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Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 1 @ 1:08 PM ET
Hey, I was just saying whats in my head to stay positive. Use whatever works for you. Or go slice your wrists because the sky is falling and we should trade everyone and this franchise is a horrible disaster and always will be for 5,000 years.

Whatever floats your boat.

- thickman1178


Nah, why take care of something today when we can just push it off til tomorrow?
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Ok, here is my attempt to lighten up the mood:

"I have certainly made adjustments as far as how you handle these certain situations that come up. I certainly want more communication. Let me put it this way: I'm not going to chase what people think of me and what they think I am, because really you don't know; you don't know how I handle myself in the locker room, you don't know when I'm listening to the players. Everybody just thinks I'm this raging bull and it's my way or the highway, which is so, so wrong. I can't change the thinking on that, so there's no sense in chasing that. But whenever you get into a situation and things didn't work out right, you self-evaluate because you have to. Have I made adjustments? Yes, I have certainly made adjustments. I'm trying to be a better coach, but I am not going to be someone I'm not. I feel very comfortable in my values as a coach and how I think the game should be played. But there are situations that come up that I'm going to handle differently. There already have been. You have to admit you're wrong sometimes. I self-evaluate all the time, and I know I've made some mistakes, some big mistakes, and those are what I'm trying to correct, but also keep my convictions as a coach and person."

Guess the coach.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Where exactly is the proof for this? I've never read this from any respected reporter. I'm not sure I've even seen hacks like Rossi say this.....and he hates Sid.
- madmike71


Yeah, Ive never read it anywhere.

MT had to go. His system didn't fit this team at all and it was time to make a change. Crosby didn't have the clout to get him booted at that point.

Disco had his time and plenty of it. There was nobody who ran him out of town other than management and fans who were sick of seeing no changes. By all accounts the players loved him and he was a players kind of coach. This was all between Disco & Management and had nothing to do with Crosby.

MJ...if he goes this COULD be a Crosby thing. Like I said in one of my previous posts, when Geno was calling people out for not playing in the system like a team, I felt like it was directed at Crosby, but I absolutely have no real way of knowing that and its complete supposition on my part. And with how off Crosby has seemed, and how heartless his play has been at times, it seems like he may be at odds with MJ and/or the system he has put in place.

Either way, Crosby has hardly run 3 coaches out of town.

thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
Nah, why take care of something today when we can just push it off til tomorrow?
- Reverend Killtaker



Well then by all means, please get on the phone to your people in the organization and get the ball rolling on all these changes.

Til then, Ill be a hopeful fan rooting for my team to win and play with some heart. Because at the end of the day we can all piss and moan to each other all we want, but we don't effect the game one single bit.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
I think you can say they didn't really show up during the Disco years in the playoffs. Those game were just brutal. Im not making the leap, just suggesting that IF Sid is revolting against MJ, it might not be the first time.

I do think that MJ has gots to go.

- sammy87


That's a big IF. We really have no idea. For what it's worth, Sid is now tied with Kessel in points....and in the grand scheme of things isn't all that far away from Geno. Would it really surprise anyone if Sid starts picking up the pace and Geno cools off?

What I'm saying is there are so many variables involved over the years, I think it's ridiculous to just pin all the failures on one guy just because he's having an "off" year (so far). Like I said earlier.... Where was all the love for Geno down the stretch last year? He was f'n miserable. He didn't have a point for weeks.

sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
Yeah, Ive never read it anywhere.

MT had to go. His system didn't fit this team at all and it was time to make a change. Crosby didn't have the clout to get him booted at that point.

Disco had his time and plenty of it. There was nobody who ran him out of town other than management and fans who were sick of seeing no changes. By all accounts the players loved him and he was a players kind of coach. This was all between Disco & Management and had nothing to do with Crosby.

MJ...if he goes this COULD be a Crosby thing. Like I said in one of my previous posts, when Geno was calling people out for not playing in the system like a team, I felt like it was directed at Crosby, but I absolutely have no real way of knowing that and its complete supposition on my part. And with how off Crosby has seemed, and how heartless his play has been at times, it seems like he may be at odds with MJ and/or the system he has put in place.

Either way, Crosby has hardly run 3 coaches out of town.

- thickman1178


I would have liked to see Disco stay a bit longer. SHero had to do. He should have been gone after the Boston series. How they handled Disco was pretty lame, wait till JR can fire him....come on. The fact that they did that and still had no clue to replace him just shows has mismanaged the team was/is.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
Ok, here is my attempt to lighten up the mood:

"I have certainly made adjustments as far as how you handle these certain situations that come up. I certainly want more communication. Let me put it this way: I'm not going to chase what people think of me and what they think I am, because really you don't know; you don't know how I handle myself in the locker room, you don't know when I'm listening to the players. Everybody just thinks I'm this raging bull and it's my way or the highway, which is so, so wrong. I can't change the thinking on that, so there's no sense in chasing that. But whenever you get into a situation and things didn't work out right, you self-evaluate because you have to. Have I made adjustments? Yes, I have certainly made adjustments. I'm trying to be a better coach, but I am not going to be someone I'm not. I feel very comfortable in my values as a coach and how I think the game should be played. But there are situations that come up that I'm going to handle differently. There already have been. You have to admit you're wrong sometimes. I self-evaluate all the time, and I know I've made some mistakes, some big mistakes, and those are what I'm trying to correct, but also keep my convictions as a coach and person."

Guess the coach.

- chimpira


With all that self reflection? Gotta be Mike Milbury!
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
If anything it was Orpik was the one bumping heads with MT
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
With all that self reflection? Gotta be Mike Milbury!
- thickman1178


Close, but no cigar.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
That's a big IF. We really have no idea. For what it's worth, Sid is now tied with Kessel in points....and in the grand scheme of things isn't all that far away from Geno. Would it really surprise anyone if Sid starts picking up the pace and Geno cools off?

What I'm saying is there are so many variables involved over the years, I think it's ridiculous to just pin all the failures on one guy just because he's having an "off" year (so far). Like I said earlier.... Where was all the love for Geno down the stretch last year? He was f'n miserable. He didn't have a point for weeks.

- madmike71


Yeah and th whole team was a no show in the playoffs other than MAF, Crosby, PH and Lap.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
I would have liked to see Disco stay a bit longer. SHero had to do. He should have been gone after the Boston series. How they handled Disco was pretty lame, wait till JR can fire him....come on. The fact that they did that and still had no clue to replace him just shows has mismanaged the team was/is.
- sammy87



Yeah they totally botched that and that's why we got MJ. Everyone else was like "what kind of dumpster fire is this"

So hey, that we can at least agree on. Lets call it a day before we go off the rails
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 1 @ 1:23 PM ET
Ok, here is my attempt to lighten up the mood:

"I have certainly made adjustments as far as how you handle these certain situations that come up. I certainly want more communication. Let me put it this way: I'm not going to chase what people think of me and what they think I am, because really you don't know; you don't know how I handle myself in the locker room, you don't know when I'm listening to the players. Everybody just thinks I'm this raging bull and it's my way or the highway, which is so, so wrong. I can't change the thinking on that, so there's no sense in chasing that. But whenever you get into a situation and things didn't work out right, you self-evaluate because you have to. Have I made adjustments? Yes, I have certainly made adjustments. I'm trying to be a better coach, but I am not going to be someone I'm not. I feel very comfortable in my values as a coach and how I think the game should be played. But there are situations that come up that I'm going to handle differently. There already have been. You have to admit you're wrong sometimes. I self-evaluate all the time, and I know I've made some mistakes, some big mistakes, and those are what I'm trying to correct, but also keep my convictions as a coach and person."

Guess the coach.

- chimpira


My guess it's Disco. But I remember MT saying some similar things. I remember an interview with MT where he said he realized he needed to not be such a "d1ck"...paraphrasing of course.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:23 PM ET
My guess it's Disco. But I remember MT saying some similar things. I remember an interview with MT where he said he realized he needed to not be such a "d1ck"...paraphrasing of course.

- madmike71


Nope. Disco would never compare himself to a raging bull as in here: "Everybody just thinks I'm this raging bull and it's my way or the highway"
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 1 @ 1:26 PM ET
Well then by all means, please get on the phone to your people in the organization and get the ball rolling on all these changes.

Til then, Ill be a hopeful fan rooting for my team to win and play with some heart. Because at the end of the day we can all piss and moan to each other all we want, but we don't effect the game one single bit.

- thickman1178


Nope, my office chair is too comfy so I will put that phone call off until January, because you know its only December.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 1 @ 1:28 PM ET
Nope. Disco would never compare himself to a raging bull as in here: "Everybody just thinks I'm this raging bull and it's my way or the highway"
- chimpira


Yeah, your right about that. I didn't read it all that closely
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:29 PM ET
Yeah, your right about that. I didn't read it all that closely
- madmike71


Ok, Ok. It's from today's article: http://www.nhl.com/ice/ne...790392&navid=nhl:topheads
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Dec 1 @ 1:35 PM ET
Right on. Still impressive numbers for a kid playing rep. Encourage his parents to let him try out for AAA when he hits Pee-Wee, playing with and against like talented kids and the quality of AAA coaching is worth it's weight in gold. If money is an issue, maybe old uncle DCOMS will have to sponser him. That's great you have a good little hockey player in the family, nothing beats youth hockey.
- Willaged

Yeah there's a whole bunch of obstacles to that. This is a AA town and the closest AAA teams are Windsor(45 minutes), London(hour), K+W (2 hours.). His father(my brother) is a deadbeat addict. His mother is a single parent. Etc etc. But if he's dedeicated and still as big and talented when he gets to peewee which is 5 years away still then we will figure it out. His skating needs improvement but he has the hands and the brain that sees how plays are going to unfold before they do, which is all stuff you can't teach, you're born with it or you aren't. The same stuff guys like Pouliot have and guys like Bortuzzo don't.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Dec 1 @ 1:37 PM ET
Jesse Marshall ‏@jmarshfof 22m22 minutes ago
I think we can unequivocally say at this point that Plotnikov drives puck possession. More specifically, drives shot attempts.

Jesse Marshall ‏@jmarshfof 23m23 minutes ago
When you separate Plotnikov from his teammates, their shot attempt production goes right in the toilet. Guy is a solid possession player.


Would Plotnikov and Sprong be crazy as Sid's linemates?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Better than Kuni and Duper at his point.
jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Dec 1 @ 1:37 PM ET
Ok, Ok. It's from today's article: http://www.nhl.com/ice/ne...790392&navid=nhl:topheads
- chimpira



This game sucks! I didn't even get the chance to respond and you're giving the answers away. You sir are the Pittsburgh Penguins of trivia contests.
jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Dec 1 @ 1:38 PM ET
Better than Kuni and Duper at his point.
- Dcoms


What makes Plotnikov/Sprong better than Kunitz/Dupuis at this point? I get that everyone wants the shiny new toy but I'm looking for tangible facts that Plotnikov/Sprong would be better than Kunitz/Dupuis.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
This game sucks! I didn't even get the chance to respond and you're giving the answers away. You sir are the Pittsburgh Penguins of trivia contests.
- jaydogg1974


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Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Dec 1 @ 1:42 PM ET
Why would you take a player like Simon (who I am a fan of) and immediately throw him on the top line when he's never played an NHL game in his life?
- Reverend Killtaker

Because he has "it." Why do people insist on making young guys play bottom 6 roles at first? If he's top 6 material then that is where he should play. He's a quick skater and he's got a killer shot. Would be a good pk'er too. Our own Matts Zucharello
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:43 PM ET
Name the author:

"The top three worst things I've seen in hockey? The invention of the trap. The invention of the morning skate. And the invention of the extremely ugly uniform."
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Dec 1 @ 1:45 PM ET
Could just be a case of being an older/more developed prospect?

Would you say he has leapfrogged Sundqvist as a prospect?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

No, they don't share the same destiny. Sundquist is a bottom 6, 2 way, guy with size, good enough hands and a mean streak. Simon is a top 6 winger who is small but very fast and even more skilled.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:46 PM ET
Name the author, question 2:

"I don’t want to get into a 'he said, she said' with the refs…I’m the he."

This is not from the same author as the first one.
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