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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
Another one that has me excited is McLeod. He has skating that is off the charts. I read a scout comparing him to McDavid's skating, if a tick down. It's that good. He's awesome 2 way, and never has an invisible shift. Does all the little things, provides structure. Sort of like Coots (and Umberger) in that regard. Coots with (frank)ing McDavid wheels.

Dubois I like hearing about his versatility and all around play. Skating could be better I've read. But he could be a do everything forward WITH size.

Keller could be a steal that gets underrated bc of size. He's putting up crazy numbers on US develoment team. He's very young for his age, and is putting up numbers Eichel and Matthews did. Age difference between when they did it, but not much. He's a late summer birthday.

- Mononoke


McLeod also has decent size. I do think Dubois could be the sleeper that goes higher than everyone thought.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
Another one that has me excited is McLeod. He has skating that is off the charts. I read a scout comparing him to McDavid's skating, if a tick down. It's that good. He's awesome 2 way, and never has an invisible shift. Does all the little things, provides structure. Sort of like Coots (and Umberger) in that regard. Coots with (frank)ing McDavid wheels.

Dubois I like hearing about his versatility and all around play. Skating could be better I've read. But he could be a do everything forward WITH size.

Keller could be a steal that gets underrated bc of size. He's putting up crazy numbers on US develoment team. He's very young for his age, and is putting up numbers Eichel and Matthews did. Age difference between when they did it, but not much. He's a late summer birthday.

- Mononoke


Both are very, very good. Dubois also doesn't turn 18 until July I believe. He's a scary good versatile player for his age.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
If we ended up with Matthews or Laine, I'd be elated
- BiggE



Yes and no.....yes because their acceptional ...no because that means a frustrating post all star break.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:22 PM ET
I think he'd be 6th, maybe 5th.
- Jsaquella


But that's my point. I get that depth and top-tier talent don't go hand-in-hand, but some people had him going 3rd last year above Hanifin as well as Marner/Strome. So if he'd be 5th/6th this year, that actually make this year's top-end better than last year's (as it was, 7th isn't far off). Then you had guys like Crouse/Barzal/Rantanen who were anywhere from top-8 to top-20, which is exactly what this year seems like...again.

I don't mean to complain, I'm just waiting for the year where the gurus come out and say, "You know what...outside of the top-3, this draft is really weak."
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:24 PM ET
Both are very, very good. Dubois also doesn't turn 18 until July I believe. He's a scary good versatile player for his age.
- mochoson


Dubois is one of my favorites.

Another one is Jost. He's committed to UND, so Hakstol is no stranger to him. He doesn't play in CHL but lower league. He's putting up monster, record breaking numbers I believe. Center with amazing speed and a two way game. Super skilled 1 on 1 and in creativity. He's a player that if he was in the CHL might go much much higher.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
But that's my point. I get that depth and top-tier talent don't go hand-in-hand, but some people had him going 3rd last year above Hanifin as well as Marner/Strome. So if he'd be 5th/6th this year, that actually make this year's top-end better than last year's (as it was, 7th isn't far off). Then you had guys like Crouse/Barzal/Rantanen who were anywhere from top-8 to top-20, which is exactly what this year seems like...again.

I don't mean to complain, I'm just waiting for the year where the gurus come out and say, "You know what...outside of the top-3, this draft is really weak."

- jmatchett383


Check out every round of 2009 draft. Wish granted. Some steals, but all in all pretty damn weak after the top.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
Check out every round of 2008-2009 drafts. Wish granted. Some steals, but all in all pretty damn weak after the top.
- Mononoke


I agree...but they were all hyped up as being deep and chock-full of steals all over the place.

Not so much.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
McLeod also has decent size. I do think Dubois could be the sleeper that goes higher than everyone thought.
- Jsaquella


I just want to know who all the experts will have the Flyers picking because he's HUGE and plays nasty and has offensive numbers that are below expectations.

Oh my god. Guys, guys, Flyers are reaching on Logan Stanley or Logan Brown. They even are both named Logan...like Wolverine. Man, Wolverine would be a great Flyer...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
Laine has me maybe more excited than Matthews. It could be just Matthews has been bandied about a lot more and there's a tiredness to him. He will still probably go 1, and should, but Laine has monster goal and offensive potential. He could be 40 goal+ scary good. Can probably play all 3 positions, and is so smart and slick and big offensively. I'm trying to think of a comparable style, and I don't know. Tarasenko-Malkin hybrid? He's a young 17 and is dominating men in the Finnish league. He's DOUBLING the shots per game of recent top Finnish prospects. That's absurd.
- Mononoke


His shooting percentage should fit in nicely with the rest of the Flyers then
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 26 @ 4:36 PM ET





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77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Yes and no.....yes because their acceptional ...no because that means a frustrating post all star break.
- landros 2


Or a veeeery long overdue fortuitous bounce of the ping pong balls.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
His shooting percentage should fit in nicely with the rest of the Flyers then
- YuenglingJagr


He has the best shot in the draft. And as Tomahawk would say, the most underrated part about someone like Ovi is the sheer number of shots he gets off. His career shooting percent is actually only ok for the best goal scorer of his generation. Hell it's only 1% above Giroux. He just takes so many (frank)ing shots though. It's a skill in and of itself: the ability to just pound shots on net, especially in an age where shots are hard to come by, and when everyone knows it's coming.

Laine will be aight. Best shot + most shots = yum

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:47 PM ET

He has the best shot in the draft. And as Tomahawk would say, the most underrated part about someone like Ovi is the sheer number of shots he gets off. His career shooting percent is actually only ok for the best goal scorer of his generation. Hell it's only 1% above Giroux. He just takes so many (frank)ing shots though. It's a skill in and of itself: the ability to just pound shots on net, especially in an age where shots are hard to come by, and when everyone knows it's coming.

Laine will be aight.


- Mononoke


You should know that I never post anything serious after 4 pm
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
You should know that I never post anything serious after 4 pm
- YuenglingJagr


I know you were kidding. Hence the

It's just crazy what he's doing as a 17 year old. This was from a week ago or so.

https://t.co/qqkKjZuk9q
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:55 PM ET
I know you were kidding. Hence the

It's just crazy what he's doing as a 17 year old. This was from a week ago or so.

https://t.co/qqkKjZuk9q

- Mononoke


Why doesnt he have the gold helmet?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:58 PM ET
Why doesnt he have the gold helmet?
- YuenglingJagr

agreed that poop's dope
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
Why doesnt he have the gold helmet?
- YuenglingJagr


It's for the top scorer on each team
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
agreed that poop's dope
- Giroux_Is_God

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 26 @ 5:12 PM ET

- Mononoke

...looks like Gagne?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 5:19 PM ET
...looks like Gagne?
- Giroux_Is_God


Ville Leino
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 26 @ 5:22 PM ET
Ville Leino
- Mononoke

ahhh

I knew he looked familiar. Silly me.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
Why doesnt he have the gold helmet?
- YuenglingJagr


because Pyorala has it
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 6:17 PM ET
Wednesday's game will be the one year anniversary of RJ Umberger's last goal.

I think Weal showed enough to stick in the line up, even if Couturier can play. I'd try something like this if Couts can play

93-28-17
21-14-10
12/24-19/12-24/19
76-78-25

If Couturier can't go, I'd put Gagner in on that 2nd line.

- Jsaquella


Will you be having a party?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 6:19 PM ET
Will you be having a party?
- ob18

hey
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 26 @ 6:32 PM ET
hey
- Crimsoninja

hey
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