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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:14 PM ET
Lols...

fed action in the states plays a huge part in how the C$ trades against the US$ and yes, deficits/ debt matter.

i didn't start the conversation, so don't just selectively jump in with your attack. if you've got a problem with talking economics or the politics that influence the economy then you should shut the conversation down with the first post on the topic and not the response or X number of comments in just cuz you don't like the message.




- kaptaan


The original post was that the C$ was extremely low compared to currencies in USA and Europe. I can read between the lines on most topics, but A_SL never made mention of who, why or what to blame. YOU went there.

You purposely identified the new gov't after 6 weeks in power as the cause, because they campaigned on investing in infrastructure and running a deficit... your response was Sun Media propaganda plain and simple.

So if you think "I just selectively jump in with your attack" maybe you should reread what was posted and what you replied and take onus for your post instead of deflecting with inaccuracies.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:16 PM ET
I wonder if WD puts his lines together with a dartboard.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I'd guess he has some sort of astrological approach in conjunction with chicken bones and some Jamaican Rum, all the while wearing a native american head dress, tux jacket, grease stained white t shirt and cut off shorts with JC sandals and navy blue socks... and aviator ray-bans. boom shock a locka

you can get a dart board anywhere, that would mean anyone would be able to coach.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:19 PM ET
I'd guess he has some sort of astrological approach in conjunction with chicken bones and some Jamaican Rum, all the while wearing a native american head dress, tux jacket, grease stained white t shirt and cut off shorts with JC sandals and navy blue socks... and aviator ray-bans. boom shock a locka

you can get a dart board anywhere, that would mean anyone would be able to coach.

- hillbillydeluxe

with all the superstitions in hockey he should give your suggestion some thought what's to lose...maybe some Jamaican rum.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:21 PM ET
The reasoning might have more to do with getting Bo going, than McCann. As mentioned yesterday, he has not looked great thus far.
The sophomore jinx is real. Seems to happen to everyone.

- dbot


I think WD and JB are feeling the heat.

Slow start from Bo and Vrbata, essentially our second line hasn't been doing anything.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:25 PM ET
with all the superstitions in hockey he should give your suggestion some thought what's to lose...maybe some Jamaican rum.
- Makita


I always think of that old Major League movie and the player talking to his bat.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 3 @ 4:32 PM ET
I'd guess he has some sort of astrological approach in conjunction with chicken bones and some Jamaican Rum, all the while wearing a native american head dress, tux jacket, grease stained white t shirt and cut off shorts with JC sandals and navy blue socks... and aviator ray-bans. boom shock a locka

you can get a dart board anywhere, that would mean anyone would be able to coach.

- hillbillydeluxe


Jobu




hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:43 PM ET

That's it!

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
Miller will lose tonight & Saturday. They always find an excuse to play Miller.
- Marwood


Trying to up his trade value?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 3 @ 5:03 PM ET
Trying to up his trade value?
- neem55


wishful thinking...
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 3 @ 5:23 PM ET
2 things i want to see right now.

Edler forced to waive and adds nyi to the list.
JB lights a fire under WD...literally.

the vrb and hammer traded for assets

hutton-hamonic'
pedan-tanev
sbisa-bart
weber

- Retinalz


yes....I wonder why its taking so long.

btw Im shocked to see you move edler and hamius, our 2 most seasoned and elistist D yet chose to keep weber on the team.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 3 @ 5:24 PM ET
I wonder if WD puts his lines together with a dartboard.
- A_SteamingLombardi

this makes sense
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 3 @ 5:26 PM ET
yes....I wonder why its taking so long.

btw Im shocked to see you move edler and hamius, our 2 most seasoned and elistist D....yet chose to keep weber on the team.

- SMBDragon

nobody will trade for weber. i would rather our current ahl d get games and call-ups and he sits all season long.

he is literally 7th in name and wouldnt play at all. kill his career.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 3 @ 5:27 PM ET
What this team needs is an NHL level coach and even more so a NHL level D coach.
Gulutzen is fine....can the others. Poor performance.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 3 @ 5:29 PM ET
nobody will trade for weber. i would rather our current ahl d get games and call-ups and he sits all season long.

he is literally 7th in name and wouldnt play at all. kill his career.

- Retinalz


ya I wondered the same. no trade value. And yes I'd rather the comets guys get called up than use weber.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 3 @ 5:36 PM ET
The original post was that the C$ was extremely low compared to currencies in USA and Europe. I can read between the lines on most topics, but A_SL never made mention of who, why or what to blame. YOU went there.

You purposely identified the new gov't after 6 weeks in power as the cause, because they campaigned on investing in infrastructure and running a deficit... your response was Sun Media propaganda plain and simple.

So if you think "I just selectively jump in with your attack" maybe you should reread what was posted and what you replied and take onus for your post instead of deflecting with inaccuracies.

- Makita

Now you've done it...here come the Dale Weise analogies...

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 3 @ 5:49 PM ET
Miller starting tonight

I think I'm gonna cancel my cable until we have an NHL coach and management team in place

- PetrolSexual



Is it a one or two muffin night?

I'm not ready to hang coaching and MNGT just yet. See what they do with the full developmental process after TDL and next season when HOPEFULLY most or all of the old core are gone.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 5:49 PM ET
Now you've done it...here come the Dale Weise analogies...


- LordHumungous


Sorry man....but just think, if Weise still played here we would have a cup by now..
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 3 @ 6:05 PM ET


Is it a one or two muffin night?

I'm not ready to hang coaching and MNGT just yet. See what they do with the full developmental process after TDL and next season when HOPEFULLY most or all of the old core are gone.

- LordHumungous

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 3 @ 6:19 PM ET
I was at work earlier so I couldn't respond to the talk about a Hansen trade proposal I was suggesting.

Let's be clear about a couple of things. I agree Hansen brings it every game. He is right now our third best forward, and I can't begin to tell you how pathetic that is. He is a third liner playing on the first line. It lets you know the talent level of this team. Same as Higgens playing second line.

Hansen is having his aha Dale Weise moment. He still has hands of stone. He will come back down to earth. After the smoke clears he will still be a very good third liner.

Trading him to a bubble team when his stock is skyrocketing means you can get back a first round pick. A team like NJ Phi TB WPG all bunched up on the outside of the playoffs will get a 12 - 19 th pick , where we could enjoy many years of a Dante Fabbro or Tryler Benson or that 6'5 winger from Halifax .

Hamhuis and Vrbata are not going to get us a first round pick but Hansen could. Just remember boys and girls he is playing way over his head right now, and should soon return to his regular third line duties , when they hit a dry stretch.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 3 @ 6:36 PM ET
I was at work earlier so I couldn't respond to the talk about a Hansen trade proposal I was suggesting.

Let's be clear about a couple of things. I agree Hansen brings it every game. He is right now our third best forward, and I can't begin to tell you how pathetic that is. He is a third liner playing on the first line. It lets you know the talent level of this team. Same as Higgens playing second line.

Hansen is having his aha Dale Weise moment. He still has hands of stone. He will come back down to earth. After the smoke clears he will still be a very good third liner.

Trading him to a bubble team when his stock is skyrocketing means you can get back a first round pick. A team like NJ Phi TB WPG all bunched up on the outside of the playoffs will get a 12 - 19 th pick , where we could enjoy many years of a Dante Fabbro or Tryler Benson or that 6'5 winger from Halifax .

Hamhuis and Vrbata are not going to get us a first round pick but Hansen could. Just remember boys and girls he is playing way over his head right now, and should soon return to his regular third line duties , when they hit a dry stretch.

- VANTEL

Thanks for detailing your thoughts.
I don't necessarily agree but I see your point.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 3 @ 6:50 PM ET
Thanks for detailing your thoughts.
I don't necessarily agree but I see your point.

- Marwood

I really do understand the attachment fans get for players. Some recent picks by clubs around the 12 -21 spot in the last three years. Sanheim Pasternak Larkin Barzal . I would take those young guys over Hansen any time.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 6:57 PM ET
I really do understand the attachment fans get for players. Some recent picks by clubs around the 12 -21 spot in the last three years. Sanheim Pasternak Larkin Barzal . I would take those young guys over Hansen any time.
- VANTEL


The thing about trading known quantities for draft picks is that it is a risk.
This is the fundamental difference imo between fans who clamor for change or 'get attached to players'.
There is no guarantee that we would get improved value with a draft pick.

Hansen is great value, signed for years.
Is he a true first liner? No, i agree he is a great 3rd liner (and paid accordingly).
I would vote for holding onto him for now and perhaps trading him as we get closer to his end of contract (2-3 yrs from now).

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 3 @ 7:01 PM ET
The thing about trading known quantities for draft picks is that it is a risk.
This is the fundamental difference imo between fans who clamor for change or 'get attached to players'.
There is no guarantee that we would get improved value with a draft pick.

Hansen is great value, signed for years.
Is he a true first liner? No, i agree he is a great 3rd liner (and paid accordingly).
I would vote for holding onto him for now and perhaps trading him as we get closer to his end of contract (2-3 yrs from now).

- dbot

Agree.
And agree.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 7:03 PM ET
Agree.
And agree.

- Marwood


And no mention of being flagged?
Things are looking up.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 3 @ 7:06 PM ET
The thing about trading known quantities for draft picks is that it is a risk.
This is the fundamental difference imo between fans who clamor for change or 'get attached to players'.
There is no guarantee that we would get improved value with a draft pick.

Hansen is great value, signed for years.
Is he a true first liner? No, i agree he is a great 3rd liner (and paid accordingly).
I would vote for holding onto him for now and perhaps trading him as we get closer to his end of contract (2-3 yrs from now).

- dbot

Then you won't get a first round pick if you wait. NYI in the last two years traded for first round picks where they picked up players like Barzal and Ho-Sang. Very decent . Canuck in the last three years have traded for two first round picks Horvat and McCann. Very happy with both of those players. I honestly wouldn't mind a PMD Fabbro or a 6'5 winger at the expense of Hansen.

Hansen has one more year at 2.5 , he will want a Burrows type deal after that.
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