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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Brandon Prust On Waivers, Alex Biega Re-Signed
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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 3 @ 2:11 AM ET
Exactly, government work causes cancer.
- A_SteamingLombardi

still clean, but after today I may need a new checkup
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 3 @ 2:13 AM ET
Actually, it's the government that causes cancer, it's a known fact that in the 70's during the Cold War, they created a virus that they purposefully exposed civil service workers to, to help along human evolution that through hybridization. The virus was a vector for alien DNA taken from the Roswell crash victim just in case you were wondering.
- DariusKnight

WTF
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 3 @ 2:23 AM ET
The bottom 9 teams in the NHL are Columbus, Buffalo and Canada.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 3 @ 2:35 AM ET
Not reading back....what's up? I quit my job today, I hate idiocy and bureaucracy
- LeftCoaster


That didn't last long
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Feb 3 @ 8:11 AM ET
You'll trade a 1st for Vrbata and like it.
- golfingsince

Counter offer.
The twins and Vrbata for Deharnais and John Scott
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:02 AM ET
Counter offer.
The twins and Vrbata for Deharnais and John Scott

- mlindsay


Rebuttal:

Subban, Gally, Beaulieu for Twins+ Vrbatta + Gaunce + 2nd.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 9:24 AM ET
The bottom 9 teams in the NHL are Columbus, Buffalo and Canada.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Tony Gallagher knew it all along
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 9:33 AM ET
I just seen General Fanager telling Carol that Canucks still need to move about 2.5 mil before Hank and Hammer can come back . Something needs to be done pronto.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:48 AM ET
I just seen General Fanager telling Carol that Canucks still need to move about 2.5 mil before Hank and Hammer can come back . Something needs to be done pronto.
- VANTEL


Even after the Prust move?
What's the deal with waiving, the Canucks still have half that players salary count against the cap?

On a site note, with Horvat, Sven, Vey, Biega, Hutton, McCann, Etem and Virtanen on the roster, i could have never foreseen us having to juggle the cap limit
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 9:48 AM ET
If the draft was today we would be drafting 7 th and taking a Finnish or Russian Dman
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 9:53 AM ET
Even after the Prust move?
What's the deal with waiving, the Canucks still have half that players salary count against the cap?

On a site note, with Horvat, Sven, Vey, Biega, Hutton, McCann and Virtanen on the roster, i could have never foreseen us having to juggle the cap limit

- Whiskey-Tango


I think they put him on waivers was to see if anyone wanted him for free. They tried to trade him and found no takers. His remaining salary is about 1 mil dollars and it seems like no one wants him at that price without giving up picks.

They had a lot of injuries so bringing players in drove the price up
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:58 AM ET
I think they put him on waivers was to see if anyone wanted him for free. They tried to trade him and found no takers. His remaining salary is about 1 mil dollars and it seems like no one wants him at that price without giving up picks.

They had a lot of injuries so bringing players in drove the price up

- VANTEL


Sure, but we only brought in/up.
Vey 1 mill.
Etem 850,
Biega 600,

2,450,000.
Minus

Higgins 2.5
Prust 2.5.

5 million at half, 2.5.

Still don't get it
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 10:01 AM ET
Sure, but we only brought in/up.
Vey 1 mill.
Etem 850,
Biega 600,

2,450,000.
Minus

Higgins 2.5
Prust 2.5.

5 million at half, 2.5.

Still don't get it

- Whiskey-Tango


I don't think they were on LTIR only injury reserved. Hamhuis was on LTIR but not the rest . So their salaries never came off the books

They also brought in guys like Pedan Zalewski Shinkaruk Grenier Gaunce even if short term if the player is not on LTIR it eats up cap
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:09 AM ET
I don't think they were on LTIR only injury reserved. Hamhuis was on LTIR but not the rest . So their salaries never came off the books

They also brought in guys like Pedan Zalewski Shinkaruk Grenier Gaunce even if short term if the player is not on LTIR it eats up cap

- VANTEL


Ok, but isn't it all relative?
Bringing up those players hit the cap, but sending them back down would have reversed the initial burden.

Also, if most of the injured players weren't on LTIR, then how did we not go over the cap in the first place by calling up all those players and while still maintaining Higgins and Prust's 5 mill cap burden? Hamhuis is only making 4.5?

Christ I'm happy I'm not an accountant.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 3 @ 10:12 AM ET
I'm really happy that Biega's kid can now come out of the closet, oh and Carol for future reference, a splash of Booth is still to much Booth.
- A_SteamingLombardi


be careful "splashing" Booth - he'll miss 2-4 weeks
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:13 AM ET
The way i see it, when the entire team was healthy at the start of the season, i.e with Sutter and Hamhuis playing (7.8 cap hit), we were cap compliant with the likes of Higgins and Prust in the line-up (5Mill).

Now, somehow we are 2.5 million (?) over the cap and yet we replaced both Higgins and Prust with cheaper options (Vey, Etem and Biega) that still comes out cheaper then the above two players at half their salary...?
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 3 @ 10:19 AM ET
The way i see it, when the entire team was healthy at the start of the season, i.e with Sutter and Hamhuis playing (7.8 cap hit), we were cap compliant with the likes of Higgins and Prust in the line-up (5Mill).

Now, somehow we are 2.5 million (?) over the cap and yet we replaced both Higgins and Prust with cheaper options (Vey, Etem and Biega) that still comes out cheaper then the above two players at half their salary...?

- Whiskey-Tango

I think when you send a player to the minors, you only get a savings of around $950,000 against the cap. The rest of their salary still counts against the cap. So, for instance, Higgins' cap hit is normally $2.5M. However, because he is in the minors, the Canucks are incurring a $1.55M hit against their cap.

Not sure if that clears things up or not...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 10:28 AM ET
Ok, but isn't it all relative?
Bringing up those players hit the cap, but sending them back down would have reversed the initial burden.

Also, if most of the injured players weren't on LTIR, then how did we not go over the cap in the first place by calling up all those players and while still maintaining Higgins and Prust's 5 mill cap burden? Hamhuis is only making 4.5?

Christ I'm happy I'm not an accountant.

- Whiskey-Tango

I also know a few times this year I went to General Fanager and found Canucks and a few teams over the cap . When asked GF said it was under emergency call up. Many days this year Canucks were over the cap
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 10:29 AM ET
Point is until they move some salary Hank and/or Hamhuis injury will take longer than expected
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:30 AM ET
I think when you send a player to the minors, you only get a savings of around $950,000 against the cap. The rest of their salary still counts against the cap. So, for instance, Higgins' cap hit is normally $2.5M. However, because he is in the minors, the Canucks are incurring a $1.55M hit against their cap.

Not sure if that clears things up or not...

- nucks_94


Ahhhh sh!t ok, that makes sense
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
I also know a few times this year I went to General Fanager and found Canucks and a few teams over the cap . When asked GF said it was under emergency call up. Many days this year Canucks were over the cap
- VANTEL

I thought players can be retroactively put on LTIR. Sbisa and Sutter should qualify. That will give some cap relief. This where Gilman was at his best.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
I thought players can be retroactively put on LTIR. Sbisa and Sutter should qualify. That will give some cap relief. This where Gilman was at his best.
- Linden_4_Capt


Yeah. It seems like they have someone at the helm who knows how to play the numbers as we sit and scratch our heads
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 3 @ 10:40 AM ET
The way i see it, when the entire team was healthy at the start of the season, i.e with Sutter and Hamhuis playing (7.8 cap hit), we were cap compliant with the likes of Higgins and Prust in the line-up (5Mill).

Now, somehow we are 2.5 million (?) over the cap and yet we replaced both Higgins and Prust with cheaper options (Vey, Etem and Biega) that still comes out cheaper then the above two players at half their salary...?

- Whiskey-Tango

I don't like math problems.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 3 @ 10:51 AM ET
If the draft was today we would be drafting 7 th and taking a Finnish or Russian Dman
- VANTEL

its almost pointless to take a dman because they wont be ready for 2-3 years. we need you young guys that can play now. I hope we end up with the russian if were taking a dman top 10. Id also hope we can get Kale Clague in the 2nd and sean day in the 3rd.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 3 @ 10:52 AM ET
Yeah. It seems like they have someone at the helm who knows how to play the numbers as we sit and scratch our heads
- VANTEL

Maybe Carol will clear up any confusion with the next blog.
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