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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
Fairly accurate with the exception of Prust. He aint going anywhere. Brought in to compliment Dorsett and if Dorsett goes down with injury we have no one to step in. Prust stays. McCann Bo Virt Hutton Sedins Hansen should be the ONLY untouchables going into TDL. All else is fair game.
- LordHumungous

I think if we are in the playoffs Prust stays , if we are not he is traded
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 24 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think if we are in the playoffs Prust stays , if we are not he is traded
- VANTEL

Possible but I can't get there. Even if we are a destitute team after TDL we have to have a little but of toughness to protect the kids out there and Dorsett can't do it all on his own. I just can't see JB leaving it all up to Dorsett like last year but could be wrong.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
http://youtu.be/pITc91M6MMU

Incredible first half highlights for Boeser. We haven't had a prospect this exciting in a long time. Decent size and speed, exceptional shot and vision
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
Before this thread turns heated with some debate about Benning and his asset management or lack of trading, I will take the time to say Merry Christmas to all the regulars and visitors who are involved in the Canucks threads including Carol. Most of us will probably not be on tomorrow so please have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Dec 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
Possible but I can't get there. Even if we are a destitute team after TDL we have to have a little but of toughness to protect the kids out there and Dorsett can't do it all on his own. I just can't see JB leaving it all up to Dorsett like last year but could be wrong.
- LordHumungous

Prust is easily replaced by Cole Cassels. If not then there are 50 other UFA's at a lower cap hit that will be willing to drop the mits and play that role for an NHL paycheck.

Speaking of Cole Cassels. Does anyone have a scouting report on him? I am very interested to know his progress especially after last years playoffs.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
Before this thread turns heated with some debate about Benning and his asset management or lack of trading, I will take the time to say Merry Christmas to all the regulars and visitors who are involved in the Canucks threads including Carol. Most of us will probably not be on tomorrow so please have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
- Codes1087


Merry Christmas and flagged.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
Merry Christmas and flagged.
- hillbillydeluxe


Ill take it Merry Christmas Buddy
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
Prust is easily replaced by Cole Cassels. If not then there are 50 other UFA's at a lower cap hit that will be willing to drop the mits and play that role for an NHL paycheck.

Speaking of Cole Cassels. Does anyone have a scouting report on him? I am very interested to know his progress especially after last years playoffs.

- Linden_4_Capt

Cassels is having a terrible year. He is invisible . He has 1 assist in 21 games
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 1:04 PM ET
Ill take it Merry Christmas Buddy
- Codes1087

Yes Merry Xmas to all
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 24 @ 1:08 PM ET
Cassels is having a terrible year. He is invisible . He has 1 assist in 21 games
- VANTEL


Pretty much, struggling defensively as well.
Granted, he is playing with garbage bottom six players on a fairly average team.

Give him some time. As we have seen thus far with Shink and Gaunce, the first year of AHL play doesn't necessarily mean squat in the long run.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
Pretty much, struggling defensively as well.
Granted, he is playing with garbage bottom six players on a fairly average team.

Give him some time. As we have seen thus far with Shink and Gaunce, the first year of AHL play doesn't necessarily mean squat in the long run.

- Whiskey-Tango



Yup I am just saying anyone expecting him Or Subban to make the Canucks next year will be disappointed . They are still a long ways away


The only players NHL ready are Grenier Gaunce Fedun Shink and Friesen. I guess you can say Kenins also but I don't see him sticking around
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 24 @ 1:19 PM ET
Happy Holiday's y'all, Enjoy your feats of strength.
How bout that first Virtanen goal yesterday
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
Yup I am just saying anyone expecting him Or Subban to make the Canucks next year will be disappointed . They are still a long ways away


The only players NHL ready are Grenier Gaunce Fedun Shink and Friesen. I guess you can say Kenins also but I don't see him sticking around

- VANTEL


Agreed. Some guy on HF (Bad Goalie) who watches every Utica game noted:

How's Subban's defensive game? I've been hearing he still needs work down low, is he getting beat wide? slow? physically outmatched?

work down low - positioning down low is a real problem and he gets to chasing the puck and people.

getting beat wide - at least once a game

slow - on his turn he loses speed and is often the big reason he gets beat wide, has also tripped himself up on the turn

physically outmatched - this is obvious on many occasions

When facing outmanned rushes, especially 2 on 1s, he just backs in all the way to the goalie making himself useless in defense of the rush.

What's up with Cassels?

Slow, slow, slow. Can't make a pass. Gets run off the puck with ease. Physically manhandled. Wins 0 puck battles. Looks lost and out of place.

Feel for the kid because he was supposed to have some real talent. Was injured at the end of last season and didn't get enough off season training in, but it's Christmas and he has shown no signs of improvement. If anything he is going the other way. Maybe this becomes a lost season and he comes back next year a different player. It's not looking positive for him at the moment.


Not very encouraging

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...read.php?t=1998299&page=3
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
Agreed. Some guy on HF (Bad Goalie) who watches every Utica game noted:

How's Subban's defensive game? I've been hearing he still needs work down low, is he getting beat wide? slow? physically outmatched?

work down low - positioning down low is a real problem and he gets to chasing the puck and people.

getting beat wide - at least once a game

slow - on his turn he loses speed and is often the big reason he gets beat wide, has also tripped himself up on the turn

physically outmatched - this is obvious on many occasions

When facing outmanned rushes, especially 2 on 1s, he just backs in all the way to the goalie making himself useless in defense of the rush.

What's up with Cassels?

Slow, slow, slow. Can't make a pass. Gets run off the puck with ease. Physically manhandled. Wins 0 puck battles. Looks lost and out of place.

Feel for the kid because he was supposed to have some real talent. Was injured at the end of last season and didn't get enough off season training in, but it's Christmas and he has shown no signs of improvement. If anything he is going the other way. Maybe this becomes a lost season and he comes back next year a different player. It's not looking positive for him at the moment.


Not very encouraging

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...read.php?t=1998299&page=3

- Whiskey-Tango


Yup . Jensen is a dud , but we have 5 NHL ready players and two spots on forward available and one spot on D . So I don't see a panic at this moment.

Next year Carl Neill should be on the Comets , and he is a guessing game at best. JB needs to get another close to ready Dman on the farm. They have brought in David Shields who can be used in a pinch. I don't see them having any faith in Pedan.

Treyemko is a mystery , but you can't put hope into a long shot.

Boeser and Brisebois in two years
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
https://pbs.twimg.com/twe...video/CWeLHd8W4AArx85.mp4

funny
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
Prust is easily replaced by Cole Cassels. If not then there are 50 other UFA's at a lower cap hit that will be willing to drop the mits and play that role for an NHL paycheck.

Speaking of Cole Cassels. Does anyone have a scouting report on him? I am very interested to know his progress especially after last years playoffs.

- Linden_4_Capt

Not this season he isn't. maybe in a few years when Cassels has developed but if you think Cassels can step in here and take Prusts role after TDL I'm not sure how you have convinced yourself of that. Cassels is nowhere near NHL play. Sure we amy be able to look at a cheaper option in the summer but pickins will be slim. Can't see Prust moving until next year if at all.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
Not this season he isn't. maybe in a few years when Cassels has developed but if you think Cassels can step in here and take Prusts role after TDL I'm not sure how you have convinced yourself of that. Cassels is nowhere near NHL play. Sure we amy be able to look at a cheaper option in the summer but pickins will be slim. Can't see Prust moving until next year if at all.
- LordHumungous



Prust is not worth 2.5 . There are better options in the UFA pool. We are not a playoff team so I would try for a pick. I would also offer him 1.3 when he hits the open market for two years
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
Yup . Jensen is a dud , but we have 5 NHL ready players and two spots on forward available and one spot on D . So I don't see a panic at this moment.

Next year Carl Neill should be on the Comets , and he is a guessing game at best. JB needs to get another close to ready Dman on the farm. They have brought in David Shields who can be used in a pinch. I don't see them having any faith in Pedan.

Treyemko is a mystery , but you can't put hope into a long shot.

Boeser and Brisebois in two years

- VANTEL


Which if true is a real shame.
Apparently the kid has been playing lights out lately.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 1:47 PM ET
Which if true is a real shame.
Apparently the kid has been playing lights out lately.

- Whiskey-Tango

I would let WD go before Pedan
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 24 @ 2:06 PM ET
I would let WD go before Pedan
- VANTEL


Still don't understand why they haven't played him on defense yet. Have they lost confidence in him and don't want to play him, anticipating his value will drop? Nah, doesn't make sense to me.

Benning must want to take a look at him before determining his future with the club. and with the injuries on the back end, he should of had that look by now.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
Still don't understand why they haven't played him on defense yet. Have they lost confidence in him and don't want to play him, anticipating his value will drop? Nah, doesn't make sense to me.

Benning must want to take a look at him before determining his future with the club. and with the injuries on the back end, he should of had that look by now.

- hillbillydeluxe



Seame thing we thought about Bobby Sanguienetti . It is clear that WD does not like tall Dmen
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 24 @ 2:28 PM ET
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 24 @ 3:02 PM ET
Prust is not worth 2.5 . There are better options in the UFA pool. We are not a playoff team so I would try for a pick. I would also offer him 1.3 when he hits the open market for two years
- VANTEL

Once we firesale at TDL (hopefully) Prusts salary isn't going to matter. He fills a need for the remainder of the year. Brought here for a specific reason not to be moved at TDL. Next year anything can happen.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 24 @ 8:53 PM ET
Friends call me hilly, another friend says deluxe a bit too much. I think there is actually a kid rock song of the same name too.... I wish it was original, at least it doesn't have a 99 or 01 after it.
- hillbillydeluxe


cool story

My nickname was Dragon for many years, even the wife called me that (I dont go by that anymore....they gave me a new one a few years back)

and the rest is my initials
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 24 @ 9:01 PM ET
I would let WD go before Pedan
- VANTEL

I agree with that
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