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pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Dec 27 @ 1:16 PM ET
Exactly!!!! Keep Russell widman has to go
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 27 @ 1:17 PM ET
What are you offering? maybe a 3 way trade can be worked out.
To Montreal: Vrbata, Duchene
To Vancouver: Emelin, smoked meat sandwich from Schwartz's
To Colorado: Plekanec, Tinordi, Smoked meat poutine, 3rd round pick

- Darksyde


tough but fair
conkey
Location: except it, NS
Joined: 09.06.2011

Dec 27 @ 1:18 PM ET
Not sure why the Sharks would be interested in Kasson
Also could someone explain EK putting (e3) or (e4) by hisrumours what does this stand for / mean ?

- HamiltonHawk

absolutely nothing.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 27 @ 1:20 PM ET
absolutely nothing.
- conkey

newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Dec 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
First of all, Calgary isn't giving up Gio Or Hamilton plus something else to land Johansen.

What, the guy has 1 good year & now he's worth a ton - lol, give me break. You want Gio, you'll pay royally - it would be the Jackets adding pieces plus Ryan to make it happen.

Anyways, these rumors are all bullpoop anyways because the Flames have 4 solid d-men & you need them to win - plain & simple. If Columbus wants something from the Flames, it's not going to happen.
M*A*S*H
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.05.2006

Dec 27 @ 2:30 PM ET
I think many can agree of the potential RYJO possesses. But being that he has not reached it yet, he wont fetch nearly as much as the Jackets are hoping. But Im being cynical. I know there will be a team that overpays.
As a Flames fan, I am glad we are in this.

My offer
Russell, Poirer and a 3rd for RYJO and a 4th. The 3rd can turn into a 2nd if Russell resigns
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Dec 27 @ 2:35 PM ET
As much as johanson is a good young Center. Bennett might turn out to be a better young Center!!!! I could see backland widman + a young D like wortherspoon..we can't gain a Center without loosing one at this point.
- pzoxic

Jesus (frank)in Christ. You aren't getting a big franchise center for that. Get your head out of your ass!
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Dec 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
(frank)ing idiot Oiler fan, Bennett Wideman & a 1st

If Calgary offered Bennett straight up Columbus should jump all over it. Not sure why Calgary would be so hot & heavy on Johansen. But the guy that's cheap & seems to have caught the eye of the Jackets is Russell, yeah add Backlund & you may have to add Kylington or Andersen. Just not sure why we would want Johansen.

- Kevin R

Cause he would be the be the best player on your team???
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Dec 27 @ 3:10 PM ET
Cause he would be the be the best player on your team???
- Ihatebrianburke



Not better than JH, Gio or Brodie and probably not better than Monahan. RJ has baggage. Apparently he had a heart issue in the summer and has not been the same player this year. I hope the Flames stay away on this one. Too risky.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
(frank)ing idiot Oiler fan, Bennett Wideman & a 1st

If Calgary offered Bennett straight up Columbus should jump all over it. Not sure why Calgary would be so hot & heavy on Johansen. But the guy that's cheap & seems to have caught the eye of the Jackets is Russell, yeah add Backlund & you may have to add Kylington or Andersen. Just not sure why we would want Johansen.

- Kevin R

Yes of course, oiler fans are idiots.

But u offer Russell, a bottom 6 forward and a prospect
For a young number 1c.

I'm sure they'll jump all over that.
While we're at it, u wanna trade me a 100$ dollar bill for 2 twenties and a ten?


And u can love Bennett all u want and maybe he will be better, but johansen is the superior player today by a lot.
He's 6'3, 220 and has seasons of 63 and 71 already. And is on pace for almost 70 again. And he's only 23.
So don't start espousing Bennett as a superstar and anyone who doesn't know it is an idiot. Flames fans who watch him all the time probably see his potential, and that's fine. But it's not like he's some household name that's worth whatever superstar u want.


So you wanna be the pot or the kettle?
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Dec 27 @ 3:39 PM ET

- DDM-Coga

SAY IT AGAIN
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Dec 27 @ 3:44 PM ET
I'm still trying to figure out why Columbus hired Torts
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 27 @ 3:53 PM ET
Vrbata for Tinordi and a third. We need D ( even if he is not that good)
- VANTEL


That might happen. Don't know if Vancouver would want more.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 27 @ 4:30 PM ET
Habs gave him 1 chance..and he didn't even get past pre-season....classy, like trading Cammy in between periods
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:49 PM ET
Habs gave him 1 chance..and he didn't even get past pre-season....classy, like trading Cammy in between periods
- Garnie


He actually was sniffing cocaine with Bergevin and Therrien.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 27 @ 4:50 PM ET
He actually was sniffing cocaine with Bergevin and Therrien.
- Habsody



they knew what they traded for...I doubt the accident was shocking.
redsfanhere
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: columbus, OH
Joined: 02.17.2012

Dec 27 @ 4:59 PM ET
Yes of course, oiler fans are idiots.

But u offer Russell, a bottom 6 forward and a prospect
For a young number 1c.

I'm sure they'll jump all over that.
While we're at it, u wanna trade me a 100$ dollar bill for 2 twenties and a ten?


And u can love Bennett all u want and maybe he will be better, but johansen is the superior player today by a lot.
He's 6'3, 220 and has seasons of 63 and 71 already. And is on pace for almost 70 again. And he's only 23.
So don't start espousing Bennett as a superstar and anyone who doesn't know it is an idiot. Flames fans who watch him all the time probably see his potential, and that's fine. But it's not like he's some household name that's worth whatever superstar u want.


So you wanna be the pot or the kettle?

- HB77

i'm glad a jacket fan didn't have to tell these calgary fans that their full of poop, sorry boys in case you forgot russell came through our system and failed for 3yrs
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:14 PM ET
i'm glad a jacket fan didn't have to tell these calgary fans that their full of poop, sorry boys in case you forgot russell came through our system and failed for 3yrs
- redsfanhere


We kinda owe you guys for investing a roster spot in him. He was playing scared in his first few years with you guys but he was really composed last year.

Now he's a walking coke addiction that shows up for 3 on 3.

Still better than any D the Oilers are dressing tonight but he's had some brutal 1st periods this year.

Monahan and Johansen is a freaking huge 1-2 center combo. Who knows how Johansen responds playing a little more sheltered minutes?

Anyone see RJ hit Cole through the glass last week? Imagine that on a line with Ferland.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
i'm glad a jacket fan didn't have to tell these calgary fans that their full of poop, sorry boys in case you forgot russell came through our system and failed for 3yrs
- redsfanhere

Yep

as of today

Giordano
Hamilton +
Bennet +

Brodie's off limits.

Even giordano is unlikely from Calgary, but he's probably the only deal for Ryjo where not too much gets added one way or another.(maybe something minor from cbj)

Hamilton is overrated but has big potential. Cgy has to add a quality piece though.

Bennett's got tons of potential and probably gonna be great, but again, from cbj's point of view, why do it unless cgy added another solid piece?

The widemans/Russell's plus a bunch of lesser pieces makes zero sense for them. Non starter
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:23 PM ET
We kinda owe you guys for investing a roster spot in him. He was playing scared in his first few years with you guys but he was really composed last year.

Now he's a walking coke addiction that shows up for 3 on 3.

Still better than any D the Oilers are dressing tonight but he's had some brutal 1st periods this year.

Monahan and Johansen is a freaking huge 1-2 center combo. Who knows how Johansen responds playing a little more sheltered minutes?

Anyone see RJ hit Cole through the glass last week? Imagine that on a line with Ferland.

- fry


Russel Better than sekera?


Klefboms way better too. Just hurt.
Nurse will be the superior defender in about 5 minutes. Probably is already.

Those 3 are probably all better than Hamilton too who has huge potential, but was overrated coming in and has some real flaws.
(Again, nurse is like 12 years old but he's gonna be a helluva player. Already solid 30 games in)
U got Brodie and giordano. Great 1-2.
Be happy about that. But don't get too far away from realism with the rest of the group.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
Yep

as of today

Giordano
Hamilton +
Bennet +

Brodie's off limits.

Even giordano is unlikely from Calgary, but he's probably the only deal for Ryjo where not too much gets added one way or another.(maybe something minor from cbj)

Hamilton is overrated but has big potential. They'd have to add a quality piece though.

Bennett's got tons of potential and probably gone be great, but again, from cbj's point of view, why do it unless they added another solid piece?

The widemans/Russell's plus a bunch of lesser pieces makes zero sense for them. Non starter

- HB77




We're not trading Hamilton or Gio as they just signed huge contracts. I would love to trade either for RJ but that's not how the Flames operate.

Bennett simply isn't getting traded. Everyone outside of Calgary has been throwing him into offers and it's asinine.

Something involving Backlund would make sense. He can always use more minutes and he has none of the attitude problems that the Jackets hate about RJ.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:33 PM ET


We're not trading Hamilton or Gio as they just signed huge contracts. I would love to trade either for RJ but that's not how the Flames operate.

Bennett simply isn't getting traded. Everyone outside of Calgary has been throwing him into offers and it's asinine.

Something involving Backlund would make sense. He can always use more minutes and he has none of the attitude problems that the Jackets hate about RJ.

- fry


Makes sense. I wasn't really entertaining the rumour as realistic for Dougie or gio, or even Bennett.
Just trying to gauge value in any proposal for ryjo.

And yeah, be silly to trade Bennett, but why does cbj trade ryjo for less than him in return?
And they certainly don't want backlund caliber in return for a young bonafide 1c. And I don't think add ins change that.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 27 @ 5:37 PM ET
Makes sense. I wasn't really entertaining the rumour as realistic for Dougie or gio, or even Bennett.
Just trying to gauge value in any proposal for ryjo.

And yeah, be silly to trade Bennett, but why does cbj trade ryjo for less than him in return?
And they certainly don't want backlund caliber in return for a young bonafide 1c. And I don't think add ins change that.

- HB77

They did however trade for Clarkson...


Anything is possible
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:40 PM ET
Russel Better than sekera?


Klefboms way better too. Just hurt.
Nurse will be the superior defender in about 5 minutes. Probably is already.

Those 3 are probably all better than Hamilton too. (Again, nurse is like 12 years old but he's gonna be a helluva player. Already solid 30 games in)
U got Brodie and giordano. Great 1-2.
Be happy about that. But don't get too far away from realism with the rest of the group.

- HB77


Lol Sekera is about even with Russell. Russell is better with the puck. They're both pretty loaded with intangibles so either one is better on a night to night basis.

Klef your point is super moot not sure why you bothered typing it.

Nurse is worse this year; he gets owned every second game. Might be better than him next year but he just hasn't developed the strength for this league yet. Just like any young D prospect in his mold.

And Hamilton has come into his own after a rough start. He's better than those 3. I generally expect you to say something asinine in each of your posts so I'll write that one off for that reason.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:43 PM ET
Lol Sekera is about even with Russell. Russell is better with the puck. They're both pretty loaded with intangibles so either one is better on a night to night basis.

Klef your point is super moot not sure why you bothered typing it.

Nurse is worse this year; he gets owned every second game. Might be better than him next year but he just hasn't developed the strength for this league yet. Just like any young D prospect in his mold.

And Hamilton has come into his own after a rough start. He's better than those 3. I generally expect you to say something asinine in each of your posts so I'll write that one off for that reason.

- fry


You basically ended any rational reason to discuss this with you when u said Russell and sekera are even.


And Hamilton is way overrated.
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