It is time for that rebuild .

Arizona just told Doan he is welcome to stay as long as he wants. I just don't get that mentality.
- VANTEL

Think of it this way, if you don't keep players who have been loyal and have given everything to the franchise for years, no player is going to want to sign with the organization, or stay once their RFA period ends and they can go UFA. Why stay when the franchise is going to say bye bye to them the instant they start to decline. Keep in mind too that Doan is only one player and is slowly being dropped down the lineup as well as being the face of the franchise and is super popular down in Arizona (with what few fans there are down there). The kids they've drafted aren't ready to take on that role yet.

He's not worth anything...period.
- LeftCoaster

Exactly why they should not offer him another contract. The am cries about losing money and wants to spend needlessly

Think of it this way, if you don't keep players who have been loyal and have given everything to the franchise for years, no player is going to want to sign with the organization, or stay once their RFA period ends and they can go UFA. Why stay when the franchise is going to say bye bye to them the instant they start to decline. Keep in mind too that Doan is only one player and is slowly being dropped down the lineup as well as being the face of the franchise and is super popular down in Arizona (with what few fans there are down there). The kids they've drafted aren't ready to take on that role yet.
- DariusKnight

Players like Doan and the Sedins are the exception not the rule these days. I'd be hard pressed to find five or more current players who've played more than 1000 games for one franchise.

Think of it this way, if you don't keep players who have been loyal and have given everything to the franchise for years, no player is going to want to sign with the organization, or stay once their RFA period ends and they can go UFA. Why stay when the franchise is going to say bye bye to them the instant they start to decline. Keep in mind too that Doan is only one player and is slowly being dropped down the lineup as well as being the face of the franchise and is super popular down in Arizona (with what few fans there are down there). The kids they've drafted aren't ready to take on that role yet.
- DariusKnight

That is total bull. Free agents look at the money offered, the city ,then the team.

LA has thrown away a few contracts and players still jump at the chance of playing there. Same with Chicago. Leafs , the list goes on. This is not the 1990s anymore , cap space and dollars dictate where players go. Look at Fransen last year a top UFA who was willing to go anywhere where they would give him top dollar.

Arizona is cheap and a bad organization with nowhere to go except out of there

Players like Doan and the Sedins are the exception not the rule these days. I'd be hard pressed to find five or more current players who've played more than 1000 games for one franchise.
- LeftCoaster

Teams like Chicago Bruins and LA that move old players win cups . Teams like Canucks and Yotes that keep memorable players raise sweaters to the rafters and have players inducted to the ring of honour.

That is total bull. Free agents look at the money offered, the city ,then the team.

LA has thrown away a few contracts and players still jump at the chance of playing there. Same with Chicago. Leafs , the list goes on. This is not the 1990s anymore , cap space and dollars dictate where players go. Look at Fransen last year a top UFA who was willing to go anywhere where they would give him top dollar.

Arizona is cheap and a bad organization with nowhere to go except out of there
- VANTEL

That's the thing though... UFA ISN'T like it was in the 90's when big dollar contracts could be handed out willy-nilly. Players are being resigned long-term long before they go to UFA and those players that go UFA generally don't get signed unless it's to a two-way deal or PTOs, and we're talking some significant players too in some instances.

It's funny that you mention Franson, he wanted top dollar, and we were speculating that he'd get 4.5-5 mil on the open market somewhere for 4-5 years, but only got 3x3 in Buffalo of all places, and now barely plays.

Teams like Chicago Bruins and LA that move old players win cups . Teams like Canucks and Yotes that keep memorable players raise sweaters to the rafters and have players inducted to the ring of honour.
- VANTEL

Chicago and LA haven't moved anyone that I know of that they've drafted and were getting older? Moving the twins isn't like trading Patrick Sharp, who walked away from Chicago as a UFA didn't he?

Times are certainly different now, you won't see many guys play their whole career with one team.

Chicago and LA haven't moved anyone that I know of that they've drafted and were getting older? Moving the twins isn't like trading Patrick Sharp, who walked away from Chicago as a UFA didn't he?

Times are certainly different now, you won't see many guys play their whole career with one team.
- LeftCoaster

Chicago bought out their goalie, moved Sharp, Campbell , and younger pieces like Saad Pirrili and were even thinking about Crawford at one point and Kane this summer.

Smart management . No player is more important than the organization

They traded Sharp to Dallas I think. Sharp also has three cups with them , he has been a 30 goal scorer 4 times with them 20 goal scorer 3 times and 43 playoff goals which I am willing to bet is more than both Sedins combined. 81 playoff pts. He was bigger than you are making him out to be

The Lightning will be without five of their top 12 forwards when they face the Canucks tonight.

For Vancouver, Henrik's in. Higgins is probably out...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...Henrik-Sedin-In/194/73457

Chicago bought out their goalie, moved Sharp, Campbell , and younger pieces like Saad Pirrili and were even thinking about Crawford at one point and Kane this summer.

Smart management . No player is more important than the organization
- VANTEL

No, it's just that they had the prospects in the system ready to step in to those shoes, a much different situation, they could afford to get rid of them because they had players ready to step up and take the place of who they got rid of.

Chicago bought out their goalie, moved Sharp, Campbell , and younger pieces like Saad Pirrili and were even thinking about Crawford at one point and Kane this summer.

Smart management . No player is more important than the organization
- VANTEL

That's completely different than trading the twins, which is what we're talking about, as you started the conversation about Doan.

They gutted their organization because of two players, Toews and Kane make 21 million dollars between them, if you ad Keith, Seabrook and Crawford it's almost 40 million for those five players.

This chart was just on Bob MacKenzies twitter:

I am sure I have seen some highlight reels showing him putting a pass on the game winning goal in OT for the other teams stick on this road trip.

Edler is not as good as some here think and he is not as bas as others think. He is a decent #3
- VANTEL

C'mon. He's an amazing #3 and a really good #2.
Just not a consistently good #1.