPupil

Hamonic is a top pairing guy. At worst a 3 going forward

Fayne is an overpaid bottom pair. Who cleared waivers at one point. Probably not even in our top 6 when all is said and done

He's certainly been playing better, but unless you're talking a top 5 pick as well and it was at the draft, no chance they talk that swap.
Even then maybe not

Maybe

You'd have to think chia sees the big picture and a couple games ain't gonna change that. If he thinks a different skill set/position helps us more, the last couple games ain't gonna give him much more than a little pause.

But you don't just wanna assume that any plug is gonna succeed with Connor and diminish what his line can bring. eBs is supremely talented himself, and when someone else is drawing defenders like Connor does, you see what he can do with space. Plus, said plug would probably always defer to Connor whereas ebs won't do that.

I've sorta been back and forth, and it's prob not completely fair to gauge without seeing them all in the lineup together. but i think nuge is probably the more expendable one between eberle and him just based on a few things, including what we've seen in the last couple games
- HB77

The big challenge with Ebs is how inconsistent he can be for stretches- he was lights out at the end of the year too with Nuge and Pou... This year not even close... Not sure if it was on Nuge having a poop year offensively or what- but McDavid replacing Nuge seems to have influenced Ebs and Pou- hopefully it lasts more than 2 games... Leon and Hall are the biggest benefactors from having another dangerous line for the Oilers cause teams don't have the capacity to cover a top 6 that's clicking... And I am really liking what Kassian has been doing... We need offense by committee- something we rarely had this season...

I had to see the difference with Nuge removed and McDavid swapped in... I did originally perceive 3 top centers to be a luxury we needed to maintain... Now - its evident 2 Leon and McDavid are more than likely to carry the load and if Nuge fetches a top dman- we are better off... You were right- but Chia has work to do in fetching another serviceable center for 3C and periodic fill ins when an injury surfaces...
- saskoil21

Agreed

I think it's important we try to maintain some of the depth at centre we've suffered for

Of course we're targeting the defender first and if that all we can get, we gotta figure out another asset to use on the 3c. But we lose nuge and still acquire a cheaper bozak type with some semblance of offensive ability who can also move up, I think we're set

Hamonic is a top pairing guy. At worst at 3 going forward

Fayne is an overpaid bottom pair. Who cleared waivers at one point. Probably not even in our top 6 when all is said and done

He's certainly been playing better, but unless you're talking a top 5 pick as well and it was at the draft, no chance they talk that swap.
Even then maybe not
- HB77

Agreed- Fayne is a hard sell- but he seems to have improved a bit of late- but that's likely skewed by weaker opponents and the team clicking...

Agreed

I think it's important we try to maintain some of the depth at centre we've suffered for

Of course we're targeting the defender first and if that all we can get, we gotta figure out another asset to use on the 3c. But we lose nuge and still acquire a cheaper bozak type with some semblance of offensive ability who can also move up, I think we're set
- HB77

Did anybody remind hendo that the game is at noon today so he needs to roll out of the sack before 11 to throw up a game day blog on time today?

The big challenge with Ebs is how inconsistent he can be for stretches- he was lights out at the end of the year too with Nuge and Pou... This year not even close... Not sure if it was on Nuge having a poop year offensively or what- but McDavid replacing Nuge seems to have influenced Ebs and Pou- hopefully it lasts more than 2 games... Leon and Hall are the biggest benefactors from having another dangerous line for the Oilers cause teams don't have the capacity to cover a top 6 that's clicking... And I am really liking what Kassian has been doing... We need offense by committee- something we rarely had this season...
- saskoil21

He's just your typical sniper. They get hot and they get cold.
I just think it bothers us because we've had such few consistent scorers, it's even more apparent when he goes on cold streaks. And he's small, so he can't really contribute in a physical manner if he's not scoring.

I mean we talk about his consistency, but the guy has seasons of 76, on pace for 65 lockout year, 65, 63.
That's top line winger numbers. And consistent


If we didn't have nuge, I think he'd be the easy option to move, but I just think eberle isnt easily replaced by what we have. And we'll just be looking for another sniper the day after we trade him. Plus, he probably doesn't have the value of nuge

Did anybody remind hendo that the game is at noon today so he needs to roll out of the sack before 11 to throw up a game day blog on time today?
- leonkennedy

Lazy pos

Gotta drop my girl off at the airport for 2, so ima have to pvr it.
Freedom for a whole week!!!

He's just your typical sniper. They get hot and they get cold.
I just think it bothers us because we've had such few consistent scorers, it's even more apparent when he goes on cold streaks. And he's small, so he can't really contribute in a physical manner if he's not scoring.

I mean we talk about his consistency, but the guy has seasons of 76, on pace for 65 lockout year, 65, 63.
That's top line winger numbers. And consistent


If we didn't have nuge, I think he'd be the easy option to move, but I just think eberle isnt easily replaced by what we have. And we'll just be looking for another sniper the day after we trade him. Plus, he probably doesn't have the value of nuge
- HB77

Completely correct... When Ebs is cold - he is cold... and it sure didn't help much when he was injured this year... Hopefully he can continue this current tear for another 6 or so games... This team needs to continue its roll and the confidence it brings... TBH- as many had hoped Yak would pan out- I just don't see him being able to replace Eberle... If he had any value- Yak would be the easy option to move... but

Completely correct... When Ebs is cold - he is cold... and it sure didn't help much when he was injured this year... Hopefully he can continue this current tear for another 6 or so games... This team needs to continue its roll and the confidence it brings... TBH- as many had hoped Yak would pan out- I just don't see him being able to replace Eberle... If he had any value- Yak would be the easy option to move... but
- saskoil21

The yaks thing u speak of is exactly why many fans should be happy mact and pc haven't made moves just yet

Yaks has a few good games or plays well beside Connor and the masses are talking about shipping eberle.
Yaks is nowhere near eberle. And I have a bad feeling he never will be

Certainly possible he can become that one shot snipe beside the right guy, but he'll never be able to create his own offence like eberle can

Hamonic is a top pairing guy. At worst a 3 going forward

Fayne is an overpaid bottom pair. Who cleared waivers at one point. Probably not even in our top 6 when all is said and done

He's certainly been playing better, but unless you're talking a top 5 pick as well and it was at the draft, no chance they talk that swap.
Even then maybe not
- HB77

Hamonic is a Top 4. I don't put him at as a definitive Top pair guy.

Fayne seems to be better suited in the East. And no doubt I add to him for Hamonic. !st round this year, no. 1st round next year and maybe a 2nd this year plus another quality prospect for sure.

As much a NYI fans wish it were so they are not going to get an even swap for a guy that wants a trade out. The main piece will not be equal, but the total package will even it out.

The only way I let go Nuge is in a trade for Shattenkirk, who has agreed to re-sign. Straight across or minor pieces added.

I dangle Fayne plus more for Hamonic.

Klef/Shat
Sek/Ham
Nurse.Gryba.Reinhart.Davidson
- McSavioursPupil

Shattenkirk or an equally as good D man with term, yeah, no doubt.

Hamonic for Fayne plus more? I would say an awful (frank)ing lot more. Like Yak, perhaps?

Hamonic is a Top 4. I don't put him at as a definitive Top pair guy.

Fayne seems to be better suited in the East. And no doubt I add to him for Hamonic. !st round this year, no. 1st round next year and maybe a 2nd this year plus another quality prospect for sure.

As much a NYI fans wish it were so they are not going to get an even swap for a guy that wants a trade out. The main piece will not be equal, but the total package will even it out.
- McSavioursPupil

Yeah I tho o Hamonic is about equal to a healthy Klefbom at the moment, maybe a female genitalia hair better, with a great contract. This is an offseason trade at best.

Shattenkirk or an equally as good D man with term, yeah, no doubt.

Hamonic for Fayne plus more? I would say an awful (frank)ing lot more. Like Yak, perhaps?
- Jeropotato

Plus Yak? Done. I like Yak. Every time he gets in a groove things go sideways, then he has to start from the bottom again. Give a chance elsewhere to have a career.

I add even more in the way of a prospect and pick(s).

Yeah I tho o Hamonic is about equal to a healthy Klefbom at the moment, maybe a female genitalia hair better, with a great contract. This is an offseason trade at best.
- Jeropotato

Oh yeah, obviously.