Nope sharks on the hook for Torres
- DDM-Coga

Indeed.


Just another example of the NHL playing favourites...

My opinion. You won't change it.
- KINGS67

Not trying to change it trying to understand. Opinions usually have some thought behind it so trying to understand the thought process used to form that opinion.

may not have a choice, all indications are Buff wants to test free agency. Tampa would love to get Carle off the books to help them sign everyone else. Carle only has two years left so if it helps the Jets land Drouin, taking Carle as well isn't horrible.
- Ross77

Jets have Morrissey in the system, they need a roster spot for him, and they have other young wingers like Petan and Lemieux who will be fighting for spots, I don't see the Jets needing Drouin, they need goalie upgrades not Winger or D upgrades in my mind

Not trying to change it trying to understand. Opinions usually have some thought behind it so trying to understand the thought process used to form that opinion.
- Kucherovski

Not to mention that opinions should be flexible enough to be changed with sufficient empirical evidence.

Anything otherwise is more likely a prejudice than an actual opinion...

Its not that he's small dumbass, its that he plays small in the NHL!
- TheConsiglierre

I can only imagine the sheer disappointment that you will face upon learning that my ass is indeed the smartest part of me...

Yzerman will bury him in the ahl till he gets a deal he wants! Your not going to force Steve yzermans hand any quicker
- todd1a

I agree somehwhat as I don't expect Tampa to make a move at all. I think Yzerman tells the young man and his ego maniac agent that has to go play in Syracuse and get better because we are not moving you.

But if they do move him, I can only see it where they make a package deal with Carle of some sort. The Lightning need CAP space and they have to move Carle to do that so a Drouin/Carle package is the only way I see Drouin moving. Better to keep him and his potential even if he is upset unless it helps the CAP space.

Its not that he's small dumbass, its that he plays small in the NHL!
- TheConsiglierre

Again, so do lots of highly successful players.

This is really complex. You have to know Yzerman knew exactly what he was doing. He was counting on Walsh demanding a trade. Leads me to believe that Stamkos deal is done and Yzerman is moving to get everything inside cap.

I still have no idea how the Voynov cap hit was taken off the books during his suspension... is Torres' cap hit off the books for SJS for instance?
- lumlums

he ruptured his achilles playing tennis so they were able to suspend him

This is really complex. You have to know Yzerman knew exactly what he was doing. He was counting on Walsh demanding a trade. Leads me to believe that Stamkos deal is done and Yzerman is moving to get everything inside cap.
- spatso

oh really

This is really complex. You have to know Yzerman knew exactly what he was doing. He was counting on Walsh demanding a trade. Leads me to believe that Stamkos deal is done and Yzerman is moving to get everything inside cap.
- spatso

Stamkos deal won't kick in until next season and Drouin has an $895k cap hit, Drouin won't matter in a potential Stamkos contract.

Jets have Morrissey in the system, they need a roster spot for him, and they have other young wingers like Petan and Lemieux who will be fighting for spots, I don't see the Jets needing Drouin, they need goalie upgrades not Winger or D upgrades in my mind
- DDM-Coga

Have you heard of Hellybuck, he is 22, 8-4 as a rookie with great stats, led a weak USA team to a bronze at the worlds last year, past winner of top college goalie. He is our goalie moving forward and if he stumbles I am also a big fan of Eric Comrie. I think Hockey Futures has these two both in the top 5 goalie prospects?

The Jets are good in net moving forward, Morrisey is still a year or two away. The same reason you want want him with Mac K is why I want him with Ehlers

This is really complex. You have to know Yzerman knew exactly what he was doing. He was counting on Walsh demanding a trade. Leads me to believe that Stamkos deal is done and Yzerman is moving to get everything inside cap.
- spatso

Things are often simpler than they seem.

Things are often always simpler than they seem.
- ehabs9

Agree. Drouin is not top 6 NHL ready at this moment, maybe ever. So far all Drouin has done is get drafted 3rd overall and be young so has some interest in his future.

He asked for it in November, great hands and moves but is a turnover machine, he thinks he can play like he did in Juniors but you can't always use those moves in the NHL. Too bad he can't stay in the lineup between injuries and his defensive play. Would have loved to see him as a playmaker for Stammer. He has flashes of what he's capable of but just hasn't been consistent enough.

This is really complex. You have to know Yzerman knew exactly what he was doing. He was counting on Walsh demanding a trade. Leads me to believe that Stamkos deal is done and Yzerman is moving to get everything inside cap.
- spatso

Stamkos is more gone from Tampa than Drouin is

Have you heard of Hellybuck, he is 22, 8-4 as a rookie with great stats, led a weak USA team to a bronze at the worlds last year, past winner of top college goalie. He is our goalie moving forward and if he stumbles I am also a big fan of Eric Comrie. I think Hockey Futures has these two both in the top 5 goalie prospects?

The Jets are good in net moving forward, Morrisey is still a year or two away. The same reason you want want him with Mac K is why I want him with Ehlers
- Ross77

Hellybuck is fine, and Comrie is a long ways out. Jets will be spinning their tires still if they just go with a young unproven Goalie tandem.

Look at the Ducks, they had "2 of the top goalie prospects" at one time in Gibson and anderson and they are still struggling. Jets have good prospects in the system, but to think that goalies that are under 23 are going to bring them deep into the playoffs is a bit naive,

Jets need to upgrade Pavs so they can bring along Hellybuck correctly, since he will stumble, it happens with all young goals, then once hes ready for 1G duties, they can potential do the same for Comrie in a few years.

Agree. Drouin is not top 6 NHL ready at this moment, maybe ever. So far all Drouin has done is get drafted 3rd overall and be young so has some interest in his future.
- Kucherovski

He was also leading your team in Pts/60 5v5 just a few weeks ago. He's not hit his potential yet, but he is absolutely deserving of an NHL spot

He asked for it in November, great hands and moves but is a turnover machine, he thinks he can play like he did in Juniors but you can't always use those moves in the NHL. Too bad he can't stay in the lineup between injuries and his defensive play. Would have loved to see him as a playmaker for Stammer. He has flashes of what he's capable of but just hasn't been consistent enough.
- tpd11

Stats in the Q are often deceiving,

He was also leading your team in Pts/60 5v5 just a few weeks ago. He's not hit his potential yet, but he is absolutely deserving of an NHL spot
- lumlums

He isn't that great, way too many turnovers. Point to whatever "stat" you want he was drafted to be top 6 but, at this point, isn't close to top 6. Great hands and great speed but that's it, doesn't seem to play with a lot of heart and makes poor decisions.

This is not unlike Turris situation with Pheonix. But, Yzerman will play it better. He will move Drouin quickly before his value totally tanks. My guess is he already has a good deal already lined up.

He isn't that great, way too many turnovers. Point to whatever "stat" you want he was drafted to be top 6 but, at this point, isn't close to top 6. Great hands and great speed but that's it, doesn't seem to play with a lot of heart and makes poor decisions.
- Kucherovski

The heart and decision making can be taught with good coaching and some trust... those hands cannot. I'd quite happily take him on the Leafs

The heart and decision making can be taught with good coaching and some trust... those hands cannot. I'd quite happily take him on the Leafs
- lumlums

The Leafs should be in on this for sure, whether Y wants to move him to Toronto or not is anyone's guess but he's exactly what the Leafs are looking for

Hellybuck is fine, and Comrie is a long ways out. Jets will be spinning their tires still if they just go with a young unproven Goalie tandem.

Look at the Ducks, they had "2 of the top goalie prospects" at one time in Gibson and anderson and they are still struggling. Jets have good prospects in the system, but to think that goalies that are under 23 are going to bring them deep into the playoffs is a bit naive,

Jets need to upgrade Pavs so they can bring along Hellybuck correctly, since he will stumble, it happens with all young goals, then once hes ready for 1G duties, they can potential do the same for Comrie in a few years.
- DDM-Coga

I hear what your saying but we have Pav for another year and cant see anyone else taking him so we are stuck with him, that gives Helly another year of less pressure and then can be our full time starter at 24

The heart and decision making can be taught with good coaching and some trust... those hands cannot. I'd quite happily take him on the Leafs
- lumlums

I'd happily swap Pouliot for him, and I'm a huge Derek Pouliot fan. Both have good advanced stats, both have some time in the NHL. Both were/are highly touted prospects. DP will be a top great PP quarterback sooner than later.