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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Dec 12 @ 4:49 PM ET
We won't be able to trade scuds, not even for a 7th. Better we just demote him and bring up DP. Then we have wars and cleds and even lovejoy rotating every couple of games... I really don't think we need another top 4 puck moving d.

I do think by deadline either kuni or perron gets traded both are ufas I think, or does kuni have another year. Anyways I think moving horn is not the smartest move
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Dec 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
We won't be able to trade scuds, not even for a 7th. Better we just demote him and bring up DP. Then we have wars and cleds and even lovejoy rotating every couple of games... I really don't think we need another top 4 puck moving d.

I do think by deadline either kuni or perron gets traded both are ufas I think, or does kuni have another year. Anyways I think moving horn is not the smartest move

- nh4442

Kuni has another year. Moving Perron would bring very little to nothing in so I doubt they move him.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 12 @ 5:07 PM ET
We won't be able to trade scuds, not even for a 7th. Better we just demote him and bring up DP. Then we have wars and cleds and even lovejoy rotating every couple of games... I really don't think we need another top 4 puck moving d.

I do think by deadline either kuni or perron gets traded both are ufas I think, or does kuni have another year. Anyways I think moving horn is not the smartest move

- nh4442



Kunitz might have more value than Perron in a deadline deal... if a team just wants a winger who isn't there for a few months. Hard to gauge vs a pure rental who isn't doing that much better.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 12 @ 5:23 PM ET
Before they go off trading everybody for who knows what and call guys up to do who knows what. Let Sully see what he has in his squad with his own approach first. It may turn being a much more sound and consistent team then what's been iced so far this season. This move was made sooner than most thought best make the most of it.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Dec 12 @ 5:52 PM ET
I was thinking during last nights game that there was a time when the LA Kings would have traded Kopitar,Doughty, and extras for Malkin in a heartbeat

Imagine if the Penguins had the stones to make that trade back then?
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Dec 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
Kuni has another year. Moving Perron would bring very little to nothing in so I doubt they move him.
- Zac_O


I like Perron and it seems he is good chums with letang now so maybe he could be resigned for the same price or just slightly higher. The team needs LWs and he's been fine with kessel and malkin
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Dec 12 @ 6:01 PM ET
I like Perron and it seems he is good chums with letang now so maybe he could be resigned for the same price or just slightly higher. The team needs LWs and he's been fine with kessel and malkin
- drummer829


You want to give Perron MORE money?

Honestly, Perron is a candidate for not getting any deal with term at all and going to a team on a "1 year prove it" deal

assuming that doesn't work out next stop beyond that would be on the PTO train

I'd offer him 3 year 9/10 million and dare him not to take it....
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Dec 12 @ 6:24 PM ET
You want to give Perron MORE money?

Honestly, Perron is a candidate for not getting any deal with term at all and going to a team on a "1 year prove it" deal

assuming that doesn't work out next stop beyond that would be on the PTO train

I'd offer him 3 year 9/10 million and dare him not to take it....

- TheGame316

Perron is decent but he's entering into Dan Cleary, Teddy Purcell, Michael Renberg territory.....you're supposed to be a scorer, but you don't really score, and you don't really do much else so....
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Dec 12 @ 6:31 PM ET
Perron is decent but he's entering into Dan Cleary, Teddy Purcell, Michael Renberg territory.....you're supposed to be a scorer, but you don't really score, and you don't really do much else so....
- Jeropotato

I like Perron but we gave up way too much for him. It should have been eberle in that deal. Now he isn't scoring but is helping create plays for geno and kessel. Something I think plot can do just fine.

I would resign perron for another 2 yrs at same price. Unless we trade him for Jagr
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 12 @ 6:31 PM ET
You want to give Perron MORE money?

Honestly, Perron is a candidate for not getting any deal with term at all and going to a team on a "1 year prove it" deal

assuming that doesn't work out next stop beyond that would be on the PTO train

I'd offer him 3 year 9/10 million and dare him not to take it....

- TheGame316


id move on from Perron. I think he will test FA anyway.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 12 @ 6:32 PM ET
id move on from Perron. I think he will test FA anyway.
- sammy87


So, how much would you pay for him... on a 1-2 year prove it contract, should he decide he wants to stick around in Pittsburgh?

2.5 a year... 3 mil?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Dec 12 @ 6:33 PM ET
Also baby pens are on ch 22/812 @ 7pm
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Dec 12 @ 6:33 PM ET
I like Perron but we gave up way too much for him. It should have been eberle in that deal. Now he isn't scoring but is helping create plays for geno and kessel. Something I think plot can do just fine.

I would resign perron for another 2 yrs at same price. Unless we trade him for Jagr

- nh4442

You weren't getting Eberle for a 1st and Klinkhammer .dont blame the GM, that trade wasn't happening.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 12 @ 6:39 PM ET
Recchi behind the bench with HC Leach in WBS tonight
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Dec 12 @ 6:39 PM ET
You weren't getting Eberle for a 1st and Klinkhammer .dont blame the GM, that trade wasn't happening.
- Jeropotato

A 1st and a d prospect could have gotten him.. I don't think Perron was worth a 1st and if they do try to trade him. I hope they get something 1st rd ish back
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 12 @ 6:43 PM ET
So, how much would you pay for him... on a 1-2 year prove it contract, should he decide he wants to stick around in Pittsburgh?

2.5 a year... 3 mil?

- Guile


1 yr, 2mil max. i think hes a dime a dozen.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 12 @ 6:44 PM ET
A 1st and a d prospect could have gotten him.. I don't think Perron was worth a 1st and if they do try to trade him. I hope they get something 1st rd ish back
- nh4442


eberle is soft, pens dont need him or any player like him.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Dec 12 @ 6:46 PM ET
eberle is soft, pens dont need him or any player like him.
- sammy87

He is who he is...but the Oilers weren't giving him up for a 1st and a prospect, unless the prospect was special.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 12 @ 6:47 PM ET
A 1st and a d prospect could have gotten him.. I don't think Perron was worth a 1st and if they do try to trade him. I hope they get something 1st rd ish back
- nh4442


Hahahahahah no. 1st and D prospect was not getting Eberle.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 12 @ 6:47 PM ET
1 yr, 2mil max. i think hes a dime a dozen.
- sammy87



Gotcha, was wondering how high an anti Perron would go to retain... as much as he seems heading for a poop 1 year deal, I think he will get about 3 mil because hes gotten A LOT more on this current deal.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 12 @ 6:48 PM ET
Before they go off trading everybody for who knows what and call guys up to do who knows what. Let Sully see what he has in his squad with his own approach first. It may turn being a much more sound and consistent team then what's been iced so far this season. This move was made sooner than most thought best make the most of it.
- Reverend Killtaker


I guess that "grin" he gave you the other night had something to do with knowing what was about to happen. No doubt MJ was out whether they won last night or not.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Dec 12 @ 6:49 PM ET
Hahahahahah no. 1st and D prospect was not getting Eberle.
- j.boyd919

I like how Perron wasn't worth A 1st but hopes to get a 1st in return? Has his value increased THAT much since being a Pen?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 12 @ 6:53 PM ET
Gotcha, was wondering how high an anti Perron would go to retain... as much as he seems heading for a poop 1 year deal, I think he will get about 3 mil because hes gotten A LOT more on this current deal.
- Guile


2 years, 6 mil. He's playing with Malkin and Kessel in a contract year and he's not exactly lighting it up. I like parts of his game, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to sign him unless it's a team friendly deal.

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 12 @ 6:55 PM ET
I like how Perron wasn't worth A 1st but hopes to get a 1st in return? Has his value increased THAT much since being a Pen?
- Jeropotato


Pretty sure it went down...
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Dec 12 @ 7:04 PM ET
I like how Perron wasn't worth A 1st but hopes to get a 1st in return? Has his value increased THAT much since being a Pen?
- Jeropotato

Yup plus you got to get what you gave
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