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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 31 @ 6:35 AM ET
Hi Jan

We have problems in Vancouver too. We're trying to get younger and remain competitive at the same time.

I hear you're not happy with some of your RFAs. Pretend for a moment you've been summoned to GM the blueshirt because they really wanna shake things up. Perhaps some players who have gone to a cup final with AV before could really get you over the hump? Do any of our players interest you, what deals would you make with Vancouver?

- Max.Betts

Vrbata or Horvat are nice pieces.
Dundee13
New York Rangers
Joined: 08.12.2014

Dec 31 @ 8:14 AM ET
no offense Jan but you sound like the Blogger who start to get close to the edge ready to jump at a moments notice....

1st serious level or breach of the system since A V
systematically call on the carpet all parts in question of the A game or" bringin it"
I M O i see a top cup contender w/depth to work with ....
gonna find our game again & start a roll into the March..

NO then we will be proactive in trading assets for the compliment piece needed
NEED: top 3-6 winger to pick up MSL's goals ....

Trade from either K Y or Klein + Fast or LInberg + darft pick or prospect...
should procure a top eichelon scorer 2way type ... may be a top center (Staal)

navigating thru the marathon of a season ..well it s 1/2 the battle , the other 1/2 is the 2 month P O tourney ..

all teams suffering w/ mid season holiday woes.... Caps took big hit with
Beagle done w/surgery,Backstrom iffy Carlson out....
washingtons turn in the proverbial barrel..lets see if / when they flat line ?

in retrospect ...if we had to go flat ... better now & find the character to catapult this group into the honed fightin machine it has & can be ...

dont give up the ship Jan & start tie "rebuild as u coined it "
this aint fantasy poop , we will come out shining from this ..let the players respond to A Vs challenge & move the needle accordingly....
L G R great boounce ,in T B 4th line had sum jump Krieds looked silly on 3rd line but played better .... L G R keep the build of momentum into 2016.....L G R
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Dec 31 @ 8:19 AM ET
no offense Jan but you sound like the Blogger who start to get close to the edge ready to jump at a moments notice....

1st serious level or breach of the system since A V
systematically call on the carpet all parts in question of the A game or" bringin it"
I M O i see a top cup contender w/depth to work with ....
gonna find our game again & start a roll into the March..

NO then we will be proactive in trading assets for the compliment piece needed
NEED: top 3-6 winger to pick up MSL's goals ....

Trade from either K Y or Klein + Fast or LInberg + darft pick or prospect...
should procure a top eichelon scorer 2way type ... may be a top center (Staal)

navigating thru the marathon of a season ..well it s 1/2 the battle , the other 1/2 is the 2 month P O tourney ..

all teams suffering w/ mid season holiday woes.... Caps took big hit with
Beagle done w/surgery,Backstrom iffy Carlson out....
washingtons turn in the proverbial barrel..lets see if / when they flat line ?

in retrospect ...if we had to go flat ... better now & find the character to catapult this group into the honed fightin machine it has & can be ...

dont give up the ship Jan & start tie "rebuild as u coined it "
this aint fantasy poop , we will come out shining from this ..let the players respond to A Vs challenge & move the needle accordingly....
L G R great boounce ,in T B 4th line had sum jump Krieds looked silly on 3rd line but played better .... L G R keep the build of momentum into 2016.....L G R

- Dundee13


Good job, my friend. Very level headed. I hope you are right.

I do, however, think that Jan's current analysis of the teams play was spot-on.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 31 @ 8:27 AM ET
Trade Nash? Aside from his bloated contract, considering what we might get back plus the fact that we would have to eat some of his contract, Im not totally sure if it would be worth it.

Yandle is gone after this year regardless whether we trade him or not.

Trade Moore? I wouldnt, hes an excellent bottom 6 guy.

I would trade Kreider. Hes not going to turn into the guy that everyone here is dreaming about. Hes not the guy, and he never will be. Trade him while hes still got some value.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 31 @ 8:37 AM ET
no offense Jan but you sound like the Blogger who start to get close to the edge ready to jump at a moments notice....

1st serious level or breach of the system since A V
systematically call on the carpet all parts in question of the A game or" bringin it"
I M O i see a top cup contender w/depth to work with ....
gonna find our game again & start a roll into the March..

NO then we will be proactive in trading assets for the compliment piece needed
NEED: top 3-6 winger to pick up MSL's goals ....

Trade from either K Y or Klein + Fast or LInberg + darft pick or prospect...
should procure a top eichelon scorer 2way type ... may be a top center (Staal)

navigating thru the marathon of a season ..well it s 1/2 the battle , the other 1/2 is the 2 month P O tourney ..

all teams suffering w/ mid season holiday woes.... Caps took big hit with
Beagle done w/surgery,Backstrom iffy Carlson out....
washingtons turn in the proverbial barrel..lets see if / when they flat line ?

in retrospect ...if we had to go flat ... better now & find the character to catapult this group into the honed fightin machine it has & can be ...

dont give up the ship Jan & start tie "rebuild as u coined it "
this aint fantasy poop , we will come out shining from this ..let the players respond to A Vs challenge & move the needle accordingly....
L G R great boounce ,in T B 4th line had sum jump Krieds looked silly on 3rd line but played better .... L G R keep the build of momentum into 2016.....L G R

- Dundee13

Great post, Dundee
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 31 @ 8:41 AM ET
Not in years. Worked with a guy from Linden who took me there and Big Stashe. That place still there?
- Fenrir



Last time I was up there it was. Great place for lunch.




MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

Dec 31 @ 8:58 AM ET
Great post, Dundee
- 21peter

man i've been away for a while an Dundee learned to type properly! and agreed very good post!
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 31 @ 9:09 AM ET
no offense Jan but you sound like the Blogger who start to get close to the edge ready to jump at a moments notice....

1st serious level or breach of the system since A V
systematically call on the carpet all parts in question of the A game or" bringin it"
I M O i see a top cup contender w/depth to work with ....
gonna find our game again & start a roll into the March..

NO then we will be proactive in trading assets for the compliment piece needed
NEED: top 3-6 winger to pick up MSL's goals ....

Trade from either K Y or Klein + Fast or LInberg + darft pick or prospect...
should procure a top eichelon scorer 2way type ... may be a top center (Staal)

navigating thru the marathon of a season ..well it s 1/2 the battle , the other 1/2 is the 2 month P O tourney ..

all teams suffering w/ mid season holiday woes.... Caps took big hit with
Beagle done w/surgery,Backstrom iffy Carlson out....
washingtons turn in the proverbial barrel..lets see if / when they flat line ?

in retrospect ...if we had to go flat ... better now & find the character to catapult this group into the honed fightin machine it has & can be ...

dont give up the ship Jan & start tie "rebuild as u coined it "
this aint fantasy poop , we will come out shining from this ..let the players respond to A Vs challenge & move the needle accordingly....
L G R great boounce ,in T B 4th line had sum jump Krieds looked silly on 3rd line but played better .... L G R keep the build of momentum into 2016.....L G R

- Dundee13


I said if play continued as it did, then they would have to think about blowing it up. "I am not about to start the trade speculation hype though I know it's begun. Deal Nash. Deal Yandle and Moore, though this one seems surly likely to occur, especially if things goes further south. Sign Stamkos, because having a $9-10 mil player who also doesn't always show up nightly makes a ton of sense (sarcasm dripping). "

All the above was speculation if things continued to go south, not to say trades were imminent. South meaning for a continued extended period of time. I still stand by everything I wrote, as all the issues I mentioned have been prevalent for a while. That doesn't mean they aren't correctable, but we hadn't much progress there.

Maybe the last two out of the three games played are a sign of good things to come in 2016. My job is not to sugarcoat of just have my Rangers fandom glasses on. It's to call out bad play and issues that aren't being fixed. Similarly, if they are playing well, iI will report that and am much happier to do so and write about that.

Dundee, I agree with all you wrote and don't expect a tear down. I was writing one could occur if things continue to go poorly. If their play against Anaheim and YB continues, then they will be aggressive as usual to make acquisitions in the trade market.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 31 @ 9:11 AM ET
So the Rangers decided to play defense and looked what happened? Not saying this is the top team in the league but they are contenders. Just need to keep fighting out of this funk
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 31 @ 9:18 AM ET
So the Rangers decided to play defense and looked what happened? Not saying this is the top team in the league but they are contenders. Just need to keep fighting out of this funk
- TPC



After Kreider missed his 2 on 1 last night, you disappeared.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 31 @ 9:20 AM ET
After Kreider missed his 2 on 1 last night, you disappeared.
- mdw7413

Not much else to talk about, Rangers scored 2 empty netters and it was over
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 31 @ 9:22 AM ET
Not much else to talk about, Rangers scored 2 empty netters and it was over
- TPC



I was joking.

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 31 @ 9:23 AM ET
I was joking.
- mdw7413

Yea I know

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 31 @ 9:34 AM ET
I said if play continued as it did, then they would have to think about blowing it up. "I am not about to start the trade speculation hype though I know it's begun. Deal Nash. Deal Yandle and Moore, though this one seems surly likely to occur, especially if things goes further south. Sign Stamkos, because having a $9-10 mil player who also doesn't always show up nightly makes a ton of sense (sarcasm dripping). "

All the above was speculation if things continued to go south, not to say trades were imminent. South meaning for a continued extended period of time. I still stand by everything I wrote, as all the issues I mentioned have been prevalent for a while. That doesn't mean they aren't correctable, but we hadn't much progress there.

Maybe the last two out of the three games played are a sign of good things to come in 2016. My job is not to sugarcoat of just have my Rangers fandom glasses on. It's to call out bad play and issues that aren't being fixed. Similarly, if they are playing well, iI will report that and am much happier to do so and write about that.

Dundee, I agree with all you wrote and don't expect a tear down. I was writing one could occur if things continue to go poorly. If their play against Anaheim and YB continues, then they will be aggressive as usual to make acquisitions in the trade market.

- airjan23


I think dundee is correct in that we need to see how this plays out for a bit more. Basically said the same thing the other day. I would give them till the end of January.

Also think you are right Jan, people forget you do recaps of the games and you are writing about how bad/good they played in the previous game.

I'm glad you are not some homer blogger who thinks the Rangers can do no wrong and everything is rainbows & puppies.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 31 @ 9:36 AM ET
Yea I know
- TPC



Rangers should make chewbacca their new goal horn. She is good luck
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 31 @ 9:37 AM ET
Rangers should make chewbacca their new goal horn. She is good luck
- mdw7413

That video is so wrong
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 31 @ 9:37 AM ET
I think dundee is correct in that we need to see how this plays out for a bit more. Basically said the same thing the other day. I would give them till the end of January.

Also think you are right Jan, people forget you do recaps of the games and you are writing about how bad/good they played in the previous game.

I'm glad you are not some homer blogger who thinks the Rangers can do no wrong and everything is rainbows & puppies.

- mdw7413

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 31 @ 10:01 AM ET
I have bashed him pretty good but last night was probably one of Yandle's best games as a Ranger.

Trade value just jumped a bit
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 31 @ 10:08 AM ET
I think dundee is correct in that we need to see how this plays out for a bit more. Basically said the same thing the other day. I would give them till the end of January.

Also think you are right Jan, people forget you do recaps of the games and you are writing about how bad/good they played in the previous game.

I'm glad you are not some homer blogger who thinks the Rangers can do no wrong and everything is rainbows & puppies.

- mdw7413

Agreed, thought I had put it in the blog, but I felt that if by the end of January, it hadn't turned back positively, then a change could occur.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 31 @ 10:09 AM ET
Chris Kreider is a RFA once the year is over... what do you do?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 31 @ 10:17 AM ET
Chris Kreider is a RFA once the year is over... what do you do?
- aecliptic


I think they'll offer him a 10% raise as a qualifier and then he is probably going to go to arbitration
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 31 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think they'll offer him a 10% raise as a qualifier and then he is probably going to go to arbitration
- jimbro83


I dont think they should even waste their time with it. Trade him

____

I dont remember how long ago I made this... maybe 3 years ago?



Still looks good on him.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Dec 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
I dont think they should even waste their time with it. Trade him

____

I dont remember how long ago I made this... maybe 3 years ago?



Still looks good on him.

- aecliptic

didnt sather say there was a deal almost set for a package of gaborik, del zotto and a few other for stamkos some time during his rookie year?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
didnt sather say there was a deal almost set for a package of gaborik, del zotto and a few other for stamkos some time during his rookie year?
- NYRangers1124

The Lightning were told to pick two or three from a wish list that featured Michael Del Zotto, Evgeny Grachev, Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky and Dan Girardi.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
The Lightning were told to pick two or three from a wish list that featured Michael Del Zotto, Evgeny Grachev, Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky and Dan Girardi.
- rangerdanger94


here is that story

http://nypost.com/2010/04...ad-done-deal-for-stamkos/
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