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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
After taking a deep data dive and studying copious amounts of numbers, I have come to the conclusion that the Flyers are more of a one line team right now.
- PhillySportsGuy

Pls look at the facts. I only acknowledge facts
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Is the rule that you can use your Equipment Manager as your emergency goalie still is use? Only in the NHL
- KINGKENZO

They're probably calling Jay Rosehill right now: "hey Jay, got good news and bad news for ya. The good news is we're signing you to an NHL deal and calling you up for the Caps game. The bad news is that you're playing goal."
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 26 @ 10:42 AM ET
Morin has crawled back to even for LHV. Very glad to hear of his improvement through this year
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
Is the rule that you can use your Equipment Manager as your emergency goalie still in effect? Only in the NHL
- KINGKENZO


There are rules, I forget the exact wording, which covers emergency goalies. I beileve they can sign a guy to a PTO prior to the game, but once the game has started they'd have to use a skater
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 10:46 AM ET
Morin has crawled back to even for LHV. Very glad to hear of his improvement through this year
- Just5


He's actually still a -1 technically. After he beat up Kodie Curran, Morin took his lunch money and a +1 from Curran.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 10:47 AM ET
Right now Tampa and NJ hold the wildcard spots. If they both win and Flyers lose they will be 10 pts behind Tampa and 9 behind NJ. Not to mention other teams they have to jump.

I know they have games in hand.

Trade deadline is Feb 29. If they are double digit pts about a week or two before the trade deadline, then I see no reason to be more a seller and look towards the future and draft. Not the playoffs.

- J35Bacher



I agree, at some point a decision needs to be made. That point in time is fast approaching. If this losing streak extends much farther, that's pretty much it, if it's not already there.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 26 @ 10:47 AM ET
After taking a deep data dive and studying copious amounts of numbers, I have come to the conclusion that the Flyers are more of a one line team right now.
- PhillySportsGuy


# numbersguy
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 26 @ 10:50 AM ET
He's actually still a -1 technically. After he beat up Kodie Curran, Morin took his lunch money and a +1 from Curran.


- jmatchett383



You know what I miss.

I know fighting has been taken out a little but man do the Flyers seem soft. Wednesday the caps will have guys like Wilson, Richards, Orlov running around and the Flyers really have none of their own.

I would love to have guys like Morin or Goulborne in the lineup. Not just to fight but to throw some weight around on the forecheck. The Flyers used to seem to bring out their best when they played in a controlled chaos type of way.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
You know what I miss.

I know fighting has been taken out a little but man do the Flyers seem soft. Wednesday the caps will have guys like Wilson, Richards, Orlov running around and the Flyers really have none of their own.

I would love to have guys like Morin or Goulborne in the lineup. Not just to fight but to throw some weight around on the forecheck. The Flyers used to seem to bring out their best when they played in a controlled chaos type of way.

- J35Bacher


I'd rather have two #1 centers like Kuz and Backstrom
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 26 @ 10:57 AM ET
I agree, at some point a decision needs to be made. That point in time is fast approaching. If this losing streak extends much farther, that's pretty much it, if it's not already there.
- MJL



I think Hextall will be very busy gauging interest at the All-Star game. I also think he will be busy at the TDL. I could see minor deals where maybe a guy like Bellemare is moved to a playoff team. I could see Medvedev moved.

Might not get much back but late round picks or maybe low level prospect. Kind of how the Ducks got Pat Maroon for Dany Syvret.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
I'd rather have two #1 centers like Kuz and Backstrom
- PhillySportsGuy



I am ok with Couturier and Giroux.

Look at the wingers those guys play with. I would like that .

I was more talking in a entertainment factor.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
I agree, at some point a decision needs to be made. That point in time is fast approaching. If this losing streak extends much farther, that's pretty much it, if it's not already there.
- MJL

We were talking about this last night at my game... Its crazy how close everyone in the league is right now. We are closer (points wise) to the last spot in the league than we are a playoff spot (as of today).

Say the wildcard spot requires 96 points (lower than last year) and we have 35 games remaining... we need to win around 23 games...

23-9-3 here on out would give us 97 points.

Thats a serious run right there.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 26 @ 11:00 AM ET
I'd rather have two #1 centers like Kuz and Backstrom
- PhillySportsGuy


Kuznetsov is kinda good, yeah.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
There are rules, I forget the exact wording, which covers emergency goalies. I beileve they can sign a guy to a PTO prior to the game, but once the game has started they'd have to use a skater
- Jsaquella

Haha, ok, at least they corrected that. It would be like running out of pitchers and being able to use the batboy
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
Kuznetsov is kinda good, yeah.
- Feanor


You could kinda see this coming on after they were eliminated in the playoffs last year. Scary to think how good they'd be with Forsberg too
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
You know what I miss.

I know fighting has been taken out a little but man do the Flyers seem soft. Wednesday the caps will have guys like Wilson, Richards, Orlov running around and the Flyers really have none of their own.

I would love to have guys like Morin or Goulborne in the lineup. Not just to fight but to throw some weight around on the forecheck. The Flyers used to seem to bring out their best when they played in a controlled chaos type of way.

- J35Bacher


They really need morin to develop into that big nasty. Having a guy like that be the backbone to the team will give them swagger. Goulbourne I think has a real chance to be a 4th line piece. He is fast, can forecheck, and can throw them. So I have to agree here.

Honestly goulbourne has a better shot at the NHL than guys like cousins, weal
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
I am ok with Couturier and Giroux.

Look at the wingers those guys play with. I would like that .

I was more talking in a entertainment factor.

- J35Bacher


I feel like guys like Wilson end up getting your team into more trouble than helping. Hasn't he been suspended a bunch of times?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
This is just my specualtion, but is there any chance Giroux takes an injury break for the ASG and gets replaced by Voracek? I feel like G could use the rest more than Jake.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
I feel like guys like Wilson end up getting your team into more trouble than helping. Hasn't he been suspended a bunch of times?
- PhillySportsGuy


Somehow he hasn't, but he takes a lot of penalties.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
You know what I miss.

I know fighting has been taken out a little but man do the Flyers seem soft. Wednesday the caps will have guys like Wilson, Richards, Orlov running around and the Flyers really have none of their own.

I would love to have guys like Morin or Goulborne in the lineup. Not just to fight but to throw some weight around on the forecheck. The Flyers used to seem to bring out their best when they played in a controlled chaos type of way.

- J35Bacher


The Mike Richards we will see will not be the Mike Richards from 07/08, or even the Mike Richards from 10/11. He played like he was 3 inches and 25 pounds heavier than he was, and it (plus possibly other factors) has taken its toll on his body.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
I feel like guys like Wilson end up getting your team into more trouble than helping. Hasn't he been suspended a bunch of times?
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't think so. Wilson can play hockey a bit to. I'd love him if he were a flyer. There's not many guys as effective as him around the league
ChoclitLeClair
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
This team should, of course, keep trying to win games, because a roster that intentionally tanks is so lacking in character and competitiveness that it will never become a winner.

That said, this team is not going to make the payoffs. Any way you slice it:

1. Bottom dwellers in scoring, power play, and penalty killing play golf, not hockey, in April.

2. Look at the teams ahead of Philly in the standings and decide which 5 are going to fall off so badly that a team with 2 fourth lines can pass them.

3. Radko Gudas is on our top pairing

Sell at the deadline, bring up the kids, and see what you've got.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 11:06 AM ET
This is just my specualtion, but is there any chance Giroux takes an injury break for the ASG and gets replaced by Voracek? I feel like G could use the rest more than Jake.
- Feanor


Doubt it. Maybe Umberger can go
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:07 AM ET
They really need morin to develop into that big nasty. Having a guy like that be the backbone to the team will give them swagger. Goulbourne I think has a real chance to be a 4th line piece. He is fast, can forecheck, and can throw them. So I have to agree here.

Honestly goulbourne has a better shot at the NHL than guys like cousins, weal

- Just5


Goulborune is a "safe" guy, as he basically is what he is and likely will never be more than a 4th line "energy" type who provides minimal offense. Cousins and Weal are guys who have a higher ceiling offensively, but are more boom or bust types.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:07 AM ET
someone entertain me I'm sitting in pharmacoecononomics for the next hour and a half
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