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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
Jason Brough ‏@JasonPHT · 8m8 minutes ago
Welcomes backs, Ronalds Kenins.

Looks like we are about to turn it all around.

- hillbillydeluxe


i like it.
we are auditioning the entire comets team this year.
Shink can have his shot when Vrby, Daniel, BearGee go down.
What's the stat line on Kennis??
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
No one like RNH here.
He's not big enough.
Disregard any rational thoughts.

- dbot


RNH is a hell of a player and we would be extremely lucky to grab him from the Oilers...
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
Andrey Pedan ‏@AndreyPedan · 11h11 hours ago
Dreams do come true,really happy about NHL debut tn!Big thanks my parents friends and people who helped me get here!lots of hard work ahead!

TOI: 3:54

I wanted to see him on defense for a shift or two...

- hillbillydeluxe


I understand that Higgins apparently was supposed to be ready to play last night but not calling up a forward when they had an opportunity was a mistake by mgmt.

Why call Pedan up over Biega in the first place if they are not willing to play him on D. Then calling Biega up to replace Tanev and using Pedan to replace Higgins is sloppy. I'm glad Pedan got some shifts and it looked like he was willing to use his size but I don't understand some of the decisions mgmt has been making recently with call ups.

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
i like it.
we are auditioning the entire comets team this year.
Shink can have his shot when Vrby, Daniel, BearGee go down.
What's the stat line on Kennis??

- dbot


Kenins has been injured much of the season, he played a couple of games and missed a few then was out for a bit again and has just recently returned.

7 gp 1 A 8 PIM 8 Sog.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
Brandon Sutter underwent successful Sports Hernia surgery today. Out 4-6 weeks...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
Saturday I will . I am going to the game with an open mind and an empty stomach
- VANTEL

Well that's the opposite of most of the fans at the games, they all have open stomachs and empty minds.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
I understand that Higgins apparently was supposed to be ready to play last night but not calling up a forward when they had an opportunity was a mistake by mgmt.

Why call Pedan up over Biega in the first place if they are not willing to play him on D. Then calling Biega up to replace Tanev and using Pedan to replace Higgins is sloppy. I'm glad Pedan got some shifts and it looked like he was willing to use his size but I don't understand some of the decisions mgmt has been making recently with call ups.

- belcherbd


The rationale, that I heard, was they called up Biega right after the game against the Ducks as insurance for Tanev. Higgins felt okay after the game. Tuesday morning, Higgins wasn't feeling good, and it was too late to recall anyone from Utica, Biega was already on his way.

I was guessing yesterday that Pedan was called up as a reward for good play, practice and hang with the big club, but I don't think WD had any plans of getting Pedan into the lineup before Higgins wasn't ready.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
RNH is a hell of a player and we would be extremely lucky to grab him from the Oilers...
- Codes1087


oh i agree with you.
i have been very impressed with his increased strength and defensive play this year.
preaching to the choir over here.

i don't think we have the kind of players that Edmonton would want for Nuge mind you.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
Well that's the opposite of most of the fans at the games, they all have open stomachs and empty minds.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
oh i agree with you.
i have been very impressed with his increased strength and defensive play this year.
preaching to the choir over here.

i don't think we have the kind of players that Edmonton would want for Nuge mind you.

- dbot


I think EDM is so knee deep in dog sh|t with their goaltending and defense that they would be willing to part with one of their kids for any type of upgrade. Something has to eventually give with that franchise and their forwards.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
Brandon Sutter underwent successful Sports Hernia surgery today. Out 4-6 weeks...
- Codes1087

Jacob Chychrun here we come
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
I'm over in the main thread pitching a Miller Hamhuis Burrows for Hall & picks deal!!

Or RNH...


- LordHumungous



I bet your popular with oil fans there
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:20 PM ET
The rationale, that I heard, was they called up Biega right after the game against the Ducks as insurance for Tanev. Higgins felt okay after the game. Tuesday morning, Higgins wasn't feeling good, and it was too late to recall anyone from Utica, Biega was already on his way.

I was guessing yesterday that Pedan was called up as a reward for good play, practice and hang with the big club, but I don't think WD had any plans of getting Pedan into the lineup before Higgins wasn't ready.

- hillbillydeluxe


I heard that rationale as well but it still doesn't make sense to me.

Higgins was clearly rocked and at the very least must of been a bit questionable, they already had a Dman up as insurance for Tanev, so calling up Biega put all their eggs in one basket.

I don't like the idea of bringing up a player with no intention of getting him the lineup if you need him. Calling Pedan up if they had no faith in playing him hurts the Comets and his development there and is a waste of a healthy body with the big club IMO.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
I think EDM is so knee deep in dog sh|t with their goaltending and defense that they would be willing to part with one of their kids for any type of upgrade. Something has to eventually give with that franchise and their forwards.
- Codes1087


Yeah, i just think other teams would be able/willing to offer better packages than Vancouver.
Edmonton clearly needs help on D and Goal.

Miller is not the answer for Edmonton.
Markstrom is too valuable for us to move at this stage.

Edler? I would be happy to ship out of town. I doubt he waives to go to Edm.
Tanev? would leave a huge hole on our own D. Can't afford to move him imo.
Hamhuis? I value, but he has looked so slow these past couple weeks. I would be willing to move for the right piece and he might be willing to waive to go to Edm (as its close to his hometown of Smithers), but we would have to add. He's an aging UFA....

So...RNH for Hamhuis (with new contract extension guaranteed) and ?
Higgens and Pedan??

not enough. not nearly enough.
I don't think Edmonton needs more picks/prospects.

I think Edmonton could get Hamonic + from NYI.
Something like that makes much more sense.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
Brandon Sutter underwent successful Sports Hernia surgery today. Out 4-6 weeks...
- Codes1087


That sucks...
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:26 PM ET
Yeah, i just think other teams would be able/willing to offer better packages than Vancouver.
Edmonton clearly needs help on D and Goal.

Miller is not the answer for Edmonton.
Markstrom is too valuable for us to move at this stage.

Edler? I would be happy to ship out of town. I doubt he waives to go to Edm.
Tanev? would leave a huge hole on our own D. Can't afford to move him imo.
Hamhuis? I value, but he has looked so slow these past couple weeks. I would be willing to move for the right piece and he might be willing to waive to go to Edm (as its close to his hometown of Smithers), but we would have to add. He's an aging UFA....

So...RNH for Hamhuis (with new contract extension guaranteed) and ?
Higgens and Pedan??

- dbot


There is no way that we get RNH without including some serious talent.

If we want any good young players whether that is RNH or Hamonic or RJ, it is going to cost us guys like Tanev, Horvat, McCann, Demko, Virtanen, they guys you mentioned would only be included to make the salary work.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 2 @ 2:26 PM ET
My guess with Pedan is that Willie and company didn't like what they saw from him in practice once he got here, which is why they ended up being reluctant to play him.

Might be awhile now till we see him again...

Anyway, the new blog is up, with the injury updates and some perspective on the Canucks' brutal schedule through the first two months of the season.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...e-a-Point-in-LA/194/72956
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
No one like RNH here.
He's not big enough.
Disregard any rational thoughts.

- dbot


He's a skill center not a size center, we've had one for quite a while. His name is Henrik Sedin and he will be in the hall of fame one day. Nuge is got a lot of upside, and has finally got his frame over 200. Bo is the d/size center of the future, we need top-end skill, IMO RNH. Also, Humungous Hall isn't going anywhere, he and McJesus are untouchable, the rest maybe not.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 2 @ 3:10 PM ET

I bet your popular with oil fans there

- Redmile247

lol...not really
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 2 @ 3:12 PM ET
No one like RNH here.
He's not big enough.
Disregard any rational thoughts.

- dbot

You need to build with skill as well as toughness. RNH would do well here surrounded with the right linemates. Getting him the right linemates would be the bigger issue than getting him here.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:24 PM ET
There is no way that we get RNH without including some serious talent.

If we want any good young players whether that is RNH or Hamonic or RJ, it is going to cost us guys like Tanev, Horvat, McCann, Demko, Virtanen, they guys you mentioned would only be included to make the salary work.

- belcherbd


agreed.
McCann would need to be included.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:25 PM ET
You need to build with skill as well as toughness. RNH would do well here surrounded with the right linemates. Getting him the right linemates would be the bigger issue than getting him here.
- LordHumungous


Brock - RNH - Jake V
decent top line in 3-5 years.
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