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arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:31 AM ET
What if RJ retires? Guy has to feel somewhat done or embarrassed not scoring for a full year. I know the money is on the table, but if we keep RJ next year, you think he has to know we have no issue sitting an aging veteran worth that cap night in and night out.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
They are sellers, it's february. Their sellers
- Just5


You've got to think that Streit is on his way out with the emergence of Ghost. Only way he stays is if they want to keep him for leadership and to mentor the d men coming up. Otherwise, i think he could fetch a pretty good haul in a pick or prospects.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
so Neuvirth out 7-10 days now
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
Neuvy out 7-10 days..LBI
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
You've got to think that Streit is on his way out with the emergence of Ghost. Only way he stays is if they want to keep him for leadership and to mentor the d men coming up. Otherwise, i think he could fetch a pretty good haul in a pick or prospects.
- Hextall271


People keep saying Streit needs to possibly mentor but what's wrong with MDZ as a mentor? He's taken tremendous strides this season as establishing himself as our lead D-Man imho. I think he has enough years under his belt to tell these kids a thing or two.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
Neuvy out 7-10 days..LBI
- Hextall271


so leight bro

EDIT: someone else have the Bleacher Report Team Stream app?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
If the MDZ-ghost pair is working. Which I still have my doubts about that, but why not dress medvedev to pair with gudas?
- Just5


I think Hak made the right call splitting up Ghost and Medvedev since they were all over the place, but I agree that Medvedev-Gudas makes a lot of sense if Ghost is going to stay with MDZ.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 2 @ 9:35 AM ET
What if RJ retires? Guy has to feel somewhat done or embarrassed not scoring for a full year. I know the money is on the table, but if we keep RJ next year, you think he has to know we have no issue sitting an aging veteran worth that cap night in and night out.
- arichardson22



I think he would only be a 13-14 forward next season. You have to start taking steps forward and the Phantoms do have guys that fit into a bottom 6 roll. Bardreau, Leier, Martel, Cousins and Laughton all can play in the bottom 6 and fill some rolls. I think the Flyers have to start trying to get some guys on ELC into the lineup so they can use money elsewhere(top line scoring winger, 2nd line playmaker)
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:38 AM ET
$1.5m in dead space for 17-18 will not be an issue. An Umberger buyout would allow the Flyers to upgrade their top 6 for 16-17 and I'll be surprised if Hextall doesn't take advantage of it.
- Feanor


No doubt the Flyers could handle it, but what kind of upgrade are we talking about, and is that upgrade going to have such an effect on next year's team, to be worth carrying that dead cap space in 17-18?
Can they not use that cap space gained by not having the dead cap space to improve the team in 17/18 when the team is further along in the retooling of the roster?

I don't know what Hextall is going to do.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:38 AM ET
I think he would only be a 13-14 forward next season. You have to start taking steps forward and the Phantoms do have guys that fit into a bottom 6 roll. Bardreau, Leier, Martel, Cousins and Laughton all can play in the bottom 6 and fill some rolls. I think the Flyers have to start trying to get some guys on ELC into the lineup so they can use money elsewhere(top line scoring winger, 2nd line playmaker)
- J35Bacher


I agree completely. It's just we have youngsters knocking on the door (Cousins, Straka, Leier) that I want to see get a consistent look. Plus if we decide to hang onto Weal after this year he adds to the mix. And say we do get a top 5 pick and select one of the more talented wingers, we have that prospect to add. And who knows what Konecny will do in camp next year. Gotta make room for the young guys sometime. And i didn't even mention our d prospects
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:39 AM ET
I would say that is more a product of the bottom 6 not producing. I think Manning does his job and role well.
- J35Bacher


Only if his job is to take the easiest minutes on the defense after Ghost and accomplish nothing with them. Manning's ice time has been evenly divided between the top 6 and bottom 6 forwards. He just doesn't have enough skill to produce offense at the NHL level.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2015-16&sit=5v5
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
What if RJ retires?
- arichardson22


Yeah, what if he gives up $4,500,000 for no reason.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
Only if his job is to take the easiest minutes on the defense after Ghost and accomplish nothing with them. Manning's ice time has been evenly divided between the top 6 and bottom 6 forwards. He just doesn't have enough skill to produce offense at the NHL level.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2015-16&sit=5v5

- Feanor


to be fair, this is only his first NHL season. hard to say definitively he doesn't have the skill to produce at this level, though the cards do seem stacked against him
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 9:43 AM ET
You've got to think that Streit is on his way out with the emergence of Ghost. Only way he stays is if they want to keep him for leadership and to mentor the d men coming up. Otherwise, i think he could fetch a pretty good haul in a pick or prospects.
- Hextall271


I would be actively shopping him too. He doesn't have many more chances at a Cup run and he can help a playoff team on the bottom pairing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
to be fair, this is only his first NHL season. hard to say definitively he doesn't have the skill to produce at this level, though the cards do seem stacked against him
- funmaster18



Manning is what he is. He's a 6/7 depth defenseman in this league at best.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
hopefully its just to let kid collect his thoughts....I can't see sitting a young player for Umberger either....If its more then a game, get him back to Lehigh Valley
- landros 2

I have no prob with Laughton getting a game off, my problem is wasting a lineup spot on RJ
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
You've got to think that Streit is on his way out with the emergence of Ghost. Only way he stays is if they want to keep him for leadership and to mentor the d men coming up. Otherwise, i think he could fetch a pretty good haul in a pick or prospects.
- Hextall271



I thought he would play better coming back. Hope he has a great February so if they move him he has big value to a playoff team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
I have no prob with Laughton getting a game off, my problem is wasting a lineup spot on RJ
- BiggE



Who should they replace Umberger with, Weal?

Titanic -chairs
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
You've got to think that Streit is on his way out with the emergence of Ghost. Only way he stays is if they want to keep him for leadership and to mentor the d men coming up. Otherwise, i think he could fetch a pretty good haul in a pick or prospects.
- Hextall271

Hextall would be foolish to not cash in on Streit now. They will have money to sign a vet D presence for next year if they feel the need to do so. Get another 1st and make some noise this draft.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
Streit to the yotes for a 2nd, 3rd, and a cap dump.

Get er done Hexy
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
Are they going to start Mase every game till Neuvirth is fit, including the back to back games this weekend?

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
Who should they replace Umberger with, Weal?

Titanic -chairs

- MJL

We know Umberger is shot. Any of the following would be an upgrade: Weal, Cousins, Leier etc... They are not a contender this season, it makes no sense keeping a 33 year old has been in the lineup
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
Hextall would be foolish to not cash in on Streit now. They will have money to sign a vet D presence for next year if they feel the need to do so. Get another 1st and make some noise this draft.
- hereticpride



I'd be surprised if they could get a first for Streit.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
Are they going to start Mase every game till Neuvirth is fit, including the back to back games this weekend?
- Feanor


How is Stolarz doing? Would they bring him up if the back up is actually going to play? or would they being up Labarera and park him on the bench until Neuvy is back?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
Are they going to start Mase every game till Neuvirth is fit, including the back to back games this weekend?
- Feanor

Well, at least until he gets hurt....
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