?? never heard of em'...
- kaptaan

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Lols...

i'm going for a walk... nice weather outside... 10 C

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- Makita[url]

Link didnt' work for me.. not sure if it's the link or the machine..

guys like him need to have some guys around him with Edge... Leftcoaster was saying this the other day.

He'd be fine if there were guys with some push and size around...

Sedins make a lot of turnovers with their plays at the blue line... Hamhuis isn't as bad as he looks right now. He's not playing with a complimentary partner.

Getting rid of Garrison was one of those ridiculous player moves. The guy was solid in his own end and cleared the front of the net. Plus he had size and grit. Not sure what drugs JB was on moving a BC guy to Tampa. I was against that move from day 1.

IMO, There's some locker room issue if these guys aren't standing up for each other...

Marwood must be happy with the current situation though... isn't he in charge of the tank brigade?
- kaptaan

Sorry Capt. getting rid of Garrison was necessary. Canucks for years have a bunch of players that munch minutes, and play not to lose.

This team has very few role players and the ones they do bring in are not that good.

This team is getting old with the vets. eventuall it needs a strip down nd rebuild.

T-Rex memorial area 1973, then Nazareth memorial area 1975?
- Makita

T Rex...nice.

Im thinking more on the lines of edler and Hamhuis, Miller has played well enough to keep us in the games.
- SRam19

Yes and no. The difference between Miller at this stage of his career now is just like Corey Hirsch said in the pre game last night. Right now he has no ability to make the timely save we need and to keep the game at 2 goals or less. Sure our horrible D is a massive part of that but still look at the ANA game and last night...both games the third goals were the killers. If you look at the top 16 teams right now what do they mostly have? A goalie that can keep games at 2 GPG. Those goalies are giving their teams a chance to win every night...we don't have that with Miller right now. 3-4 GPG just isn't going to cut it. Miller may look great at times but much like Lou was...he's good for a few peaches per game now and we have to know what we get with Miller at this stage of his career.

It's tough for me to hang last night on Miller anyway as he should not have been in net. Markstrom had earned last nights start from the LA game. Coaching blunder mostly by WD starting Miller.

Yes and no. The difference between Miller at this stage of his career now is just like Corey Hirsch said in the pre game last night. Right now he has no ability to make the timely save we need and to keep the game at 2 goals or less. Sure our horrible D is a massive part of that but still look at the ANA game and last night...both games the third goals were the killers. If you look at the top 16 teams right now what do they mostly have? A goalie that can keep games at 2 GPG. Those goalies are giving their teams a chance to win every night...we don't have that with Miller right now. 3-4 GPG just isn't going to cut it. Miller may look great at times but much like Lou was...he's good for a few peaches per game now and we have to know what we get with Miller at this stage of his career.

It's tough for me to hang last night on Miller anyway as he should not have been in net. Markstrom had earned last nights start from the LA game. Coaching blunder mostly by WD starting Miller.
- LordHumungous

If MG had stuck to his original plan and traded Schneider (after the LA series in 2012) then we would have still had Luo and would have gotten an infusion of picks and prospects that would have been contributing at this stage... Anyways our GM f* up the program...

How do we move forward? We trade all those guys I have been mentioning since the dog days of summer at the TDL and move forward with a whole new set of players plus the Sedins, Tanev, and the young guys we got now... we need to trade all these guys and have like 20 picks in this draft...

Yes and no. The difference between Miller at this stage of his career now is just like Corey Hirsch said in the pre game last night. Right now he has no ability to make the timely save we need and to keep the game at 2 goals or less. Sure our horrible D is a massive part of that but still look at the ANA game and last night...both games the third goals were the killers. If you look at the top 16 teams right now what do they mostly have? A goalie that can keep games at 2 GPG. Those goalies are giving their teams a chance to win every night...we don't have that with Miller right now. 3-4 GPG just isn't going to cut it. Miller may look great at times but much like Lou was...he's good for a few peaches per game now and we have to know what we get with Miller at this stage of his career.

It's tough for me to hang last night on Miller anyway as he should not have been in net. Markstrom had earned last nights start from the LA game. Coaching blunder mostly by WD starting Miller.
- LordHumungous

Miller had some beauty saves last night and also had a couple of poor ones. He was rock solid to start the year and didn't look nearly as scrambley as he has of late. Part of that is the D but I would like to see that "calming veteran presence" that Benning paid for.

Regardless you don't win many games in this league with only 16 shots, this team is afraid to lose and I think it comes from WD.

His telling moment last night was after a dominant Sedin shift when Dallas iced it with 2 rookie D and the 4th line on in a 2-2 game with ~ 9min left.

He could of taken a TO and rested the Sedin line, he could of played a rested 2nd or 3rd line but instead he played Dorset, Cracknell and Prust.

It was a waste of a golden opportunity, which ended up being a shift where our 4th line ended up being stuck in their own zone against the Benn line.

Yes and no. The difference between Miller at this stage of his career now is just like Corey Hirsch said in the pre game last night. Right now he has no ability to make the timely save we need and to keep the game at 2 goals or less. Sure our horrible D is a massive part of that but still look at the ANA game and last night...both games the third goals were the killers. If you look at the top 16 teams right now what do they mostly have? A goalie that can keep games at 2 GPG. Those goalies are giving their teams a chance to win every night...we don't have that with Miller right now. 3-4 GPG just isn't going to cut it. Miller may look great at times but much like Lou was...he's good for a few peaches per game now and we have to know what we get with Miller at this stage of his career.

It's tough for me to hang last night on Miller anyway as he should not have been in net. Markstrom had earned last nights start from the LA game. Coaching blunder mostly by WD starting Miller.
- LordHumungous

I know lineup decisions generally fall on the coach but wonder how much of available personnel is a gm decision? Or collaborative? Miller is the #1, it is still early in the season, the team is struggling (sounds generous) and WD is to a certain extent, almost obliged to go with JB's guys or the veterans.

Saw a little bit of TH2N and it was pointed out on one of the goals against, none of the personnel on the ice were inexperienced, I think it was Hamhuis and Weber on the d, just guys making poor choices.

I enjoy seeing the kids being given different roles and stuff, but understand WD's tendency to lean on the vets to get through tough patches or late in a game. Maybe I have been listening to Tony G too much, but if they aren't getting it done, can't blame the rookies, is it the coach or the personnel?

If Sutter wasn't injured, I think we would be a little higher in the standings. I think JB has to make a move or stop female doging about lack of effort or lack of pack mentality.

I don't see a problem . Transition year, lots of young guys playing.We will get our high draft pick and the vets are doing enough to piss off the GM.

As long as Benning changes the personnel throughout the roster then everything is going as we planned last summer

I don't see a problem . Transition year, lots of young guys playing.We will get our high draft pick and the vets are doing enough to piss off the GM.

As long as Benning changes the personnel throughout the roster then everything is going as we planned last summer
- VANTEL

I still don't think this team is bad enough to get that high draft pick.

I don't see a problem . Transition year, lots of young guys playing.We will get our high draft pick and the vets are doing enough to piss off the GM.

As long as Benning changes the personnel throughout the roster then everything is going as we planned last summer
- VANTEL

Just a little disappointing to see the lack of confidence in the play of so many on the roster.

But as you point out, the silver lining, it is going to take some time for this change and these struggles will drive the change, just have to be patient..

I still don't think this team is bad enough to get that high draft pick.
- belcherbd

9 Wins 18 losses says we are. I think we are right around where the Leafs are

I don't see a problem . Transition year, lots of young guys playing.We will get our high draft pick and the vets are doing enough to piss off the GM.

As long as Benning changes the personnel throughout the roster then everything is going as we planned last summer
- VANTEL

guys aren't sticking up for each other. that's one of the reasons I think there's a locker room issue.

hopefully the closed door meeting helps resolve some things...

Just a little disappointing to see the lack of confidence in the play of so many on the roster.

But as you point out, the silver lining, it is going to take some time for this change and these struggles will drive the change, just have to be patient..
- hillbillydeluxe

Burrows Hamhuis Vrbata Higgens are getting old . The head says yes the body says no

guys aren't sticking up for each other. that's one of the reasons I think there's a locker room issue.

hopefully the closed door meeting helps resolve some things...
- kaptaan

Been like that for years

9 Wins 18 losses says we are. I think we are right around where the Leafs are
- VANTEL

I understand that losses are loses but as far as points go it doesn't make any sense to calculate it that way. The points will determine our standing and where we pick.

The Canucks have played the most road games and just went through their toughest part of the schedule while managing to lose a player more or less every game.

They have been the worst team in the NHL in the past 10 games (2-5-3) and they are still better than 9 teams.

If MG had stuck to his original plan and traded Schneider (after the LA series in 2012) then we would have still had Luo and would have gotten an infusion of picks and prospects that would have been contributing at this stage... Anyways our GM f* up the program...

How do we move forward? We trade all those guys I have been mentioning since the dog days of summer at the TDL and move forward with a whole new set of players plus the Sedins, Tanev, and the young guys we got now... we need to trade all these guys and have like 20 picks in this draft...
- kaptaan

yep well said.

Good day, all.

The new blog is up. Wondering if any teams are going to be able to make trades before the Christmas freeze kicks in...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...tting-Desperate/194/73011

I still don't think this team is bad enough to get that high draft pick.
- belcherbd

If Miller and Weber are played more they will be.