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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
Just saw the score...Miller and Lou...

I knew it...

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
Who is the 3 v 3 o/t for??
Because man, everyone on our team sucks at it.

- dbot

You have to leave the Sedins on the bench in OT.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 20 @ 7:14 PM ET
You have to leave the Sedins on the bench in OT.
- VANTEL

Which at the beginning of the year was so odd because one would think the Sedins would have a field day in 3/3. But reality is they are just too slow and lack the defensive abilities to do it.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 20 @ 7:16 PM ET
Just saw the score...Miller and Lou...

I knew it...


- LordHumungous


was the tale of two softies for sure.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 20 @ 7:17 PM ET
Which at the beginning of the year was so odd because one would think the Sedins would have a field day in 3/3. But reality is they are just too slow and lack the defensive abilities to do it.
- LordHumungous


We really miss a solid faceoff guy that can win us the puck and give the team possession.

Add it to the wishlist of things we need for the team.

PMD
PP QB
Bruising Dman

heir apparent future 1C
PWF
secondary scoring
LeftCoaster
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Glendale AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 20 @ 7:45 PM ET
Vantel you're getting shutout in the pool, what's the deal?
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 20 @ 7:59 PM ET
I hope Miller is alright.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 20 @ 8:01 PM ET
despite the SO loss it's great to see the scoring spread out over the team. Sven is starting to score! Hanson continues to score even on a different line.

pluses here aside from the point earned.

God I hate the SO tho.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 20 @ 8:51 PM ET
despite the SO loss it's great to see the scoring spread out over the team. Sven is starting to score! Hanson continues to score even on a different line.

pluses here aside from the point earned.

God I hate the SO tho.

- SMBDragon

Shall we go beyond 60 minutes, the SO is our only chance. OT sure as hell hasnt achieved a (frank)ing thing.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 20 @ 9:52 PM ET
Shall we go beyond 60 minutes, the SO is our only chance. OT sure as hell hasnt achieved a (frank)ing thing.
- vancity787


Wondering how much the team is practicing the 3v3?

There was some puck possession in ot but when they get hemmed into their own end and then run out of steam, don't know what they can do.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 20 @ 10:35 PM ET
Wondering how much the team is practicing the 3v3?

There was some puck possession in ot but when they get hemmed into their own end and then run out of steam, don't know what they can do.

- hillbillydeluxe


Personally, I'd rather they practice their penalty kill, if you can call it that.

But I guess if you were to start listing the things they need to work on you'd be here awhile.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 20 @ 10:45 PM ET
Personally, I'd rather they practice their penalty kill, if you can call it that.

But I guess if you were to start listing the things they need to work on you'd be here awhile.

- CubanBuffet


Some of the mistakes on the pk appear to be the dmen both going to one side or the corner, leaving a guy open at the side of the net or around there. We do have some inexperienced dmen.

and they likely don't have time to practice with all the travel and now holidays.

that was a weird game. some of the officiating, but that might just be the norm.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 20 @ 11:34 PM ET
Some of the mistakes on the pk appear to be the dmen both going to one side or the corner, leaving a guy open at the side of the net or around there. We do have some inexperienced dmen.
- hillbillydeluxe


Yes I agree.

Although I wouldnt consider them inexperienced....more like somehow totally lost.
LeftCoaster
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Glendale AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 20 @ 11:34 PM ET
Shall we go beyond 60 minutes, the SO is our only chance. OT sure as hell hasnt achieved a (frank)ing thing.
- vancity787

You forgot to set your lineup today
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 21 @ 12:17 AM ET
Yes I agree.

Although I wouldnt consider them inexperienced....more like somehow totally lost.

- SMBDragon


PK always seems to be an adventure, someone goes to help someone else and they leave someone open. Guess they are trying to help but it often ends the same.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 12:17 AM ET
Vantel you're getting shutout in the pool, what's the deal?
- LeftCoaster

My team sucks
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Dec 21 @ 12:21 AM ET
My team sucks
- VANTEL


It's amazing the gap between top and bottom in the pool. The top 6 are way ahead of the rest.

Borowiecki got me 20 pims today.
Hit looked clean to me, not sure why he got tossed.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 21 @ 12:25 AM ET
90% of the time I have no idea what the f@ck I'm even talking about.
- thundachunk

You've come to the right place.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 12:27 AM ET
Our league is so bad that we lost today and still moved up 4 spots and into the playoffs.

Talk about a Sh1tty system
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 21 @ 12:36 AM ET
PK always seems to be an adventure, someone goes to help someone else and they leave someone open. Guess they are trying to help but it often ends the same.
- hillbillydeluxe


Thats right....and people wonder why I say the D has NO system in place.

and if Im wrong and there is, however made that crud up needs to be immediately canned, burned alive then peed on.

either way it's an incredible deficiency by the coaching staff. So they are to blame... either you installed no system and give players 0 instruction or the instructions given are brutally bad.

Lidster must go....And for those who didn't believe it when I said it last season, look at it now....D is far, far worse than last season. Give him the boot...Or possibly rotate the staffs assignments to someone new
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 21 @ 12:44 AM ET
Thats right....and people wonder why I say the D has NO system in place.

and if Im wrong and there is, however made that crud up needs to be immediately canned, burned alive then peed on.

either way it's an incredible deficiency by the coaching staff. So they are to blame... either you installed no system and give players 0 instruction or the instructions given are brutally bad.

Lidster must go....And for those who didn't believe it when I said it last season, look at it now....D is far, far worse than last season. Give him the boot...Or possibly rotate the staffs assignments to someone new

- SMBDragon


Maybe the problem is coaching, maybe it's the fact that the Cancucks have one of the least talented Ds in the league; probably it's both.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 12:52 AM ET
Maybe the problem is coaching, maybe it's the fact that the Cancucks have one of the least talented Ds in the league; probably it's both.
- CubanBuffet

Elder and Tanev are 3/4 Dman and we have them playing 1/2 . Just because they are our best doesn't make them 1/2. Same as Higgins in not a second liner and Hansen is not a first liner.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 21 @ 1:14 AM ET
Maybe the problem is coaching, maybe it's the fact that the Cancucks have one of the least talented Ds in the league; probably it's both.
- CubanBuffet


A good coach can take less talented players and win with them. And esp w D it is so reliant on positioning and a well informed system of play. That is missing here on this team clearly. You need to know how to play around your goaltender, everyone should know where rebounds are expected to be directed to and expected to be picked up. We also have NO breakout plan, the worst for it in the NHL.

Some here blame the players but yet we have new players coming in every single year with the same consistent result. That comes from above....the system of play or lack there of in our case.

But yes, he do have a lack of better D here. So while it certainly helps to have better players, point is we could be doing way way better with what we have if we actually had a D blueprint onboard.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 21 @ 1:26 AM ET
A good coach can take less talented players and win with them. And esp w D it is so reliant on positioning and a well informed system of play. That is missing here on this team clearly. You need to know how to play around your goaltender, everyone should know where rebounds are expected to be directed to and expected to be picked up. We also have NO breakout plan, the worst for it in the NHL.

Some here blame the players but yet we have new players coming in every single year with the same consistent result. That comes from above....the system of play or lack there of in our case.

But yes, he do have a lack of better D here. So while it certainly helps to have better players, point is we could be doing way way better with what we have if we actually had a D blueprint onboard.

- SMBDragon


Babcock is a good coach, but he's not doing much with less talented players. And I'm not sure how you can say the results have been the same year after year. If you mean we haven't one a cup, well yeah, I can't argue that. But other than the Torts year and this one, most likely, we've been a solid regular season team that was competitive in most games. And our PK has been consistently good other then this year, including under Lidster last season when it finished second in the league. That wasn't an accident.

I'm not defending Lidster, but it's too simplistic to lay all the blame at his feet. Benning deserves his share and the players as well. It's been a team effort, IMO.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 21 @ 1:41 AM ET
Elder and Tanev are 3/4 Dman and we have them playing 1/2 . Just because they are our best doesn't make them 1/2. Same as Higgins in not a second liner and Hansen is not a first liner.
- VANTEL


It's bite the bullet year. There's too many holes and not enough assets to fill them. You could replace the underperformaning vets with guys from the farm and they wouldn't be worse and might even be better, but not better enough to make any real difference. Honestly, if you are rooting for a higher draft pick then Higgins should be your favourite player.
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