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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:16 PM ET
What do you guys think Gudas 's value would be? He is a cheap rental and has been playing pretty well in top 4 minutes. He is a righty. I'd think I'd rather keep him as he brings some needed toughness and a right hander, but wonder if as a trading deadline pick up he could bring a 2nd+4th round pick? Or even a late round 1st (which seems like a pipe dream).

Would you consider trading him?

- Marc D


I'd keep Gudas. I don't think you can get a first for him. The value versus cost is just too good.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:19 PM ET
What do you guys think Gudas 's value would be? He is a cheap rental and has been playing pretty well in top 4 minutes. He is a righty. I'd think I'd rather keep him as he brings some needed toughness and a right hander, but wonder if as a trading deadline pick up he could bring a 2nd+4th round pick? Or even a late round 1st (which seems like a pipe dream).

Would you consider trading him?

- Marc D


I probably would not. Reason being he is a cost controlled RFA. Like you mentioned he brings a lot of the things that the flyers are sorely lacking on the back end. His neutral zone play I think is important in Haks system. He is just more valuable to the flyers than I think many other teams around the league. I think a 2 year extension is appropriate at around 2.5 mil per

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:20 PM ET
I'd keep Gudas. I don't think you can get a first for him. The value versus cost is just too good.
- MJL

I'm leaning that way too. He fills a needed role on the team, even if he struggles at times. Ideally he would play less minutes but this season in his pair with Del Zotto he has been playing a lot.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:22 PM ET
Love how a "maintenance day" turned into IR.

Well with Couturier out long term, the playoffs are now a pipe dream. Play some kids, trade some d-men for assets. And for the love of god stop playing RJ Umberger.

- PLindbergh31


did you really think this would go any differently?

that's a rhetorical question.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:24 PM ET
I probably would not. Reason being he is a cost controlled RFA. Like you mentioned he brings a lot of the things that the flyers are sorely lacking on the back end. His neutral zone play I think is important in Haks system. He is just more valuable to the flyers than I think many other teams around the league. I think a 2 year extension is appropriate at around 2.5 mil per
- Just5

What kind of deal do you see Raffl and Schenn getting?

I'd like to keep both of them but I think their next contract has to be reasonable.

I think Schenn's next deal will be tough.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:25 PM ET
did you really think this would go any differently?

that's a rhetorical question.

- hammarby31

he's getting jaw xrays>day to day with LBI>injured reserve

this one is a little wacky even for this team
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:26 PM ET
watching the skills competition replay.

the breakaway? are you (frank)ing kidding me? way to go bettman. i don't even care if he has nothing to do with this, it's still his fault.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:27 PM ET
he's getting jaw xrays>day to day with LBI>injured reserve

this one is a little wacky even for this team

- Marc D


it's safe to assume the exact opposite of whatever the initial report is, usually ending in death.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:28 PM ET
watching the skills competition replay.

the breakaway? are you (frank)ing kidding me? way to go bettman. i don't even care if he has nothing to do with this, it's still his fault.

- hammarby31

it's for the kids™
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:29 PM ET
they should have put a fake beard on burns' kid.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:29 PM ET
it's for the kids™
- Crimsoninja


yay™
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:33 PM ET
it's safe to assume the exact opposite of whatever the initial report is, usually ending in death.
- hammarby31

pronger's injury I'd never heard of before it happened to him, and I'm in medicine!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:34 PM ET
What kind of deal do you see Raffl and Schenn getting?

I'd like to keep both of them but I think their next contract has to be reasonable.

I think Schenn's next deal will be tough.

- Marc D


I don't know what they'll get, but I would give raffl maybe a $100k raise over a couple years and that's it. He's a 25 point player that plays a good 200 ft game thats not playing special teams. Not exactly doing cartwheels over that so if he wants to get paid I'd move on

Schenn will be tricky. I think your right. A lot of people share the same sentiments that I do with him. I just wouldn't give a long term contract to the guy, and I'd play hardball come negotiation time and wouldn't blink of he wants to take it to arbitration
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:36 PM ET
watching the skills competition replay.

the breakaway? are you (frank)ing kidding me? way to go bettman. i don't even care if he has nothing to do with this, it's still his fault.

- hammarby31


There's only so much you can do with a stick and a puck.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:38 PM ET
I don't know what they'll get, but I would give raffl maybe a $100k raise over a couple years and that's it. He's a 25 point player that plays a good 200 ft game thats not playing special teams. Not exactly doing cartwheels over that so if he wants to get paid I'd move on

Schenn will be tricky. I think your right. A lot of people share the same sentiments that I do with him. I just wouldn't give a long term contract to the guy, and I'd play hardball come negotiation time and wouldn't blink of he wants to take it to arbitration

- Just5

I'd be willing to give Raffl a little more then that, and you bring up a good point... he should be playing on the PK!

Schenn I think you are spot on, it may end up in arbitration.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 31 @ 1:44 PM ET
Saw the Crouturirwerer news and was like....




Thought of the top 8 of this draft and was like....

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:44 PM ET
he's getting jaw xrays>day to day with LBI>injured reserve

this one is a little wacky even for this team

- Marc D


Who reported he was getting a jaw xray? To my knowledge, it wasn't the team.

Maybe it's a muscle pull, and the player reports some soreness. Initial examinations, mri's show are inconclusive. So because the team doesn't know the extent, and a lot depends on player feedback, they label it day to day. Player undergoes treatement, and as can happen, symptoms worsen, and the player doesn't respond well to treatment, and is going to be out longer than they originally expected. Those in the medical field know how some type of injuries can progress.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
Who reported he was getting a jaw xray? To my knowledge, it wasn't the team.

Maybe it's a muscle pull, and the player reports some soreness. Initial examinations, mri's show are inconclusive. So because the team doesn't know the extent, and a lot depends on player feedback, they label it day to day. Player undergoes treatement, and as can happen, symptoms worsen, and the player doesn't respond well to treatment, and is going to be out longer than they originally expected. Those in the medical field know how some type of injuries can progress.

- MJL


Panotch is better than the team. Panotch is all knowing. God is all knowing. Panotch is thus God.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNrQpSQA-6/

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:47 PM ET
I don't know what they'll get, but I would give raffl maybe a $100k raise over a couple years and that's it. He's a 25 point player that plays a good 200 ft game thats not playing special teams. Not exactly doing cartwheels over that so if he wants to get paid I'd move on


- Just5


Not realistic. Looking at something like 1.5 to 1.75M for Raffl
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:48 PM ET
Who reported he was getting a jaw xray? To my knowledge, it wasn't the team.


- MJL

as alluded to above I think it was TimP.

the rest of it I know
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:50 PM ET
it's for the kids™
- Crimsoninja


http://www.huffingtonpost..._56a8dbe5e4b0f6b7d5445936

If you haven't seen this, please watch, this kid is adorable!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:50 PM ET
as alluded to above I think it was TimP.

the rest of it I know

- Marc D


Okay, then what makes it so wacky?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 31 @ 1:53 PM ET
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNrQpSQA-6/
- Marc D


Lounging for Laine
Chilling for Chychrun
Mexico for Matthews
Tkequila for Tkachuk
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 31 @ 1:55 PM ET
Lounging for Laine
Chilling for Chychrun
Mexico for Matthews
Tkequila for Tkachuk

- Mononoke

This is copyright infringement and therefore unacceptable











It should be Tkila for Tkachuk though
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