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allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
if you think that's vicious then you must be concussed

If someone is concussed their entire surroundings are different ...they see things blurred and react slower than normal ...

- Redmile247


That's if you believe his argument that he was, because like I said earlier if he was he should have been sent to the quiet room and the concussion protocol would have taken over, he wasn't sent, the Flames are now in potential trouble with the league and it's an endless loop because the NHLPA should be up in arms over that fact that the Flames have now said and agreed he had a concussion and let him play?

You can't have it both ways so we'll see how this plays out.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
if you think that's vicious then you must be concussed

If someone is concussed their entire surroundings are different ...they see things blurred and react slower than normal ...

- Redmile247

Vicious enough tokeep the linesman in the hospital over night.
What reaction did you expect coming into a Canuck's thread feeling sorry for yourself because a Calgary Flame got a much deserved suspension?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Wideman had a concussion and didn't see the ref ...it was more to defend himself than anything ...I'm not saying what weber did was wrong ...just that there is no way it's 20 games difference
- Redmile247

I agree on the suspension..I thought it would be 10-15 but the appeal should bring it down a bit.

I've seen plenty of head injuries in my Arena where players aren't automatically lethargic or woozy due to a pending concussion or head shot. Sure Wideman was pissed...I would be too but in my eyes Wideman looked straight up at the ref and knew exactly what he was doing. Many players leaving the ice due to injury(concussion or not) are aware of their surroundings. Using the concussion thing to me is just an excuse but most teams, if not all teams would have spun it that way.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Hey we're all homers sometime. But the NHL had no choice really, if they let this go for a short suspension they will be saying that its okay we're not really protecting our officials and then it becomes a slippery slope where you'd see more players accidentally bumping into officials, etc.

No matter what in any sport you have to protect the officials or you let the people run the asylum instead of having some sort of order.

The NHLPA is making a huge mistake I think in using the argument Wideman was concussed because they lay it out there that its possible that players are playing concussed then and the past players and current players who may get CTE or some other brain diseases might not have a defense against the NHL in a class action laswsuit for saying "they didn't know the ramifications" of hits to the head or hits period.

- allsports


I think the league needs to see how relaxed they truly are on concussions ....this looks worse on them and the flames to me then a collision that went viral ...wideman should have sat the rest of the game and the linesman too
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Oh yes, I have heard of those guys. I'm saying you can't afford to miss on a top 10 pick. If a Russian was ranked 5 and he dropped to 10 then sure we should grab him.
- CanuckDon


Benning just now needs to pick the majority of picks in the first couple of rounds Dmen. We need to hope to get a Lidstrom in the other rounds.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
Vicious enough tokeep the linesman in the hospital over night.
What reaction did you expect coming into a Canuck's thread feeling sorry for yourself because a Calgary Flame got a much deserved suspension?

- Marwood


I don't see this as a Canucks vs flames thing ...it could be argued that less wideman might be a good thing ....just saying how can you say this was a vicious attack that's all ...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
Wideman had a concussion and didn't see the ref ...it was more to defend himself than anything ...I'm not saying what weber did was wrong ...just that there is no way it's 20 games difference
- Redmile247


Weidman is a lowlife scumbag and got what he deserved. On another note, why can't your organization diagnose a concussion?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
Oh yes, I have heard of those guys. I'm saying you can't afford to miss on a top 10 pick. If a Russian was ranked 5 and he dropped to 10 then sure we should grab him.
- CanuckDon


Yeah, fair enough. I'm not sold on Sergachev either to be honest. I think Juolevi and Chychrun look like reare guys, skate really well and can play defense and score. Those don't grow on trees. NHL is transitioning to guys that can skate like that from the back end IMO. I want one!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
I like Red yeah
- VANTEL

Agreed. Normally a rational poster. We all have our off days.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
I think the league needs to see how relaxed they truly are on concussions ....this looks worse on them and the flames to me then a collision that went viral ...wideman should have sat the rest of the game and the linesman too
- Redmile247







Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
That's if you believe his argument that he was, because like I said earlier if he was he should have been sent to the quiet room and the concussion protocol would have taken over, he wasn't sent, the Flames are now in potential trouble with the league and it's an endless loop because the NHLPA should be up in arms over that fact that the Flames have now said and agreed he had a concussion and let him play?

You can't have it both ways so we'll see how this plays out.

- allsports


I agree they are in trouble ...I thought there was supposed to be league concussion spotters too ? Or are they just employed by the home team ?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
I agree they are in trouble ...I thought there was supposed to be league concussion spotters too ? Or are they just employed by the home team ?
- Redmile247


good god
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
its not even that he saw him or not if your rattled you just act. ive ended up in a grocery store two days after one with no idea how or why i was there. ive tried to get in to a car that wasnt mine after a game where i got blown up.
- mauryballstein


At least now we know why you are a Leafs fan
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
Agreed. Normally a rational poster. We all have our off days.
- Marwood

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
I don't see this as a Canucks vs flames thing ...it could be argued that less wideman might be a good thing ....just saying how can you say this was a vicious attack that's all ...
- Redmile247

Umm, because I saw it.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
I think the league needs to see how relaxed they truly are on concussions ....this looks worse on them and the flames to me then a collision that went viral ...wideman should have sat the rest of the game and the linesman too
- Redmile247


Does/did Wideman actually have a concussion though? I know he was banged up, but I haven't seen any conclusive report. This is obviously a message sent to players in general, can't be doing that to ref's.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
At least now we know why you are a Leafs fan
- CanuckDon

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Weidman is a lowlife scumbag and got what he deserved. On another note, why can't your organization diagnose a concussion?
- CanuckDon


Yes he is a total scumbag ....raffi Torres meets Todd bertizzi rolled into one

That's what the league has to fix ...the flames aren't the first team to have this happen and won't be the last
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Does/did Wideman actually have a concussion though? I know he was banged up, but I haven't seen any conclusive report. This is obviously a message sent to players in general, can't be doing that to ref's.
- neem55

Apparently not, practicing today.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
good god
- Codes1087


What's your issue ?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:24 PM ET


- Codes1087


So a week after a concussion your not allowed to test it out ?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:25 PM ET
Yes he is a total scumbag ....raffi Torres meets Todd bertizzi rolled into one

That's what the league has to fix ...the flames aren't the first team to have this happen and won't be the last

- Redmile247


Wideman eats peanut butter.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:26 PM ET
I like Red yeah
- VANTEL


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:26 PM ET
So a week after a concussion your not allowed to test it out ?
- Redmile247


you are using concussion as the main excuse as to why Wideman buried a referee from behind after a hit, yet you are saying a concussion of this magnitude should be shaken off after 1 week?

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:28 PM ET
“Good defencemen are hard to come by, and there’s a premium on top-four defencemen. You have to draft and develop them yourselves, that’s what it seems to me," Benning said.

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