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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 22 @ 8:26 AM ET
Higher than normal hit. IF he has a history with concussions than I can see the extra stuff. If you can't see that, than you've never had one.
- Topshelf Mountain


Your history does not excuse the choices you make. That's ridiculous. I've had a couple concussions and sure, they suck, but you'd have to be an earthy shattering moron to do what Proud did there. There are no excuses. You cannot ALLOW for excuses.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 8:31 AM ET
I don't really see the big deal with this. I think he should be suspended, but I doubt it will happen. I am much more concerned with Jenner's potentially deliberate knee on knee contact with Malkin than this cross checking. Cross checking happens hundreds of times every game. Prout just did his repeatedly for no reason. If it were up to me, it would be punished but we all know the NHL is too stupid to improve their product.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Dec 22 @ 8:42 AM ET
Read my posts in a non aggressive, tired curious voice & you will realise that I'm only curious as to what your thoughts are on what should/could be considered a suspendable offence?? Not picking an arguement & has nothing to do with who you go for.

Sorry I didn't even finish your post as I think you have gone on an alternative course to where we were originally heading.

- Aussiepenguin

Probably lol
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 22 @ 8:48 AM ET
I don't really see the big deal with this. I think he should be suspended, but I doubt it will happen. I am much more concerned with Jenner's potentially deliberate knee on knee contact with Malkin than this cross checking. Cross checking happens hundreds of times every game. Prout just did his repeatedly for no reason. If it were up to me, it would be punished but we all know the NHL is too stupid to improve their product.
- jfkst1

I think you're being a smidge reactionary here because it looked like Malkin was out 3-6 weeks and Plotnikov looked fine. A single cross check to the head area is dangerous. Multiple is even worse. Concussions also decrease the long term quality of life more than knee injuries.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 8:58 AM ET
I think you're being a smidge reactionary here because it looked like Malkin was out 3-6 weeks and Plotnikov looked fine. A single cross check to the head area is dangerous. Multiple is even worse. Concussions also decrease the long term quality of life more than knee injuries.
- Victoro311


It's more that cross checks occur regularly and knee on knee collisions are relatively rare occurrences.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 22 @ 9:00 AM ET
It's more that cross checks occur regularly and knee on knee collisions are relatively rare occurrences.
- jfkst1


Unrelated to this post, but are you trying to imply that the Flyers don't deliberately try to maim every single player on the Penguins whenever they play? Because I won't believe that band of ravenous murdering pillagers would ever play a somewhat clean game.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:01 AM ET
It's more that cross checks occur regularly and knee on knee collisions are relatively rare occurrences.
- jfkst1

So wouldn't logic follow that you would want cross checks punished more than knee to knee hits because they happen so often and are the more common dangerous play? Shouldn't there be a priority on removing the most common causes of injury?

And yes, I agree with you that knee to knee hits are more imidiately dangerous than an isolated cross check, but do you see what I'm saying?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 9:03 AM ET
Unrelated to this post, but are you trying to imply that the Flyers don't deliberately try to maim every single player on the Penguins whenever they play? Because I won't believe that band of ravenous murdering pillagers would ever play a somewhat clean game.
- jmatchett383


Without Rinaldo I don't see anyone on their roster that is a problem. CBJ is an incident every game it seems. Having Tortorella as coach only exacerbates that. I hope they stay in the basement for a long time.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 9:07 AM ET
So wouldn't logic follow that you would want cross checks punished more than knee to knee hits because they happen so often and are the more common dangerous play? Shouldn't there be a priority on removing the most common causes of injury?

And yes, I agree with you that knee to knee hits are more imidiately dangerous than an isolated cross check, but do you see what I'm saying?

- Victoro311


I hate all the stick infractions. If it were up to me, they'd all be penalized. A lot of the "defensive play" in the NHL is cross-checking, holding the stick, slashing, hooking, and tripping. All of it should be called 100% of the time and it isn't. If Plotnikov is in front of the net or cycling the puck in the boards for 30 seconds and receives those same cross checks over that time no one would care at all because it is so commonplace.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:14 AM ET
rust and wilson reassigned.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Dec 22 @ 9:16 AM ET
Plots blatantly interfered with him. Puck was never at Prouts stick when he hit him. But plot gave him a shoulder to shoulder and the point of contact has to be the head. If he hits the shoulder and rides up to his head, it's still a clean hit. Prout should have never reacted that way though. Plots didn't charge, leave his feet, hit his head, so there's no reason why he should have cross checked him 700 times.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
Plots blatantly interfered with him. Puck was never at Prouts stick when he hit him. But plot gave him a shoulder to shoulder and the point of contact has to be the head. If he hits the shoulder and rides up to his head, it's still a clean hit. Prout should have never reacted that way though. Plots didn't charge, leave his feet, hit his head, so there's no reason why he should have cross checked him 700 times.
- drummer829


0% chance that will ever be called interference.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
Plots blatantly interfered with him. Puck was never at Prouts stick when he hit him. But plot gave him a shoulder to shoulder and the point of contact has to be the head. If he hits the shoulder and rides up to his head, it's still a clean hit. Prout should have never reacted that way though. Plots didn't charge, leave his feet, hit his head, so there's no reason why he should have cross checked him 700 times.
- drummer829

ye no. that was not interference. they were both heading for the puck and plot came in with speed and hit prout. prout retaliated against plotnikov (who had his head down) with no intention for taking the puck but only take the body on plotnikov.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:20 AM ET
rust and wilson reassigned.
- martox

Crosby and Letang back then? How many weeks have passed since Bennett went down?
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:20 AM ET
0% chance that will ever be called interference.
- jfkst1

indeed
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:21 AM ET
Crosby and Letang back then? How many weeks have passed since Bennett went down?
- Victoro311

1 week and he will be gone 4 - 6 weeks
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:21 AM ET
rust and wilson reassigned.
- martox


Wait, seriously? I mean I realize that there's a break but those guys just earned at least another game, if that means Sid sits another game so be it...you are punishing effort and heart if this is the way the team plans to continue.
phillyfan2020
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2011

Dec 22 @ 9:23 AM ET
Without Rinaldo I don't see anyone on their roster that is a problem. CBJ is an incident every game it seems. Having Tortorella as coach only exacerbates that. I hope they stay in the basement for a long time.
- jfkst1


I don't see intent to injure on the hit but repeatedly crosschecking someone in the head warrants a suspension. If not then Crosby should do that to Dubinsky every game.
It seems like CBJ do have at least one incident every game. Dubinsky on Crosby, Dubinsky diliberate knee on knee vs Voracek a few nights ago, the knee on Malkin and then this "tough guy". I guess you only get suspended if the other guy is hurt.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:24 AM ET
1 week and he will be gone 4 - 6 weeks
- martox

Ok so maybe Bennett is back after the break as well
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:27 AM ET
Wait, seriously? I mean I realize that there's a break but those guys just earned at least another game, if that means Sid sits another game so be it...you are punishing effort and heart if this is the way the team plans to continue.
- iworkatinitech

I have no idea how they have thought things out but sheary and murray are still up AND they probably need to send down a defensemen I think if it is letang they are making room for

defensemen on the team atm (not pairs)
letang - olli
dumo - lovejoy
daley - warsofsky
dinger - cole
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:28 AM ET
Ok so maybe Bennett is back after the break as well
- Victoro311

if we are very lucky ye
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 9:29 AM ET
I don't see intent to injure on the hit but repeatedly crosschecking someone in the head warrants a suspension. If not then Crosby should do that to Dubinsky every game.
It seems like CBJ do have at least one incident every game. Dubinsky on Crosby, Dubinsky diliberate knee on knee vs Voracek a few nights ago, the knee on Malkin and then this "tough guy". I guess you only get suspended if the other guy is hurt.

- phillyfan2020


Pretty much. If the NHL were the judicial body of the US, Attempted Murder wouldn't exist.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Dec 22 @ 9:29 AM ET
Wait, seriously? I mean I realize that there's a break but those guys just earned at least another game, if that means Sid sits another game so be it...you are punishing effort and heart if this is the way the team plans to continue.
- iworkatinitech

Yup you should sit Crosby for Rust and Wilson makes complete sense.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 22 @ 9:30 AM ET
Wait, seriously? I mean I realize that there's a break but those guys just earned at least another game, if that means Sid sits another game so be it...you are punishing effort and heart if this is the way the team plans to continue.
- iworkatinitech

Well Rust didn't play last night... But I agree Wilson dropping the gloves against 6'3 Boone Jenner was admirable and his pass to Kessel was a point well earned. Wilson might not be the best player in the world, but he's no plug and I think his play and heart last night earned him a two or three game stint. Unfortunately though, at the end of the day we can't give three to four roster spots to marginal NHL/AHL talent and there's just no way we can send Sheary down. I'd rather have Wilson up here than Porter though. No knock on Porter. I think he's a fine AHL call up, but Wilson right now has earned it more.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Dec 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
I don't see intent to injure on the hit but repeatedly crosschecking someone in the head warrants a suspension. If not then Crosby should do that to Dubinsky every game.
It seems like CBJ do have at least one incident every game. Dubinsky on Crosby, Dubinsky diliberate knee on knee vs Voracek a few nights ago, the knee on Malkin and then this "tough guy". I guess you only get suspended if the other guy is hurt.

- phillyfan2020

I mean they are a big physical team and want to play as such which I completely understand but with Torts at the helm they've seemed to cross the line with a lot more frequency.
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