I would only be happy with an Edler trade if it brought us a young top 4 d man, otherwise it's pointless... we dont get better through that trade if we leave another hole in our defense.... suck it tanknation peeps. I dream of an Edler for Hamonic/Vatanen deal (whether who adds, I dont care)

Disappoonted to see Sutter on the 4th Line, but Willie rolls his lines fairly evenly so he'll help out Virtanen/Dorsett. Willie should trade a forward for a defenceman with less salary. So with that in mind here's what I would offer if I were JB:

Vrbata
Edler

For

Hamonic

Probably not enough to get it done (not sure what Isles cap is like), but works as a salary dump for the anucks but might be 2 enticing roster players to get it done. Dont feel the canucks roster would feel the hit for a 2 for 1 roster player deal, this is how I would do the lines:

Dank-Sutter-Hank
Baertschi-Horvat-Hansen
Burrows-Vey-Etem
Dorsett-McCann-Virtanen

Tanev-Hamonic
Hutton-Hamhuis
Biega-Sbisa

I'm probably living in a fantasy world
thoughts?
- Crazybagoham

I think it will be 2 x 3rd lines. Sutter's and Vey's line will get equal ice time.

Streisand?
- Marwood

Dabs

I think you've overvalued Hamonic here by a pretty wide margin. I also doubt NYI has the roster space to make this happen. I like Hamonic though, they would likely want Tanev or Edler back in any trade with us. Vrbata is an interesting piece because they are short on wingers.
- neem55

Agreed.
With Hammonic requesting a trade, plus the fact that Edler is signed to a decent term, NYI would have to add a decent prospect/pick to make this work.

To say nothing of Edler's/vrbata's NTC.

I think you've overvalued Hamonic here by a pretty wide margin. I also doubt NYI has the roster space to make this happen. I like Hamonic though, they would likely want Tanev or Edler back in any trade with us. Vrbata is an interesting piece because they are short on wingers.
- neem55

On paper Id rather it be tanev. He isnt offensive nor physical, just reliable. Edler has far more upside big, offensive, can hit good....Plus I'd like to see how his play is with someone other than tanev, who he's been with for several years. We see what being without bieksa this year has done for sbisa. Perhaps Hammer would be better w edler than tanev.

Id suspect pairing edler w a true #1 would do wonders for his game...or in the 3/4 spots.

On the flipside, if its true about edler as thunda has reported about him yelling at players perhaps hes the best mofo to trade.

Streisand?
- Marwood

bingo.

Benning said they are going all in to make the playoffs. When I see him taking on players instead of dumping them, then I might believe him.
- VANTEL

They can go as " all in " as they like. This team lost it's chance for the playoffs last month.# no playoffs in van city 2016

On paper Id rather it be tanev. He isnt offensive nor physical, just reliable. Edler has far more upside big, offensive, can hit good....Plus I'd like to see how his play is with someone other than tanev, who he's been with for several years. We see what being without bieksa this year has done for sbisa. Perhaps Hammer would be better w edler than tanev.

Id suspect pairing edler w a true #1 would do wonders for his game...or in the 3/4 spots.

On the flipside, if its true about edler as thunda has reported about him yelling at players perhaps hes the best mofo to trade.
- SMBDragon

i'm not sold on hamonic as a #1, if I was I think the deal would be good. But he is an upgrade on Tanev IMO. But Tanev is 26, Edler 29 which is a factor too.

They can go as " all in " as they like. This team lost it's chance for the playoffs last year when I joined HB.
- Bullfrog77

Fixed

On paper Id rather it be tanev. He isnt offensive nor physical, just reliable. Edler has far more upside big, offensive, can hit good....Plus I'd like to see how his play is with someone other than tanev, who he's been with for several years. We see what being without bieksa this year has done for sbisa. Perhaps Hammer would be better w edler than tanev.

Id suspect pairing edler w a true #1 would do wonders for his game...or in the 3/4 spots.

On the flipside, if its true about edler as thunda has reported about him yelling at players perhaps hes the best mofo to trade.
- SMBDragon

There's no upside to Edlers game. Playing him with a true #1 won't improve him at all. It's just the number one would have to be that much better to compensate for Edlers poop positional play. It's just Edler camouflage .

Dabs




- A_SteamingLombardi

bingo.
- neem55

Fixed
- A_SteamingLombardi

accurate fix. Last year was what I like to refer to as overachieving. I think it was an FU to torts and anyone else who wrote them off, but this core is stale... whether they like it or not (or any of us) Torts was right on that point.

- Marwood

babs was the the wind beneath the Wings

i'm not sold on hamonic as a #1, if I was I think the deal would be good. But he is an upgrade on Tanev IMO. But Tanev is 26, Edler 29 which is a factor too.
- neem55

of course...but if you can do something like tanev + burrows or vrbatta for hamonic you do it.

Like this for next season

Edler-Hamonic
Hutton-Sbisa
Biega-Tryamkin
Pedan

General Fanager doesn't prorate anything from what I've seen.

Also don't agree with the wideman suspension. If it was an accident, then he shouldn't be suspended. If it was on purpose it should be the season plus playoffs

of course...but if you can do something like tanev + burrows or vrbatta for hamonic you do it.

Like this for next season

Edler-Hamonic
Hutton-Sbisa
Biega-Tryamkin
Pedan
- SMBDragon

I'm not sure Hamonic is better then Tanev

of course...but if you can do something like tanev + burrows or vrbatta for hamonic you do it.

Like this for next season

Edler-Hamonic
Hutton-Sbisa
Biega-Tryamkin
Pedan
- SMBDragon

I'd like Hamonic on the team, but that D does not look any better than the shambles you've been complaining about all year.

Hutton is not top 4 (yet at least).
Swapping Tanev for Hamonic does not address the hole we have in our top 4.
Ideally we'd trade for a true #1D (but that's not gonna happen).
Realistically, i'd like to trade for a good #2/3 Dman.
? Shattenkirk, ? Goligoski, ? Ellis, ? Demers.
Then the lineup would look like

Edler-Tanev
?-Sbisa
Biega-Tree

of course...but if you can do something like tanev + burrows or vrbatta for hamonic you do it.

Like this for next season

Edler-Hamonic
Hutton-Sbisa
Biega-Tryamkin
Pedan
- SMBDragon

I know this is going to sound contradictory to my opinion of Edler overall, but I like Tanev-Hamonic as a pair more, given their respective ages, going forward. I also think you have to pakage much more with Tanev, wheras Edler for Hamonic is similar value. Maybe we take back a bad contract and a draft pick if Vrbata or Burrows is in the mix.

I'd like Hamonic on the team, but that D does not look any better than the shambles you've been complaining about all year.

Hutton is not top 4 (yet at least).
Swapping Tanev for Hamonic does not address the hole we have in our top 4.
Ideally we'd trade for a true #1D (but that's not gonna happen).
Realistically, i'd like to trade for a good #2/3 Dman.
? Shattenkirk, ? Goligoski, ? Ellis, ? Demers.
Then the lineup would look like

Edler-Tanev
?-Sbisa
Biega-Tree
- dbot

Kris Russell.

Kris Russell.
- Bieksa#3

Is as overrated as they come? Agreed.

Is as overrated as they come? Agreed.
- neem55

Is as overrated as they come? Agreed.
- neem55

I see u are just looking at the boxscore.
Russell ia a decent offensive D man and great shot blocker. He'd esily be in our top 4.

I see u are just looking at the boxscore.
Russell ia a decent offensive D man and great shot blocker. He'd esily be in our top 4.
- Bieksa#3

I like Shattenkirk, Demers, Ellis more.
Kris Russel seems comparable to Ellis (just a bit older and smaller).
I would not be opposed, but don't know if you could get Burkie to deal with Vancouver.

I see u are just looking at the boxscore.
Russell ia a decent offensive D man and great shot blocker. He'd esily be in our top 4.
- Bieksa#3

Interesting you bring up shots, good shot blocker terrible shot differential as he is not good at breaking out or preventing quality shot attempts. He's been dead last on his team for Corsi the last two seasons, the only guy who is as unrealiable as him in Englland, which is why Russell has been demoted.

I'd like Hamonic on the team, but that D does not look any better than the shambles you've been complaining about all year.

Hutton is not top 4 (yet at least).
Swapping Tanev for Hamonic does not address the hole we have in our top 4.
Ideally we'd trade for a true #1D (but that's not gonna happen).
Realistically, i'd like to trade for a good #2/3 Dman.
? Shattenkirk, ? Goligoski, ? Ellis, ? Demers.
Then the lineup would look like

Edler-Tanev
?-Sbisa
Biega-Tree
- dbot

I dont usually complain about the lineup....its more of a system complaint....or lack of 1 more specifically.

My posted D pairings are a change from this year even. 3D gone, 3 new with keeping pedan up whom we all here liked his play (taking webers spot). -3....+3....thats half the D! What changes is it becomes a bit more offensive and certainly bigger and more physical, which we need.

Tree will hopefully be a lucky wildcard.

Edler-Hamonic
Hutton-Sbisa
Biega-Tryamkin
Pedan