Larkin Tereasenko Schwartz Nutusckin aren't 25 they get first line minutes
- VANTEL

Nichushkin - average 13mins - 3 goals, 9 pts.
tarasenko - 4th year in the league and 3rd full season - his first season, he was benched and sat some games (as well as injury).
schwartz - age 23 has only played 7 games this season.
larkin - drafted 15th over all. 19 pts in 26 games.

i really would like to which specific players you want on the first line? which players do you think deserve to play more.

larken is the only one playing 1st line minutes but he is producing at a 1st liner's pace.

i haven't watched a lot of the wings but would be curious to know if he started at that spot or was moved up. either way, his play is commanding the minutes. which young players on the canucks do you think deserve 1st line minutes based on their play?

At times, with the pp, I think the Sedins are over played. Can't remember which game, but I think there was a double minor and the Sedins were out there for about 3 of the 4 minutes. I can understand if the 2nd unit is really sucking but at the time I thought McCann was playing well enough to get some pp time, and the Sedins didn't look very fresh.

I have been frustrated at other times and the next thing you know, they score. Riding your best players makes sense, and you ride them when they aren't hot to get them going. But it has to be similar to Miller, at times rest is needed and you have to see what others can do.

The lines WD rolls with can be frustrating. But I am not sure if other coaches would deploy players differently.

Nichushkin - average 13mins - 3 goals, 9 pts.
tarasenko - 4th year in the league and 3rd full season - his first season, he was benched and sat some games (as well as injury).
schwartz - age 23 has only played 7 games this season.
larkin - drafted 15th over all. 19 pts in 26 games.

i really would like to which specific players you want on the first line? which players do you think deserve to play more.

larken is the only one playing 1st line minutes but he is producing at a 1st liner's pace.

i haven't watched a lot of the wings but would be curious to know if he started at that spot or was moved up. either way, his play is commanding the minutes. which young players on the canucks do you think deserve 1st line minutes based on their play?
- RealityChecker

The wings started the season with Datsyuk, Helm and Richards ( I think) on the shelf and were using Larkin a lot because they needed him to, since they have gotten healthy he is still getting minutes because he has earned them.

Larkin Tereasenko Schwartz Nutusckin aren't 25 they get first line minutes
- VANTEL

Nushiskin plays 10 minutes a night (so, no. he did play lots last night, but that was cause he was on fire), Shwartz/Tarasenko have combined for over 150 points as linemates and continue to produce at a massive level night after night(thus earning their icetime). Larkin is the Calder favorite and is ,again, consistently getting points and playing well. Who out of the kids has been consistent like that? McCann has been good, but when was his last point? More icetime means you are doing it every night (like the Sedins have been, clearly). At this point I'd like to see Shink get a 4-7 game trial, he's earned it and our 2nd and 3rd line suck right now if I'm being honest.

Does anyone have a video of Mccann being tossed around by Getzlaf?

At times, with the pp, I think the Sedins are over played. Can't remember which game, but I think there was a double minor and the Sedins were out there for about 3 of the 4 minutes. I can understand if the 2nd unit is really sucking but at the time I thought McCann was playing well enough to get some pp time, and the Sedins didn't look very fresh.

I have been frustrated at other times and the next thing you know, they score. Riding your best players makes sense, and you ride them when they aren't hot to get them going. But it has to be similar to Miller, at times rest is needed and you have to see what others can do.

The lines WD rolls with can be frustrating. But I am not sure if other coaches would deploy players differently.
- hillbillydeluxe

They wouldn't play prust-crack-dors in an offensive zone start when down by 1 and time winding down to a close.

At times, with the pp, I think the Sedins are over played. Can't remember which game, but I think there was a double minor and the Sedins were out there for about 3 of the 4 minutes. I can understand if the 2nd unit is really sucking but at the time I thought McCann was playing well enough to get some pp time, and the Sedins didn't look very fresh.

I have been frustrated at other times and the next thing you know, they score. Riding your best players makes sense, and you ride them when they aren't hot to get them going. But it has to be similar to Miller, at times rest is needed and you have to see what others can do.

The lines WD rolls with can be frustrating. But I am not sure if other coaches would deploy players differently.
- hillbillydeluxe

For sure. I have definitely been wondering when some guys will pick up the slack with any consistency, I'm just not a optimist at this point and think it's not happening and we need to sell.

For sure. I have definitely been wondering when some guys will pick up the slack with any consistency, I'm just not a optimist at this point and think it's not happening and we need to sell.
- neem55

We've needed to sell the last 2-3 yrs, I just hope they finally realize that and start a proper rebuild. I just can't let myself get to upset about this team because to get better it will have to get worse, so just except it and call for it. The last few years this organization has not been about putting a proper product on the ice, it's been about marketing the crap they have and finding ways to continually squeeze as much as possible out of this fan base. Ownership is not going to allow a full proper rebuild because of greed, it will have to be stuffed into their faces. We need a couple of season ending injuries to force their hands.

Larkin Tereasenko Schwartz Nutusckin aren't 25 they get first line minutes
- VANTEL

Dont forget monahan and gaudreau, barkov huberdeau i believe Ryan Strome also plays 1st line.

Dont forget monahan and gaudreau, barkov huberdeau i believe Ryan Strome also plays 1st line.
- SRam19

yup .saying a player is not worthy of top minutes because he is not 25 is just nuts

Dont forget monahan and gaudreau, barkov huberdeau i believe Ryan Strome also plays 1st line.
- SRam19

monahan, barkov, huberdeau and strome were top 5 picks.
strome is 22 and is still only averaging 15 mins/game (less than that the last few games). the canucks just don't have the players/prospects that can jump right into a top 6 (or top 3) spot. i'd also add that 4 of those players weren't given significant minutes until they hit their early 20's.

the jumping off point for this discussion was vantel claiming that the sedins are getting too much offensive zone starts, pp time and toi to the detriment of other players' offensive play.

i just don't see who deserves more time at the expense of the sedins. the team does not have top 5 picks that are riding the pine. they do have some rookies that are playing 10ish minutes but haven't shown that they are top liners... yet. as the season continues and their play dictates, they (mccann) will get more time and better minutes.

yup .saying a player is not worthy of top minutes because he is not 25 is just nuts
- VANTEL

lol, that's exactly what i said.

"sorry kid, you're still only 24. i know your birthday is at midnight but until then, you're still 3rd line."

my point is that the team does not have youngsters who are emerging into their potential. this generally happens at around 25.

but sure, i meant that 25 years of age is an ABSOLUTE line in the sand. that's exactly what i was saying.

yup .saying a player is not worthy of top minutes because he is not 25 is just nuts
- VANTEL

The big difference is the sheer number of rookies that we have. I do not belive that they are being held back by the twins. Look at hutton, hes a rookie playing well and getting decent ice time, WD must be ruining him right? No is just that he had been consistent so he had earned his ice.
If Sutter was not injured we would be winning a little more and the sky would not be falling.

monahan, barkov, huberdeau and strome were top 5 picks.
strome is 22 and is still only averaging 15 mins/game (less than that the last few games). the canucks just don't have the players/prospects that can jump right into a top 6 (or top 3) spot. i'd also add that 4 of those players weren't given significant minutes until they hit their early 20's.

the jumping off point for this discussion was vantel claiming that the sedins are getting too much offensive zone starts, pp time and toi to the detriment of other players' offensive play.

i just don't see who deserves more time at the expense of the sedins. the team does not have top 5 picks that are riding the pine. they do have some rookies that are playing 10ish minutes but haven't shown that they are top liners... yet. as the season continues and their play dictates, they (mccann) will get more time and better minutes.
- RealityChecker

We don't have a top 5 pick riding the pine? I guess in a crazy way that is correct but we have a number 6 pick who sees the pressbox every other game. Does that fall into e category close but no cigar

lol, that's exactly what i said.

"sorry kid, you're still only 24. i know your birthday is at midnight but until then, you're still 3rd line."

my point is that the team does not have youngsters who are emerging into their potential. this generally happens at around 25.

but sure, i meant that 25 years of age is an ABSOLUTE line in the sand. that's exactly what i was saying.
- RealityChecker

You posted it not me.

We don't have a top 5 pick riding the pine? I guess in a crazy way that is correct but we have a number 6 pick who sees the pressbox every other game. Does that fall into e category close but no cigar
- VANTEL

Hilarious.

The argument around town is whether to send said top 6 pick back to juniour... But in Vantel's world he should be on the first line. That is the real debate right? B/c he has shown that he deserves it.

The big difference is the sheer number of rookies that we have. I do not belive that they are being held back by the twins. Look at hutton, hes a rookie playing well and getting decent ice time, WD must be ruining him right? No is just that he had been consistent so he had earned his ice.
If Sutter was not injured we would be winning a little more and the sky would not be falling.
- Pres.cup

The sky is not falling . I said they would finish 23 in the summer they are at 21. Close enough for me what I expected

monahan, barkov, huberdeau and strome were top 5 picks.
strome is 22 and is still only averaging 15 mins/game (less than that the last few games). the canucks just don't have the players/prospects that can jump right into a top 6 (or top 3) spot. i'd also add that 4 of those players weren't given significant minutes until they hit their early 20's.

the jumping off point for this discussion was vantel claiming that the sedins are getting too much offensive zone starts, pp time and toi to the detriment of other players' offensive play.

i just don't see who deserves more time at the expense of the sedins. the team does not have top 5 picks that are riding the pine. they do have some rookies that are playing 10ish minutes but haven't shown that they are top liners... yet. as the season continues and their play dictates, they (mccann) will get more time and better minutes.
- RealityChecker

Thats pretty irrelevant what about Brandon Saad?

Hilarious.

The argument around town is whether to send said top 6 pick back to juniour... But in Vantel's world he should be on the first line. That is the real debate right? B/c he has shown that he deserves it.
- RealityChecker

Have you heard me once say JV should be on the top line? I have heard you say he doesn't because he is not 25

You posted it not me.
- VANTEL

lol, you really need to change up the prescription on your reading glasses.

this is what i posted:
the problem is that horvat, mccan, hutton, boesser, demko aren't 25 years old.

2-4 of those guys (let's pray that all) will develop into impact players. that is when the team will hope to truly contend again.

that is what our player personnel decisions should be based on: a 3-5 year plan.


explain to me how this means that only 25 year old and above get first line minutes.
i'll wait...

Thats pretty irrelevant what about Brandon Saad?
- SRam19

and where did i state that only 25 year olds should get 1st line minutes?

which youngsters do you think should get more/better minutes at the expense of the sedins. i just don't see who is being deprived due to the sedins getting too much. that is the ridiculous argument that vantel is trying to make.

lol, you really need to change up the prescription on your reading glasses.

this is what i posted:
the problem is that horvat, mccan, hutton, boesser, demko aren't 25 years old.

2-4 of those guys (let's pray that all) will develop into impact players. that is when the team will hope to truly contend again.

that is what our player personnel decisions should be based on: a 3-5 year plan.


explain to me how this means that only 25 year old and above get first line minutes.
i'll wait...
- RealityChecker

You talk about me getting old

you posted that in response to someone saying the don't deserve top minutes

You talk about me getting old

you posted that in response to someone saying the don't deserve top minutes
- VANTEL

keep trying to create those straw man arguments.

in the context of that discussion, i was stating that they are not close to their potential and have not shown they deserve more/better minutes.

but, yeah, keep making stuff up and tilting at those wind mills. you never cease to make me laugh. unintended comedy is sometimes the best.

The big difference is the sheer number of rookies that we have. I do not belive that they are being held back by the twins. Look at hutton, hes a rookie playing well and getting decent ice time, WD must be ruining him right? No is just that he had been consistent so he had earned his ice.
If Sutter was not injured we would be winning a little more and the sky would not be falling.
- Pres.cup

Agreed.

keep trying to create those straw man arguments.

in the context of that discussion, i was stating that they are not close to their potential and have not shown they deserve more/better minutes.

but, yeah, keep making stuff up and tilting at those wind mills. you never cease to make me laugh. unintended comedy is sometimes the best.
- RealityChecker

Making it up


I am sure on page 2 of this blog 10 th post down has you answering Neem 55 remark ,to no one really deserves first line minutes .

Then you responded the problem is Horvat MCCann Demko Hutton and Boeser are not 25.


Would have copied and pasted it but it has already been posted once , no need for something that ridiculous to be posted twice.

Doesn't seem like I really made it up.