General Fanager doesn't prorate anything from what I've seen.

Also don't agree with the wideman suspension. If it was an accident, then he shouldn't be suspended. If it was on purpose it should be the season plus playoffs
- Bieksa#3

What is your solution? You can't prove it was deliberate or not. This isn't the Supreme Court. The NHL has to make a judgement call. I simply can't understand the argument that it wasn't intentional. I've played hockey for 30 years and i have never accidentally cross checked someone from behind. I hammer people all the time and "pretend" it wasn't on purpose. Weidman is full of sh!t

I dont usually complain about the lineup....its more of a system complaint....or lack of 1 more specifically.

My posted D pairings are a change from this year even. 3D gone, 3 new with keeping pedan up whom we all here liked his play (taking webers spot). -3....+3....thats half the D! What changes is it becomes a bit more offensive and certainly bigger and more physical, which we need.

Tree will hopefully be a lucky wildcard.
- SMBDragon

If not, at least he has a sweet nickname

Interesting you bring up shots, good shot blocker terrible shot differential as he is not good at breaking out or preventing quality shot attempts. He's been dead last on his team for Corsi the last two seasons, the only guy who is as unrealiable as him in Englland, which is why Russell has been demoted.
- neem55

Who so you want?
Let's sign Buff at 7 and 7
Let's trade horvat for a top 4 D

News flash we arent a contender. We sign a huge long term contract and it hinders us going forward. Russell is probably a 39-35 pt D man here at about 1.5 mill less then Edler. These are the types of moves we need to make. Stop gaps.

If not, at least he has a sweet nickname
- neem55

thats true

I think he will be great. All the scouts from across the league say he has the tools to be something special.
I'm praying he turns into something close to pronger

that might be wishful, but even half or 2/3 rds of pronger would be great for us

What is your solution? You can't prove it was deliberate or not. This isn't the Supreme Court. The NHL has to make a judgement call. I simply can't understand the argument that it wasn't intentional. I've played hockey for 30 years and i have never accidentally cross checked someone from behind. I hammer people all the time and "pretend" it wasn't on purpose. Weidman is full of sh!t
- CanuckDon

The NHL is every single incedwnt decides the intent on a play. It one of their criteria when deciding discipline, no?
Personally I don't think it was on purpose. But as I said, they decide on intent

Who so you want?
Let's sign Buff at 7 and 7
Let's trade horvat for a top 4 D

News flash we arent a contender. We sign a huge long term contract and it hinders us going forward. Russell is probably a 39-35 pt D man here at about 1.5 mill less then Edler. These are the types of moves we need to make. Stop gaps.
- Bieksa#3

well i think that trading for a worse defenseman is a bad move. Russell is 28 not 25. We need young guys. Why sign Buff at 30 years old? Hamonic is 25, so makes a fair bit of sense to trade for IMO. I'd like to see us back in the playoffs in 3 years, Russel is already a proven d liability. Why do we need more points on D? How about some defenders that can defend?! Have I ever said anything other than lock Horvat up?! I'm not sure where you're coming from, sorry.

well i think that trading for a worse defenseman is a bad move. Russell is 28 not 25. We need young guys. Why sign Buff at 30 years old? Hamonic is 25, so makes a fair bit of sense IMO. I'd like to see us back in the playoffs in 3 years, Russel is already a proven d liability. Why do we need more points on D? How about some defenders that can defend?!
- neem55

Why are we trading for a ufa
And are u really asking why we need more offensive from the bluekine

Why are we trading for a ufa
And are u really asking why we need more offensive from the bluekine
- Bieksa#3

Were not contending, but we need more goals this year...
Hamonic isn't a UFA, again I'm not quite sure where you're coming from.

Were not contending, but we need more goals this year...
Hamonic isn't a UFA, again I'm not quite sure where you're coming from.
- neem55

Perhaps you misunderstood. We sign Russell at around 3.5(as I mentioned he'd cost roughly 1.5 mill less then Edler)
I don't want Hamonic at the cost.

I'm not sure Hamonic is better then Tanev
- Bieksa#3

This

If Tanev requested a trade to the East to be closer to home, or less travel, or whatever, he would be just as sought after as Hamonic is.

The only reason I would trade Tanev is because he's too defensively orientated for top pairing. He blocks sooooo many shots. One of them is eventually gonna hit him in just the right spot and break his foot, or his wrist, or whatever and he doesn't have the offensive upside to justify a spot as a top 2 Dman.

Forget next year. This team is not going to see the 2nd round of the playoffs for a long time. If you can trade Tanev, or Edler for a can't miss prospect then you go for it and plug the hole with an overpaid UFA to ride out the storm.

well i think that trading for a worse defenseman is a bad move. Russell is 28 not 25. We need young guys. Why sign Buff at 30 years old? Hamonic is 25, so makes a fair bit of sense to trade for IMO. I'd like to see us back in the playoffs in 3 years, Russel is already a proven d liability. Why do we need more points on D? How about some defenders that can defend?! Have I ever said anything other than lock Horvat up?! I'm not sure where you're coming from, sorry.
- neem55

Or even No UFAs and let Tree and Pedan have their crack

Everyone here liked pedans play and tree is highly touted as a potential superstar

I like Shattenkirk, Demers, Ellis more.
Kris Russel seems comparable to Ellis (just a bit older and smaller).
I would not be opposed, but don't know if you could get Burkie to deal with Vancouver.
- dbot

NO!!!!!!

Anyone know how to direct message in the hockey pool? Im trying to get a hold of Lord of the rinks....

Perhaps you misunderstood. We sign Russell at around 3.5(as I mentioned he'd cost roughly 1.5 mill less then Edler)
I don't want Hamonic at the cost.
- Bieksa#3

He's also not even close to Edler in terms over defensive acumen. Maybe he could play with Sbisa in the 3-4 sure, but he's not capable of taking Edler or Tanev's spot based on stats alone, these are stats where he's playing substantially less minutes against less talented opposition and still getting burned.

I like Shattenkirk, Demers, Ellis more.
Kris Russel seems comparable to Ellis (just a bit older and smaller).
I would not be opposed, but don't know if you could get Burkie to deal with Vancouver.
- dbot

I'm suggesting signing UFA Russell in the summer. I want to add exactly nothing but picks and prospects this yr

Or even No UFAs and let Tree and Pedan have their crack
- SMBDragon

I don't mind this, they will have to sign someone. Bart and Hammer out, even just for depth. I'd like to think our draftpick may push for a spot too

He's also not even close to Edler in terms over defensive acumen. Maybe he could play with Sbisa in the 3-4 sure, but he's not capable of taking Edler or Tanev's spot based on stats alone, these are stats where he's playing substantially less minutes against less talented opposition and still getting burned.
- neem55

All I want is a stop gap. If u can figure out how to trade Higgins and Hansen for Lindholm and Vaatanen I'm listening. I suggested Russell could fit in our top 4 next season. A nice short 2 yr deal not locking up a roster spot or cap long term

Who so you want?
Let's sign Buff at 7 and 7
Let's trade horvat for a top 4 D

News flash we arent a contender. We sign a huge long term contract and it hinders us going forward. Russell is probably a 39-35 pt D man here at about 1.5 mill less then Edler. These are the types of moves we need to make. Stop gaps.
- Bieksa#3

i'd take buff for 4 years at 8.5 M

I don't mind this, they will have to sign someone. Bart and Hammer out, even just for depth. I'd like to think our draftpick may push for a spot too
- neem55

right...so go with our draftee's amd if a UFA comes along that is a slam dunk then do it.

most guys here would just complain about whom ever we signed anyways, so let the kids play for gods sake

i'd take buff for 4 years at 8.5 M
- Max.Betts

No thanks.

I'm not sure Hamonic is better then Tanev
- Bieksa#3

But he's cheaper.

I don't mind this, they will have to sign someone. Bart and Hammer out, even just for depth. I'd like to think our draft pick may push for a spot too
- neem55

like this the 7/8 spots are cheap so its doable. Rotate in and out of lineup. Adds offense and size, toughness

Edler-Hamonic
Vatanen-Sbisa
Hutton-Tryamkin
Pedan
Biega

Edler and Vatanen on PP

not sure what's going on, but agent carter seems to have stopped playing on hulu plus at one particular point...

whats the story with cedarholm?

I'm suggesting signing UFA Russell in the summer. I want to add exactly nothing but picks and prospects this yr
- Bieksa#3

I see us desperately needing a top 4 Dman and see us trading to acquire one.
Must be young(ish), have potential, size, mobility.