I don't think there is an easy fix, we are just going to have to be patient. Hopefully Konecny comes into camp next year 5-10 lbs heavier and stronger and makes the club. That would at least give them another skilled player to work with. I'd also like to see B. Schenn moved for a legit top 6 LW. They then could go with:

Raffl-G-Jake
New LW-Couts-Konecny
Read-Laughton-Simmonds
- BiggE

Ugh. I can't go into another year with Raffl in the top 6. They need an upgrade there in a big way. They desperately need to put someone there that is going to help that line score at 5 on 5. I don't know if that player is in this draft or available via trade but I just can't stomach another year of Raffl there.

I agree regarding BSchenn.

I don't think there is an easy fix, we are just going to have to be patient. Hopefully Konecny comes into camp next year 5-10 lbs heavier and stronger and makes the club. That would at least give them another skilled player to work with. I'd also like to see B. Schenn moved for a legit top 6 LW. They then could go with:

Raffl-G-Jake
New LW-Couts-Konecny
Read-Laughton-Simmonds
- BiggE

I didn't love Couturier and Giroux last night, though obviously, Giroux's track record in big moments is well established

I know Couturier is still developing, but (frank), I do wish he was as mean as Dubinsky and Foligno

I know that He is a good player. I don't mean for anyone to think I don't believe in what Couturier brings to the team

But yeah, sometimes, I would like for his fuse to be a little shorter and for him to be the guy cross checking someone in the neck and standing right on top of the goaltender, shooting the puck on the 2-on-1

Aggression isn't always a bad thing -- sometimes, Couts could do better at creating space for himself in prime scoring areas through sheer toughness and meanness

I wonder if there is any chance you could swap BSchenn and AMac for Jeff Skinner? Now before you throw out the old Skinner is always injured excuse you've gotta realize that he's played 70+ games in each of the last two seasons. And while his cap hit is a bit high for his production you're getting rid of AMac who you are presently getting zero from at all. Canes get a fairly comparable forward and a #4 D man for nothing. Lord knows the cap room isn't an issue for the Canes.

Player safety can beef up their role and start handing out more suspensions and fines. That's really the best way to do it. They finally did it with headshots but they're still way too lenient with everything else.

Don't want players getting suspended too often? Fine. Dock their pay then. Dubinsky shouldn't get paid for a game where he pulls that poop. That will end it real fast.
- hereticpride

Suspensions already come with a loss in pay. That hasn't done much.

Ugh. I can't go into another year with Raffl in the top 6. They need an upgrade there in a big way. They desperately need to put someone there that is going to help that line score at 5 on 5. I don't know if that player is in this draft or available via trade but I just can't stomach another year of Raffl there.

I agree regarding BSchenn.
- hereticpride

Yeah, I agree with and I hope that player is perhaps the guy they take with their 1st rounder this year. However, it is very doubtful that a guy taken this spring will be in the lineup come October of 2016 so you will still need someone to fill that role. If not Raffl, I guess the only option to make another trade or look to sign a reasonably priced veteran if you can find one.

I wonder if there is any chance you could swap BSchenn and AMac for Jeff Skinner? Now before you throw out the old Skinner is always injured excuse you've gotta realize that he's played 70+ games in each of the last two seasons. And while his cap hit is a bit high for his production you're getting rid of AMac who you are presently getting zero from at all. Canes get a fairly comparable forward and a #4 D man for nothing. Lord knows the cap room isn't an issue for the Canes.
- hereticpride

I'd make that deal, but I can't see the Canes having the slightest interest in AMac due to that horrific contract.

I wonder if there is any chance you could swap BSchenn and AMac for Jeff Skinner? Now before you throw out the old Skinner is always injured excuse you've gotta realize that he's played 70+ games in each of the last two seasons. And while his cap hit is a bit high for his production you're getting rid of AMac who you are presently getting zero from at all. Canes get a fairly comparable forward and a #4 D man for nothing. Lord knows the cap room isn't an issue for the Canes.
- hereticpride

You said the Canes would get a #4 D...but your proposal said AMac

God Bless Andrew MacDonald, but that is not what he is

I do, however, think Carolina could/should consider a Brayden Schenn kind of package, depending on what they do with Eric Staal. I am probably one of the last humans on the planet who still thinks Schenn is a center

I wonder if there is any chance you could swap BSchenn and AMac for Jeff Skinner? Now before you throw out the old Skinner is always injured excuse you've gotta realize that he's played 70+ games in each of the last two seasons. And while his cap hit is a bit high for his production you're getting rid of AMac who you are presently getting zero from at all. Canes get a fairly comparable forward and a #4 D man for nothing. Lord knows the cap room isn't an issue for the Canes.
- hereticpride

If you were the Canes, would you take that deal for Skinner?

If you were the Canes, would you take that deal for Skinner?
- MJL

If there's any truth to rumors they shopped him for a while now too. And I do think AMac canbplay on that roster. They aren't and never are a cap strapped team so idk, I don't think they'd balk at it solely because of his contract.

Maybe you're right though. In that case I'd throw in a 3rd rounder as my best offer.

You said the Canes would get a #4 D...but your proposal said AMac

God Bless Andrew MacDonald, but that is not what he is

I do, however, think Carolina could/should consider a Brayden Schenn kind of package, depending on what they do with Eric Staal. I am probably one of the last humans on the planet who still thinks Schenn is a center
- AllInForFlyers

He is, and he would be on the Canes. MacDonald would be their 2nd best defenseman right now. Even with that said, I don't see the Canes taking on that contract in full. I also don't see the Canes taking that deal, they'd want more.

If there's any truth to rumors they shopped him for a while now too. And I do think AMac canbplay on that roster. They aren't and never are a cap strapped team so idk, I don't think they'd balk at it solely because of his contract.

Maybe you're right though. In that case I'd throw in a 3rd rounder as my best offer.
- hereticpride

Realistically, in my opinion, a few things have to happen, for the Flyers to be able to trade MacDonald. One, he has to be up and playing in the NHL. Two, I think they need another year or two taken off of the deal, and 3rd, they'd have to retain some salary.

I think all kneeing penalties should be majors. Takes out the discretion, really gives incentive not to do it, opens up the game some more. Kind of like how the NFL made all face mask penalties 15 yards

I wonder if there is any chance you could swap BSchenn and AMac for Jeff Skinner? Now before you throw out the old Skinner is always injured excuse you've gotta realize that he's played 70+ games in each of the last two seasons. And while his cap hit is a bit high for his production you're getting rid of AMac who you are presently getting zero from at all. Canes get a fairly comparable forward and a #4 D man for nothing. Lord knows the cap room isn't an issue for the Canes.
- hereticpride

That is a ridiculous trade

I wonder if there is any chance you could swap BSchenn and AMac for Jeff Skinner? Now before you throw out the old Skinner is always injured excuse you've gotta realize that he's played 70+ games in each of the last two seasons. And while his cap hit is a bit high for his production you're getting rid of AMac who you are presently getting zero from at all. Canes get a fairly comparable forward and a #4 D man for nothing. Lord knows the cap room isn't an issue for the Canes.
- hereticpride

I doubt that'd be anywhere near enough for Skinner. Especially right now as he's in the middle of a red hot streak.

If I was Carolina, I'd want a lot more.

Watched duninskys kneeing again. (frank)ing ridiculous. Couldn't even keep his skate on the ice It was like a leg bar

If you were the Canes, would you take that deal for Skinner?
- MJL

Considering his concussion history ....I wouldn't hang up the phone....but I would also tell them they can keep Amac.

Well my boy and I had a blast despite the L. I wish they would play first periods like they play third periods. Was great to see them come back in the third and get a point.

Some comments: Umberger should be Vinnyed. He is toast out there. He can't seem to do much other than chip the puck along and take bad penalties. I realize we need guys to chop it along but for his contract he needs to do more. He also doesn't look like he enjoys the game. He looks pained all the time. Send him to the A and bring up Cousins.

Simmer is a beast. Great seeing him stick up for Jake. Duby should have been tossed for that crap.

Jake is fast as hell. You don't realize how fast dide can skate until you see him at ice level. He was plugging well last night.

Ghost got some ohhs and ahhs with a nice spin o rama at one point.

Was cool to see 3 on 3 OT, and even the SO. Never been at a game for that before. SO still sucks.

All in all a great time though. Flyers will get on in Cbus one of these days. Lost 7 straight there since 2008. I've been to losses in 2008, 2009, 2014, 2015 No wonder it feels like I have not seen a W live in a while.

All in all a great time. My boy really got into the game: 'Dad can we yell Let's go Flyers?' Yeah son we sure can. 'OK you go first Dad.' LETS GO FLYERS!

I think all kneeing penalties should be majors. Takes out the discretion, really gives incentive not to do it, opens up the game some more. Kind of like how the NFL made all face mask penalties 15 yards
- Just5

That's not a good idea. Some kneeing penalties are accidental.

That's not a good idea. Some kneeing penalties are accidental.
- MJL

Some high sticks are accidental, but unless it is a shot follow through, it's still a penalty.

Surprising nobody at all, no supplemental discipline for Dubinsky, per Aaron Portzline.

Well my boy and I had a blast despite the L. I wish they would play first periods like they play third periods. Was great to see them come back in the third and get a point.

Some comments: Umberger should be Vinnyed. He is toast out there. He can't seem to do much other than chip the puck along and take bad penalties. I realize we need guys to chop it along but for his contract he needs to do more. He also doesn't look like he enjoys the game. He looks pained all the time. Send him to the A and bring up Cousins.

Simmer is a beast. Great seeing him stick up for Jake. Duby should have been tossed for that crap.

Jake is fast as hell. You don't realize how fast dide can skate until you see him at ice level. He was plugging well last night.

Ghost got some ohhs and ahhs with a nice spin o rama at one point.

Was cool to see 3 on 3 OT, and even the SO. Never been at a game for that before. SO still sucks.

All in all a great time though. Flyers will get on in Cbus one of these days. Lost 7 straight there since 2008. I've been to losses in 2008, 2009, 2014, 2015 No wonder it feels like I have not seen a W live in a while.

All in all a great time. My boy really got into the game: 'Dad can we yell Let's go Flyers?' Yeah son we sure can. 'OK you go first Dad.' LETS GO FLYERS!
- Lexington Flyer

I totally agree with you on Umberger, if I never see him a Flyers uniform again, I would be thrilled.

Surprising nobody at all, no supplemental discipline for Dubinsky, per Aaron Portzline.
- Jsaquella

Nope, not surprised at all. The NHL bases discipline on the result, rather than the action. If Read had been taken off the ice on a stretcher because his knee had been obliterated, then Dubinsky would have been suspended. It truly is ridiculous. The penalty should be based solely on the action, not the result, but the league just doesn't get it.

Pathetic.

Some high sticks are accidental, but unless it is a shot follow through, it's still a penalty.
- BiggE

I didn't say it still shouldn't be a penalty, I said all kneeing penalties shouldn't automatically be a major penalty, just as all high sticks are not automatically a major penalty.

Nope, not surprised at all. The NHL bases discipline on the result, rather than the action. If Read had been taken off the ice on a stretcher because his knee had been obliterated, then Dubinsky would have been suspended. It truly is ridiculous. The penalty should be based solely on the action, not the result, but the league just doesn't get it.

Pathetic.
- BiggE

There has to be a way to separate the severity of actions. The more harm an action causes, the more severe the punishment should be. I agree that Dubinsky made a dangerous play that is suspension worthy, but whether or not an injury occurs, has to be part of the equation. It's the same way for high sticking, charging, elbowing, checking from behind, etc.

You said the Canes would get a #4 D...but your proposal said AMac

God Bless Andrew MacDonald, but that is not what he is

I do, however, think Carolina could/should consider a Brayden Schenn kind of package, depending on what they do with Eric Staal. I am probably one of the last humans on the planet who still thinks Schenn is a center
- AllInForFlyers

No b schenn is a center. As soon as the flyers figure that out the better we will be