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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 3:58 AM ET
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Please know that I will personally be handling your case, and will be in contact with you on a regular basis, until this issue is resolved to your satisfaction.

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- chimpira


Well I do hope you realise good reputations are very hard to get and very easy to lose??

By word of mouth you will find success or failure.

I hear your company sucks!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 4:10 AM ET
So my game, your rules? Got it. Ok, what about the second one?
- chimpira


Aaaaand not respecting your clients............noted!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 4:16 AM ET
After 23 games? No. After 82 - sure.
- chimpira


Wtf? You're a hard man to please chimp man!

I'm calling you out on your response!! Your Chitzu thinks your full of fur balls!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 4:26 AM ET
They're saving up for after our West Coast trip. I was a little surprised that no Oiler fans showed up with "You guys suck, 'cause even the Maple Loafs blanked us"!
- chimpira


They sent their 'boy' in, "masturbator" to troll. Wasn't too effective, must be part of his training coming in after Smelly, Ronny & Prismo softened us up??
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 4:53 AM ET
They miss Saad badly. Panarin has been a great find though. They don't have much defensive depth either. Still trust their organization's process more than any. They've earned that right.
- jfkst1


Does the below look familiar it's from the Hawks board?? I'll let you fill the blanks in with either Hawks OR Pens names - same same but different!

BUT

1. (.............) playing with 3rd and 4th line grinders...i am sorry that has to end and end soon...

2. (............) has not gotten a nite off since coming back...that aint going to work either...tells you what they think of #?

3. taking to many damn penalties...but PK has been solid the last 3-4 games

4. not going anywhere with 1 line scoring and (...........) on the 3rd line (WTF)
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Dec 2 @ 6:26 AM ET
Call me crazy but i think the first line and the fourth line needs to switch wingers. Sid gets the the younger legs and 9 and 14 while overpaid for the role, are very capable 4th liners.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 6:32 AM ET
Looking at some highlights from other games, those of you who say Flower is keeping this team above water, can say the exact same thing off other more fancied teams.

There are highlight reel saves left right & centre most nights on a lot of other teams as well as Flowers.

So if the other teams D are better than ours but their goalies are killing it with great saves then what does that say about the state of the game & the chances of most winning teams?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 7:11 AM ET
"Pens crush the Sharks in SJ"

That's the headline from TSN!

Sound like a team in trouble?

Let's do an opposites day Wednesday & only comment with positive comments for our Pens!

Who is up for that challenge??
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Dec 2 @ 7:26 AM ET
My impressions.

Dumo is the real deal. Strong on the puck with head up anticipating being hit and turning with the puck away from the hit to make a smart play. Over 20 min of ice time and looking smarter each game. What a pick up for us.

That fourth like is also getting better and better. Plots is substantially better and his big frame can really delver a check. He will get a goal soon, bank on it.

The Malkin line is the real deal as well, Perron adding some bulk is showing with him winning more puck battles along the wall and his hits allow Malkin to scoop up pucks and get them to the net.

Is that Bennett? 'Too soft' Bennett crunching people? WTF?

Sid needs to shoot more, period. His line also needs a legit banger so he can find loose pucks and do some magic. I suggest Sundqvist for the banger. Adding Sprong for speed and shooting on his line is an experiment worthy of trying as well.

Great team effort. Let's not miimize MAF either. He was nothing short of fantastic as he turned away, calmly, many early shots. He is more upright and positionally strong as the year goes on and that bodes well for the Pens!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 7:38 AM ET
My impressions.

Dumo is the real deal. Strong on the puck with head up anticipating being hit and turning with the puck away from the hit to make a smart play. Over 20 min of ice time and looking smarter each game. What a pick up for us.

That fourth like is also getting better and better. Plots is substantially better and his big frame can really delver a check. He will get a goal soon, bank on it.

The Malkin line is the real deal as well, Perron adding some bulk is showing with him winning more puck battles along the wall and his hits allow Malkin to scoop up pucks and get them to the net.

Is that Bennett? 'Too soft' Bennett crunching people? WTF?

Sid needs to shoot more, period. His line also needs a legit banger so he can find loose pucks and do some magic. I suggest Sundqvist for the banger. Adding Sprong for speed and shooting on his line is an experiment worthy of trying as well.

Great team effort. Let's not miimize MAF either. He was nothing short of fantastic as he turned away, calmly, many early shots. He is more upright and positionally strong as the year goes on and that bodes well for the Pens!

- powerhouse


Wow!

Great positivity & superb effort to set the bar high!

That's an A+ from moi!

You get 4 x thumbs up!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 2 @ 7:48 AM ET
My impressions.

Dumo is the real deal. Strong on the puck with head up anticipating being hit and turning with the puck away from the hit to make a smart play. Over 20 min of ice time and looking smarter each game. What a pick up for us.

That fourth like is also getting better and better. Plots is substantially better and his big frame can really delver a check. He will get a goal soon, bank on it.

The Malkin line is the real deal as well, Perron adding some bulk is showing with him winning more puck battles along the wall and his hits allow Malkin to scoop up pucks and get them to the net.

Is that Bennett? 'Too soft' Bennett crunching people? WTF?

Sid needs to shoot more, period. His line also needs a legit banger so he can find loose pucks and do some magic. I suggest Sundqvist for the banger. Adding Sprong for speed and shooting on his line is an experiment worthy of trying as well.

Great team effort. Let's not miimize MAF either. He was nothing short of fantastic as he turned away, calmly, many early shots. He is more upright and positionally strong as the year goes on and that bodes well for the Pens!

- powerhouse


I think Sid needs to keep doing what he is doing now. Scoring is coming & the team is going ok. Let opposition teams gamble if they don't want to mark up against him, & if they've got the KCD line running Kuni & Duper can't (frank) any other line up!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 2 @ 7:48 AM ET
I finally gave out in the third and fell asleep because I am an old man at the age of 22. But from what I saw, well played game! There was a lot of back and forth so its not like we man handled San Jose like the score suggests, but we had three lines that were playing good hockey and Flower kept the puck out of the net. I'm not going to complain about us leaning on Fleury if we score goals and look good in the process. It's when we win after playing bad hockey and barely scoring that I get worried that Flower is the only thing keeping this team going.

Is Malkin the best player in the NHL right now? Don't look now, but brolo has climbed into 8th place in scoring and 7th place in goal scoring after a slow start. I think Kane, Benn, and Seguin have too big of cushion, but I wouldn't be surprised if Geno made a serious push for the scoring title if he keeps averaging 2 points per game like this. The Rocket is certainly not out of reach.

KCD I don't even know what to say. Everyone and their mother knew it wasn't going to work, but for them to be that invisible... Just disappointing... I don't know what else to do there. Crosby apparently doesn't want to play with Hornqvist anymore, Perron-Malkin-Kessel is too good to separate, Bennett didn't look particularly good with Crosby due to foot speed. The only thing left to do is try Sprong. Say what you will about not rushing him, but he's quickly becoming our only option.

Welp... Unfortunately every time we play a good game we regress the very next one so I'm expecting another game where only Malkin shows up. Please, please, please prove me wrong.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 2 @ 7:51 AM ET
Call me crazy but i think the first line and the fourth line needs to switch wingers. Sid gets the the younger legs and 9 and 14 while overpaid for the role, are very capable 4th liners.
- Grinder47

I don't think Plotnikov can hang with Sid skating wise. Even with that, he's more deserving of top line minutes than Kunitz and Dupuis.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 2 @ 7:54 AM ET
Looking at some highlights from other games, those of you who say Flower is keeping this team above water, can say the exact same thing off other more fancied teams.

There are highlight reel saves left right & centre most nights on a lot of other teams as well as Flowers.

So if the other teams D are better than ours but their goalies are killing it with great saves then what does that say about the state of the game & the chances of most winning teams?

- Aussiepenguin

Welp... They are highlights for a reason...

It's not so much that Fleury is in god mode and is making highlight reel after highlight reel. It's more so that he's been stoic in the crease and stone walling solid chances, and most importantly, controlling rebounds very well and denying second chances. He's doing the little things right and its all adding up. Basically the complete opposite of two or three years ago.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Dec 2 @ 8:19 AM ET
No work, raining to hard to hunt, I almost want to suggest a Malkin trade just to have something to do.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Dec 2 @ 8:23 AM ET
Went to bed after the second, because I live on real time, not anything else. I was so glad that goal didn't count for SJ, if so, we would have been in trouble. Held on and the end of the period happened.

The fourth line is playing at a high level. I like that combo. I female doged about the signing of 50-year old Cullen, but he is doing well with Fehr and Plot. They work well together and should at some point get rewarded for their hard work.

Dumo has eclipsed my notions of him. He has turned into a pretty good Dman.

This was a very good win in a tough place to play. Had to believe we hadn't won there since 1997 with some of the teams we have had.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Dec 2 @ 8:25 AM ET
I don't think Plotnikov can hang with Sid skating wise. Even with that, he's more deserving of top line minutes than Kunitz and Dupuis.
- Victoro311

I think Crosby has to get back to being the excellent cycling player he used to be, he never holds onto the puck long enough to start a cycle anymore. Its always enter the zone make the first pass that looks plausible and hopefully score or retrieve the puck. With wingers like Ploty and Fehr Sid could work the cycle and find those sneaky passes like he used to. Were suppose to have a team where everyone can play offensively yet we still limit our top six options to players who have top six experience. One thing I liked about DB is he would try anything at least once.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 2 @ 8:30 AM ET
Went to bed after the second, because I live on real time, not anything else. I was so glad that goal didn't count for SJ, if so, we would have been in trouble. Held on and the end of the period happened.

The fourth line is playing at a high level. I like that combo. I female doged about the signing of 50-year old Cullen, but he is doing well with Fehr and Plot. They work well together and should at some point get rewarded for their hard work.

Dumo has eclipsed my notions of him. He has turned into a pretty good Dman.

This was a very good win in a tough place to play. Had to believe we hadn't won there since 1997 with some of the teams we have had.

- Oneonta Penguin

This was the most positive post you've ever written. Aussie I think you started something.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 2 @ 8:31 AM ET
Went to bed after the second, because I live on real time, not anything else. I was so glad that goal didn't count for SJ, if so, we would have been in trouble. Held on and the end of the period happened.

The fourth line is playing at a high level. I like that combo. I female doged about the signing of 50-year old Cullen, but he is doing well with Fehr and Plot. They work well together and should at some point get rewarded for their hard work.

Dumo has eclipsed my notions of him. He has turned into a pretty good Dman.

This was a very good win in a tough place to play. Had to believe we hadn't won there since 1997 with some of the teams we have had.

- Oneonta Penguin


This team needs a 3 or 4 Dman and to figure out how to get Sid going and they'll be a solid contender. I don't want Duper to be hurt, but I can't stand watching him on the top line anymore. It's been obvious for weeks he doesn't have the legs to play top 6 any longer.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Dec 2 @ 8:37 AM ET
This was the most positive post you've ever written. Aussie I think you started something.
- Victoro311


I only write positive stuff when its warranted. There hasn't been much positive lately to be honest. The record says we are fine ... the optics say we aren't. I don't like the way this team plays most nights, even in victory. I liked last night from what I watched. You have some players shining (Malkin, Fleury); some gaining confidence (Plot, Perron), some overachieving (Dumo), a fourth line that is playing good hockey ... but some struggling (Crosby, Letang, Horny, Dupes, Kunitz ...). We are lucky to have this record based on this.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Dec 2 @ 8:40 AM ET
Went to bed after the second, because I live on real time, not anything else. I was so glad that goal didn't count for SJ, if so, we would have been in trouble. Held on and the end of the period happened.

The fourth line is playing at a high level. I like that combo. I female doged about the signing of 50-year old Cullen, but he is doing well with Fehr and Plot. They work well together and should at some point get rewarded for their hard work.

Dumo has eclipsed my notions of him. He has turned into a pretty good Dman.

This was a very good win in a tough place to play. Had to believe we hadn't won there since 1997 with some of the teams we have had.

- Oneonta Penguin


Best team effort of the year I would say.

I liked the way Sid played last night...and the way he has played in recent games...still something missing.

Not sure what the answer is with him...but figure since they won 5-1...MJ is probably going to leave things the way they are with lines for now.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 2 @ 9:09 AM ET
I only write positive stuff when its warranted. There hasn't been much positive lately to be honest. The record says we are fine ... the optics say we aren't. I don't like the way this team plays most nights, even in victory. I liked last night from what I watched. You have some players shining (Malkin, Fleury); some gaining confidence (Plot, Perron), some overachieving (Dumo), a fourth line that is playing good hockey ... but some struggling (Crosby, Letang, Horny, Dupes, Kunitz ...). We are lucky to have this record based on this.
- Oneonta Penguin

I agree with everything you're saying. Just felt like poking some fun
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:16 AM ET
I agree with everything you're saying. Just felt like poking some fun
- Victoro311



Sort of like me with you and ND ... sorry for your loss.

Have a good one bub.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:17 AM ET
Good game.

4th line looked great.

PH looked better on the 3rd.

Dupes and Kuni looked worse playing on the 1st.

MAF played very well once again.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 2 @ 9:18 AM ET
Best team effort of the year I would say.

I liked the way Sid played last night...and the way he has played in recent games...still something missing.

Not sure what the answer is with him...but figure since they won 5-1...MJ is probably going to leave things the way they are with lines for now.

- icedog97

I'm super hesitant to break up Perron-Malkin-Kessel, but for Crosby's sake I think we have to put Perron with him and reunite the Perron-Crosby-Hornqvist line. With how talented Malkin and Kessel are how on fire Geno is right now, they could probably still be an effective line with a LW passenger.

It just sucks because lines 2,3, and 4 are playing some high level hockey during the recent stretch but Crosby's line being so ineffective is going to force a massive shake up unless we have the cojones to try Sprong at 1LW. If Sprong can stick at 1LW then there's no real shake up needed and everyone stays where they're thriving.

Sprong-Crosby-Hornqvist
Perron-Malkin-Kessel
Kunitz-Bonino-Bennett
Plotnikov-Cullen-Fehr

Without Sprong a shake up is going to look like this:

Perron-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Kessel
Dupuis-Bonino-Bennett
Plotnikov-Cullen-Fehr

I like option one a hell of a lot more than option two. Keeps the second line in tact, puts a net front guy with Bonino and Bennett which is very important. The Bonino-Bennett unit has been effective when Kunitz, Plotnikov, and Hornqvist have been on it. Not so much when Dupuis or Perron have played the left.
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