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Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:40 PM ET
Why are you demoting JV and Mccann?
- CanuckDon

JV and JM need to develop chemistry. There no way to do that with the current system. JM is not a 4th line C. Neither one of them are 4th line players. So having them on nucks and getting 4th line minutes is not productive. Have then in Utica and playing top line at over 18mins per game will boost their confidence and develop that chemistry. We need that secondary scoring line. JM is a shoot first center. JV is a physical bruiser that will create space and Shink is a shooter. Develop that line for future 2/3 line will have more value then keeping them in NHL.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:43 PM ET
JV and JM need to develop chemistry. There no way to do that with the current system. JM is not a 4th line C. Neither one of them are 4th line players. So having them on nucks and getting 4th line minutes is not productive. Have then in Utica and playing top line at over 18mins per game will boost their confidence and develop that chemistry. We need that secondary scoring line. JM is a shoot first center. JV is a physical bruiser that will create space and Shink is a shooter. Develop that line for future 2/3 line will have more value then keeping them in NHL.
- Linden_4_Capt


Tell this to Horvat...seemed to workout for him. Next year JV and Mcann graduate to the 3rd/2nd line
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:45 PM ET
JV and JM need to develop chemistry. There no way to do that with the current system. JM is not a 4th line C. Neither one of them are 4th line players. So having them on nucks and getting 4th line minutes is not productive. Have then in Utica and playing top line at over 18mins per game will boost their confidence and develop that chemistry. We need that secondary scoring line. JM is a shoot first center. JV is a physical bruiser that will create space and Shink is a shooter. Develop that line for future 2/3 line will have more value then keeping them in NHL.
- Linden_4_Capt


Horvats points last year were gained on the 4th with Dorsett and Kenins. Why do JV and JM need to get chemistry together? Their development should not be based on the fact that they NEED to build chemistry as a pair?
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:46 PM ET
So basically you want to have the exact same year next year as we are having this year.
- Codes1087

Unless you can move Burr there is no one else that makes sense to move atm. And for D pairing, it does not matter what your take is on Edler and Tanev, it does not change the fact that they are our top paring. No team will take either of them for a top 2 from their team. This year UFA has Lovejoy and Benn available. Sign both for 2*2.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:52 PM ET
Horvats points last year were gained on the 4th with Dorsett and Kenins. Why do JV and JM need to get chemistry together? Their development should not be based on the fact that they NEED to build chemistry as a pair?
- Codes1087

So you would rather keep JM up to play 4th line? We have said this time and again that JM needs quality players to function well. Dorsett is not that. Our C depth is Sedin, Sutter, Bo, Vey, JM. if we put Sutter on the wing then we can squeeze JM on the 4th. I would rather get someone like Hudler, Gaustad, Trevor Lewis there then JM.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:52 PM ET
Unless you can move Burr there is no one else that makes sense to move atm. And for D pairing, it does not matter what your take is on Edler and Tanev, it does not change the fact that they are our top paring. No team will take either of them for a top 2 from their team. This year UFA has Lovejoy and Benn available. Sign both for 2*2.
- Linden_4_Capt


There is no room for Benn. We still have to add one Biega
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:54 PM ET
So you would rather keep JM up to play 4th line? We have said this time and again that JM needs quality players to function well. Dorsett is not that. Our C depth is Sedin, Sutter, Bo, Vey, JM. if we put Sutter on the wing then we can squeeze JM on the 4th. I would rather get someone like Hudler, Gaustad, Trevor Lewis there then JM.
- Linden_4_Capt


So you don't think Mcann will improve by next year? He won't get stronger in the summer? His development is more important than Veys. He is our third line center next year
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
PHEW... Biega signs!!!

Crisis averted.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
Tell this to Horvat...seemed to workout for him. Next year JV and Mcann graduate to the 3rd/2nd line
- CanuckDon

JM on cant get 2nd line since that is for BO. So I am assuming that you want JM on 3rd. That means Vey on 4th. Do you really think that is the wisest decision in current state of Western conference? JV is still very green. Yes he hits but more often then not he is lost because he is too focused on hitting and not playing. He needs time. Remember, he is just a kid and any mistake in Vancouver the media will crush him. Goat medal? Power forwards take time to develop. We have time. This team is nowhere near ready to make the playoffs, let alone compete in it. So why not we use this time to develop him properly. Give him the 18+ mins and teach him the game the right way.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
JM on cant get 2nd line since that is for BO. So I am assuming that you want JM on 3rd. That means Vey on 4th. Do you really think that is the wisest decision in current state of Western conference? JV is still very green. Yes he hits but more often then not he is lost because he is too focused on hitting and not playing. He needs time. Remember, he is just a kid and any mistake in Vancouver the media will crush him. Goat medal? Power forwards take time to develop. We have time. This team is nowhere near ready to make the playoffs, let alone compete in it. So why not we use this time to develop him properly. Give him the 18+ mins and teach him the game the right way.
- Linden_4_Capt


Again...who cares about Vey? Chuck him on the wing or in the minors. zalewski will be 4th C next year and Mcann will be 3rd line C. I find it strange how you don't think Mcann and Virt will improve by next season. The growth and development between 19 and 20 is huge.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Feb 2 @ 2:00 PM ET



I'd way rather have the head case Kassian.


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
I'd way rather have the head case Kassian.



- classic321


Of course you would #benningsucks
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
There is no room for Benn. We still have to add one Biega
- CanuckDon

Beiga is a 27yo rookie that has not played 50 games yet in NHL. We are looking at penciling in a 27yo as the savior for our D. All I am saying that the sample size is too small to not take a run at someone like Jodie Benn or Lovejoy. I would prefer to get both and use Biega as 7. And call up Pedan as needed.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'd way rather have the head case Kassian.



- classic321

No surprise there.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
Again...who cares about Vey? Chuck him on the wing or in the minors. zalewski will be 4th C next year and Mcann will be 3rd line C. I find it strange how you don't think Mcann and Virt will improve by next season. The growth and development between 19 and 20 is huge.
- CanuckDon

Vey is coming around.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
Again...who cares about Vey? Chuck him on the wing or in the minors. zalewski will be 4th C next year and Mcann will be 3rd line C. I find it strange how you don't think Mcann and Virt will improve by next season. The growth and development between 19 and 20 is huge.
- CanuckDon

JB and WD care about Vey. And vey has proven that with quality players he can perform. Atm he is a better C then JM.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Feb 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
Of course you would #benningsucks
- CanuckDon



Good to know that 5th round pick got us 2/3 of a NHL Season from a 31 year old.

Great Value
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
Vey is coming around.
- LordHumungous

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
Good to know that 5th round pick got us 2/3 of a NHL Season from a 31 year old.

Great Value

- classic321


it is called, quality time. and it wasn't even 1/3.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
it is called, quality time. and it wasn't even 1/3.
- hillbillydeluxe

Let's be honest... 1/3 of a season from Prust is likely more NHL games than we would have ever seen from the player taken in the 5th round. Most never make it.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
Beiga is a 27yo rookie that has not played 50 games yet in NHL. We are looking at penciling in a 27yo as the savior for our D. All I am saying that the sample size is too small to not take a run at someone like Jodie Benn or Lovejoy. I would prefer to get both and use Biega as 7. And call up Pedan as needed.
- Linden_4_Capt


Sarcasm. 2 Biegas
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
PHEW... Biega signs!!!

Crisis averted.

- As_I_See_It


Biega and his contract > Phaneuf and his contract.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
JB and WD care about Vey. And vey has proven that with quality players he can perform. Atm he is a better C then JM.
- Linden_4_Capt


I don't mind Vey. My point is JM is more important to the future of this organization. If Vey is in his way he needs to be moved to the wing or another organization
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
Good to know that 5th round pick got us 2/3 of a NHL Season from a 31 year old.

Great Value

- classic321


That 5th rounder removed a drug addict from the org...sure he could have been dumped in the minors but then he would be binging in front of the kids down there. They wanted him gone and the price was a 5th rounder. Prust was solid before the injury. Oh well move on, it's just a 5th
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
Good to know that 5th round pick got us 2/3 of a NHL Season from a 31 year old.

Great Value

- classic321

If that's what it takes to get a drugged out loogin off the team then I'm fine with it. Addition by subtraction.
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