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eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Dec 12 @ 6:43 PM ET
Ladd would fit perfectly.

Would you give up a #1 Dano and __________ for a Ladd rental ?

- mrpaulish

No....deadline deals will be done and if Stan and Pops are on. ROSES
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Dec 12 @ 6:58 PM ET
saad
- John Jaeckel

Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Dec 12 @ 7:07 PM ET
Ladd would fit perfectly.

Would you give up a #1 Dano and __________ for a Ladd rental ?

- mrpaulish


I & most agree Ladd is a god fit here. He's also a good fit for a lot of teams trying to get to the next level.
Mtl.NYR,Wash,Dallas,Minnie,Blues,LA,Preds ...you get the picture

Ladd will not be moved until the Jets feel they are out of the race or close to deadline.

Not 100% sure the Hawks see themselves as buyers yet. If it's determined they are truly a Bubble team they may stand pat & not pay with the future for a rental. TT seems too high a price to pay for a rental.
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Dec 12 @ 7:12 PM ET
JJ or anyone else who cares to answer , of all the Hawks who had to be sent packing because of the salery cap issue's which one player do you think would give the Hawks the best chance to repeat this year. Buff, Ladd, Leddy, Sharp, Saad, Brower ect
- HamiltonHawk


Buff because he can play D and is a beast at Wing
Checks two boxes.

Saad and Ladd close seconds
onehundredlevel
Joined: 10.27.2015

Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM ET
Ladd would fit perfectly.

Would you give up a #1 Dano and __________ for a Ladd rental ?

- mrpaulish


My guess is Dano and TT are in the Hawks plans and they don't want to trade either one. But there are other parts they have that they would move to rent Ladd. But purely a guess on my part.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 12 @ 8:49 PM ET
To me sure you can call them a bubble team they are only 7 points away from being out of the playoffs but at the same time they are tied for the 3rd best record in the WC?

Considering Keith was out for so many games, 6 new players, 7th was sent down to Rockford, TT feeling his way, at times plays tentatively, TVR another 2nd year player who's playing solid minutes.

After 30 games if someone were to tell me Keith would be hurt and only the 2nd line would produce points for the first 25 games of the year, Daley would take time to develop, with all this information I would say the Blackhawks would be lucky to be in a playoff spot, but yet here we are.

I only think we will get better from here, now we have the 4th line starting to resemble what they were last year.

3rd line is still a work in progress

2nd line best line in hockey

1st line is starting to look like a top 6 line

Defense

Keith #1
Seabrook #2
Hjalmarsson #2
TVR defensive #5
Daley offensive #5 getting better defensively
Rozy #6
Runny#7

Rodney top 5 goalie

Big 4 games and took 6 out of 8 points

I guess we'll see but to me the future looks bright






TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Dec 12 @ 8:51 PM ET
You guys can have Buff, Ladd and to a lesser extent, Saad. While I am a Oduya fan, give me Sharp.
He checks all the boxes in addition to being a key member to 3 Cup winning teams.


TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Dec 12 @ 8:53 PM ET
Jamie Benn may have just become my new favorite player. He punched Backes to the ice.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 12 @ 8:55 PM ET
My guess is Dano and TT are in the Hawks plans and they don't want to trade either one. But there are other parts they have that they would move to rent Ladd. But purely a guess on my part.
- onehundredlevel


Q may not even be convinced that Dano is an NHL capable player, now or into the future. And based on this year to date doubt the Jets would show much interest.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 12 @ 8:56 PM ET
You guys can have Buff, Ladd and to a lesser extent, Saad. While I am a Oduya fan, give me Sharp.
He checks all the boxes in addition to being a key member to 3 Cup winning teams.

- TTtime


Oduya would be the one guy I would want. Sharp ehh
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 12 @ 8:57 PM ET
Jamie Benn may have just become my new favorite player. He punched Backes to the ice.
- TTtime


2nd fight of the year between those 2. Benn doesn't seem to get off on Backes act.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:13 PM ET
Jamie Benn may have just become my new favorite player. He punched Backes to the ice.
- TTtime


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPUcn41JAQ

Benn was already on my favs list for taking Backes on last year (when Davey held on for dear life).

Backes is older than Benn - doesn't need to be wearing the shield. Gutless punk. At least he didn't clutch like a coward this time - though he dropped like a glass jawed princess (which he is).

And any Blows fan who says Backes is "just a little larger than Toews" and usually "fights in his weight class" is full of poop. He looks like he has 20 lbs on Benn.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:13 PM ET
Oduya would be the one guy I would want. Sharp ehh
- BetweenTheDots


If he wasn't making $6mil Sharp is another guy I would have liked to see retire a Hawk.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM ET
Q may not even be convinced that Dano is an NHL capable player, now or into the future. And based on this year to date doubt the Jets would show much interest.
- RickJ


I understand they are the same age, but comparing Dano in any other way to TT is not something I would do. The only way I give up on TT is if he plays bashful....Otherwise he needs time to grow both physically and as a NHL player.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM ET
Oduya would be the one guy I would want. Sharp ehh
- BetweenTheDots


Oduya would be the most crucial this year. His being here would put TVR and Daley at 5-6 and that would make their D among the deepest.

Sharp didn't "have fun" playing hockey here the last few years anyways. After the sulky post olympics and playoffs of 2014 I would definitely not take him over Saad or Ladd. Either would be the LW that would put the Hawks over the top. Sharp not so sure.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:18 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPUcn41JAQ

Benn was already on my favs list for taking Backes on last year (when Davey held on for dear life).

Backes is older than Benn - doesn't need to be wearing the shield. Gutless punk. At least he didn't clutch like a coward this time - though he dropped like a glass jawed princess (which he is).

And any Blows fan who says Backes is "just a little larger than Toews" and usually "fights in his weight class" is full of poop. He looks like he has 20 lbs on Benn.

- tredbrta


If that's the case, he and Bickell are then also roughly the same weight class, and I seem to remember him not wanting any part of that. Could be mistaken but thought it was Bickell.
TexasFlood
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Deep in the heart a .. .
Joined: 02.02.2013

Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM ET
2nd fight of the year between those 2. Benn doesn't seem to get off on Backes act.
- RickJ

As few do, it's old and stale. But what I find interesting, is how most folks here are dismissing Dallas as an easy out in the playoffs. I beg to differ. This is a good team with the cap space to add what they need at the deadline, but their much maligned defense is really not that bad.

And now you add in the much respected Jim Nill as their GM. Hmmm. The Hawks have yet to play their five games against Dallas yet. I have tickets for all three down here, but they are VERY good and quite frankly shouldn't be dismissed quite so easily.

It's a long season boys. Let's see how it all plays out. And honestly, how many of you have watched Dallas this year? Just saying.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:20 PM ET
I understand they are the same age, but comparing Dano in any other way to TT is not something I would do. The only way I give up on TT is if he plays bashful....Otherwise he needs time to grow both physically and as a NHL player.
- Al


Agree Al. TT has too many of those "wow" moments like last night's pass to Kane and the no look shot earlier in the week.

Dano had his share late last year but playing him at LW hurt his confidence IMO.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM ET
If that's the case, he and Bickell are then also roughly the same weight class, and I seem to remember him not wanting any part of that. Could be mistaken but thought it was Bickell.
- HawkintheD


Bickell handled him but he still looked bigger than BB too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OAtQKsIq4w
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Dec 12 @ 9:25 PM ET
As few do, it's old and stale. But what I find interesting, is how most folks here are dismissing Dallas as an easy out in the playoffs. I beg to differ. This is a good team with the cap space to add what they need at the deadline, but their much maligned defense is really not that bad.

And now you add in the much respected Jim Nill as their GM. Hmmm. The Hawks have yet to play their five games against Dallas yet. I have tickets for all three down here, but they are VERY good and quite frankly shouldn't be dismissed quite so easily.

It's a long season boys. Let's see how it all plays out. And honestly, how many of you have watched Dallas this year? Just saying.

- TexasFlood


Dallas has a Cup winning goalie...They added some winning know how and have some hungry talented players.

Loading up to win now often doesn't work...It has here but Dallas is set to win now, because they will have some serious cap issues soon.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM ET
As few do, it's old and stale. But what I find interesting, is how most folks here are dismissing Dallas as an easy out in the playoffs. I beg to differ. This is a good team with the cap space to add what they need at the deadline, but their much maligned defense is really not that bad.

And now you add in the much respected Jim Nill as their GM. Hmmm. The Hawks have yet to play their five games against Dallas yet. I have tickets for all three down here, but they are VERY good and quite frankly shouldn't be dismissed quite so easily.

It's a long season boys. Let's see how it all plays out. And honestly, how many of you have watched Dallas this year? Just saying.

- TexasFlood


Hey TF

Hard to dismiss their talent. Not sure they can play tight enough defense for the POs yet though. Nill probably will make some deal by the TDL with that excess of young D men he has in the AHL and in Dallas.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM ET
As few do, it's old and stale. But what I find interesting, is how most folks here are dismissing Dallas as an easy out in the playoffs. I beg to differ. This is a good team with the cap space to add what they need at the deadline, but their much maligned defense is really not that bad.

And now you add in the much respected Jim Nill as their GM. Hmmm. The Hawks have yet to play their five games against Dallas yet. I have tickets for all three down here, but they are VERY good and quite frankly shouldn't be dismissed quite so easily.

It's a long season boys. Let's see how it all plays out. And honestly, how many of you have watched Dallas this year? Just saying.

- TexasFlood


Dallas looks good. Al mentioned the Cup winning goaltending but that's the area I would question.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM ET
As few do, it's old and stale. But what I find interesting, is how most folks here are dismissing Dallas as an easy out in the playoffs. I beg to differ. This is a good team with the cap space to add what they need at the deadline, but their much maligned defense is really not that bad.

And now you add in the much respected Jim Nill as their GM. Hmmm. The Hawks have yet to play their five games against Dallas yet. I have tickets for all three down here, but they are VERY good and quite frankly shouldn't be dismissed quite so easily.

It's a long season boys. Let's see how it all plays out. And honestly, how many of you have watched Dallas this year? Just saying.

- TexasFlood


I definitely don't dismiss them as pretenders, there is plenty of talent and firepower on that squad and I really like their style of play.

The only question I have is when will Spezza and Hemsky go out injured - because they always do.

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Dec 12 @ 9:34 PM ET
I definitely don't dismiss them as pretenders, there is plenty of talent and firepower on that squad and I really like their style of play.

The only question I have is when will Spezza and Hemsky go out injured - because they always do.

- RickJ


It's still early but I can't dismiss a team with +26 goal differential which is best in the west and 2nd overall.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM ET
Bickell handled him but he still looked bigger than BB too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OAtQKsIq4w

- tredbrta


Thanks for the video. Is it just me and I know it's a small sample size, but the games Bickell has been up he looks faster and more solid on his skates.
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