You do realize I don't know what good wine is


I have actually been having a lot of 40 dollar wine lately
- VANTEL

that explains a lot

I don't know why Carolina would want to trade him
- VANTEL

I agree Carolina would never accept this offer. That's not the point. The point is about finding out what is the consensus market value for these assets. Also in the spirit of my point earlier about Tanev not being an offensive threat for the amount of ice time he gets, what current players/picks and prospects you would give to acquire a true 1RD.

thats not what i am , just your ignorant opinion of me. your irony is that i am a Richard
- onesmallleap

Makita will decide whether it's opinion or irony.

that explains a lot
- A_SteamingLombardi

Piss off

I agree Carolina would never accept this offer. That's not the point. The point is about finding out what is the consensus market value for these assets. Also in the spirit of my point earlier about Tanev not being an offensive threat for the amount of ice time he gets, what current players/picks and prospects you would give to acquire a true 1RD.
- Max.Betts

ok ....the truth is you have to have the tits to be the shets

Makita will decide whether it's opinion or irony.
- A_SteamingLombardi

the truth is i use milwaukee

Makita will decide whether it's opinion or irony.
- A_SteamingLombardi

makida is japanese for no can go boss!

boom bithches

I agree Carolina would never accept this offer. That's not the point. The point is about finding out what is the consensus market value for these assets. Also in the spirit of my point earlier about Tanev not being an offensive threat for the amount of ice time he gets, what current players/picks and prospects you would give to acquire a true 1RD.
- Max.Betts

I have to admit I don't see the love for Tanev . I get that he is a minute muncher and plays good positional D . I want more from my top pair. I want big shut down guys , difference makers, big numbers or a leader .

If Tanev was our number 4 guy I would be less critical . He doesn't have the numbers, he is not a leader or a protector.

wasnt paying attention to those posts......hows he differ from any of the other drunken d1ckheads here?
- SMBDragon

Vantel has been a Richard to me so no biggie , Richards are Richards!!

I have to admit I don't see the love for Tanev . I get that he is a minute muncher and plays good positional D . I want more from my top pair. I want big shut down guys , difference makers, big numbers or a leader .

If Tanev was our number 4 guy I would be less critical . He doesn't have the numbers, he is not a leader or a protector.
- VANTEL

It's the same argument as with Edler. It's not the player's fault they're playing a spot above their heads. That's just the Canucks' depth chart, but it doesn't change that fact that they are still effective valuable players.

I have to admit I don't see the love for Tanev . I get that he is a minute muncher and plays good positional D . I want more from my top pair. I want big shut down guys , difference makers, big numbers or a leader .

If Tanev was our number 4 guy I would be less critical . He doesn't have the numbers, he is not a leader or a protector.
- VANTEL

I think he's worth every cap dollar of his contract. Stay at home guy, good shut down player with good speed and the ability to move the puck good. There is a place for him on this team, #4 guy.

But would you plug one hole to fill another and trade your #4 guy if the return is a legit 1-2? I wouldn't get in a bidding war for Hamonic this summer but if there was a way to acquire without giving up Tanev, the right side is in decent shape with Hamonic, Tanev and Biega if necessary.

It's the same argument as with Edler. It's not the player's fault they're playing a spot above their heads. That's just the Canucks' depth chart, but it doesn't change that fact that they are still effective valuable players.
- CubanBuffet

So if we go blow our Stamkos money on Buff and Campbell that will actually give us a real top 4?

It's really a win win situation in that if they push for the playoffs with a good two week stretch here (haven't checked the schedule) the young guys will get some good experience. If they don't, their odds for a good draft position get better.
- LeftCoaster

That's my line of thinking as well.

So if we go blow our Stamkos money on Buff and Campbell that will actually give us a real top 4?
- Max.Betts

Might as well just give us the cup.

I have to admit I don't see the love for Tanev . I get that he is a minute muncher and plays good positional D . I want more from my top pair. I want big shut down guys , difference makers, big numbers or a leader .

If Tanev was our number 4 guy I would be less critical . He doesn't have the numbers, he is not a leader or a protector.
- VANTEL

Trade for Ryan Ellis in the offseason, when Nashville realizes they need some more help up front??

It's the same argument as with Edler. It's not the player's fault they're playing a spot above their heads. That's just the Canucks' depth chart, but it doesn't change that fact that they are still effective valuable players.
- CubanBuffet

They have value. I still say try to upgrade

Trade for Ryan Ellis in the offseason, when Nashville realizes they need some more help up front??
- dbot

I still think the easiest way to have impact would be draft a top 7 pick That Russian has a very good shot

I still think the easiest way to have impact would be draft a top 7 pick That Russian has a very good shot
- VANTEL

I see us doing both (drafting a D and trading for some help).
Usually takes a few years for D to have an impact, unless they're an exceptional talent like Ekblad, Hedman, etc.

I see us doing both (drafting a D and trading for some help).
Usually takes a few years for D to have an impact, unless they're an exceptional talent like Ekblad, Hedman, etc.
- dbot

I agree. Do both. If Tryamkin can fit as a 4-6 Dman that would be excellent, it would be a great start

I agree. Do both. If Tryamkin can fit as a 4-6 Dman that would be excellent, it would be a great start
- VANTEL

Yes, Tryamkin would be a nice bonus (akin to Hutton this year).
But i still think we need a solid #2/3 Dman to help shoulder the load.

Yes, Tryamkin would be a nice bonus (akin to Hutton this year).
But i still think we need a solid #2/3 Dman to help shoulder the load.
- dbot

Too expensive. Need to draft one.

It could be done but it would cost big time. I think it is better to try tade for a number 3 guy.

I still think the easiest way to have impact would be draft a top 7 pick That Russian has a very good shot
- VANTEL

I'm opposed to drafting a Russian that high. Look at Provorov? nicushkin? To many uncertainties with the Russians. If we have a top 7 pick I want a Swede, Yank or Canadian. Perhaps one of the Finns but they haven't exactly lit up men's league.

I have to admit I don't see the love for Tanev . I get that he is a minute muncher and plays good positional D . I want more from my top pair. I want big shut down guys , difference makers, big numbers or a leader .

If Tanev was our number 4 guy I would be less critical . He doesn't have the numbers, he is not a leader or a protector.
- VANTEL

For sure. I hope in the future his role is on the second pair, we clearly need more offesively talented and fearsome guys. I like tanev for his price at the 3-4 role though, I think 3-5 is the range there now that top enders are getting 7-9 mil

Too expensive. Need to draft one.

It could be done but it would cost big time. I think it is better to try tade for a number 3 guy.
- VANTEL

I hear ya.
It would have to be a pretty ideal situation, where a young, promising Dman is stuck behind even better talent and keen to get a chance in Vancouver.

Sort of like Hamhuis was.
Nash is still a good example i think, where someone like Ellis might be getable, and might be able to be a good 2/3 if given the opportunity.

in context it was after 9 pages of negativity, then some poster saying, Go Flames Go , you actually got me to respnd. That is a sickening , disgusting comment to make in a Canucks forum, it is akin to trolling
- onesmallleap

Seriously, I think you need to step back and be more objective. It is not an "sickening , disgusting comment to make in a Canucks forum, it is akin to trolling" comment.

As has been pointed out earlier, if you truly wish to have a discussion with canuck fans try to be more engaging, rather than being rantish because you disagree that some would like a top 10 pick. At this particular moment in canucks history "they suck". They will be extremely fortunate to make the PO, (I'm being overly generous here) and are more than likely to pick in the top ten.

I follow every blog, and infrequently respond, but attacks like yours will only bring retaliatory replies where I will have to step in, hope you understand what I'm trying to advise.