I can't comment anymore, Desjardins needs to go. I know some of you will question my logic, but trust me, the teams lack of systems slash discipline is his doing.
- LeftCoaster

What about the slow, soft veterns and a bunch of inexperienced kids?

I see the game differently, their systems play, changes, lack of accountability is bothering me. It stems directly from coaching.
- LeftCoaster

Maybe. Got to say though, this team is overachieving and last year's team did too IMO. So maybe he's doing something right.

What about the slow, soft veterns and a bunch of inexperienced kids?
- CanuckDon

The vets need to go. Plain and simple. 38 mil in cap space and draft picks

Maybe. Got to say though, this team is overachieving and last year's team did too IMO. So maybe he's doing something right.
- neem55

They're not overachieving, they have a talented group of forwards and their goaltending is solid, defence is suspect, I'll give you that.

Their systems play is terrible, some of the coaching decisions are (frank)in BS - I'll explain what I mean when I'm not on my phone.

I'm pissed off because the team is better than what they're showing, that annoys me to no end.

They're not overachieving, they have a talented group of forwards and their goaltending is solid, defence is suspect, I'll give you that.

Their systems play is terrible, some of the coaching decisions are (frank)in BS - I'll explain what I mean when I'm not on my phone.

I'm pissed off because the team is better than what they're showing, that annoys me to no end.
- LeftCoaster

I think they are where they should be. You're right, they are talented with solid players but they aren't exceptional. They don't have a second line (or one that can perform like one on a consistent basis), they don't have enough top 4 defenders to fill an NHL top 4. They won games early on and were overachieving, and now they are slumping, placing them exactly where most predicted them last year and frankly where a lot saw them heading into the season. Middle of the pack

I think they are where they should be. You're right, they are talented with solid players but they aren't exceptional. They don't have a second line (or one that can perform like one on a consistent basis), they don't have enough top 4 defenders to fill an NHL top 4. They won games early on and were overachieving, and now they are slumping, placing them exactly where most predicted them last year and frankly where a lot saw them heading into the season. Middle of the pack
- WhiteLie

The core is slow. The only real chance in ot was Hansen McCann.

The core is slow. The only real chance in ot was Hansen McCann.
- VANTEL

Slow but too talented to tank. The key will be the consistency of Horvat, JV, McCann to determine if the team starts to overachieve or not IMO. We haven't seen Horvat at his best yet and JV has flashes of being an impact player. Only McCann has produced on a fairly consistent basis in his limited role

The core is slow. The only real chance in ot was Hansen McCann.
- VANTEL

With regards to this game, I was putting all my hopes in Markstrom getting the game to a shootout...

With regards to this game, I was putting all my hopes in Markstrom getting the game to a shootout...
- WhiteLie

Habs were getting a lot of odd man breaks because we are slow. I am not complaining , it is just a fact. Not quick enough to get back.m

With regards to this game, I was putting all my hopes in Markstrom getting the game to a shootout...
- WhiteLie

Willie was too, putting two defenders out there....

Habs were getting a lot of odd man breaks because we are slow. I am not complaining , it is just a fact. Not quick enough to get back.m
- VANTEL

It's not about being slow, it's about being defensively responsible. It's about good lines, smart plays and being in a position to defend.

The minute it becomes all about offence you have the Oilers, this team is more talented than that, it's coaching. Teams like Jersey and Arizona are less talented but play more within a "system".

When your team allows four short-handed goals in six games it's accountability and coaching. People need to sit, send a message, change the way you execute - stop doing the same things that are unsuccessful.

If there's a time to try heroin?

It's not about being slow, it's about being defensively responsible. It's about good lines, smart plays and being in a position to defend.

The minute it becomes all about offence you have the Oilers, this team is more talented than that, it's coaching. Teams like Jersey and Arizona are less talented but play more within a "system".

When your team allows four short-handed goals in six games it's accountability and coaching. People need to sit, send a message, change the way you execute - stop doing the same things that are unsuccessful.
- LeftCoaster

We are missing 4 starters.

It's not about being slow, it's about being defensively responsible. It's about good lines, smart plays and being in a position to defend.

The minute it becomes all about offence you have the Oilers, this team is more talented than that, it's coaching. Teams like Jersey and Arizona are less talented but play more within a "system".

When your team allows four short-handed goals in six games it's accountability and coaching. People need to sit, send a message, change the way you execute - stop doing the same things that are unsuccessful.
- LeftCoaster

I agree with some of your points but let's step back and analyze things from a macro view for a second. Coming into this season most of us said they are a bubble team. And what do you know, we are currently a bubble team. We just gained a point against one of the top teams on the road which isn't too shabby.

Of course the blown leads are frustrating as well as our inability to win overtime. But that's a product of inexperience and the wrong personnel to execute at 3-3. With that being said, Willies leash is def. shortening

We are missing 4 starters.
- A_SteamingLombardi

All the more reason to change the "systems" and how you approach the game.

We are missing 4 starters.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yes, this as well. When you are missing 3 of your most defensively sound starters a team like MTL should win

It's not about being slow, it's about being defensively responsible. It's about good lines, smart plays and being in a position to defend.

The minute it becomes all about offence you have the Oilers, this team is more talented than that, it's coaching. Teams like Jersey and Arizona are less talented but play more within a "system".

When your team allows four short-handed goals in six games it's accountability and coaching. People need to sit, send a message, change the way you execute - stop doing the same things that are unsuccessful.
- LeftCoaster

Sorry I disagree. The OTs all start the same Sedins get the puck and a fair scoring chance and then it turns into a two on one the other way. Then they send the Vrbata pair out and more two on ones. When WD sent out two D it shows they were in survive mode. The OT results speak for itself. Too many odd man chances by faster teams

Sorry I disagree. The OTs all start the same Sedins get the puck and a fair scoring chance and then it turns into a two on one the other way. Then they send the Vrbata pair out and more two on ones. When WD sent out two D it shows they were in survive mode. The OT results speak for itself. Too many odd man chances by faster teams
- VANTEL

It's difficult for me to articulate what I know, what I've been taught thru written words, I'll stick with my opinion but respect yours.

I think they are where they should be. You're right, they are talented with solid players but they aren't exceptional. They don't have a second line (or one that can perform like one on a consistent basis), they don't have enough top 4 defenders to fill an NHL top 4. They won games early on and were overachieving, and now they are slumping, placing them exactly where most predicted them last year and frankly where a lot saw them heading into the season. Middle of the pack
- WhiteLie

Very well said, personally I've pegged this team to place from 20-25 place. but the early success has people thinking they are a top ten team. Lefty says to temper expectations on Hunter and then when a mediocre team loses in OT, again.....it's blame the rookie/sophomore coach.

My advice is to step back and temper expectations on the team overall.

Very well said, personally I've pegged this team to place from 20-25 place. but the early success has people thinking they are a top ten team. Lefty says to temper expectations on Hunter and then when a mediocre team loses in OT, again.....it's blame the rookie/sophomore coach.

My advice is to step back and temper expectations on the team overall.
- Makita

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we all have our own ways to freak out. I save my biggest freak outs for when the balsamic vinegar bottle is empty. I like me some balsamic.

Very well said, personally I've pegged this team to place from 20-25 place. but the early success has people thinking they are a top ten team. Lefty says to temper expectations on Hunter and then when a mediocre team loses in OT, again.....it's blame the rookie/sophomore coach.

My advice is to step back and temper expectations on the team overall.
- Makita

I never blamed the rookie players, ever, I've been critical of the execution of the vets, the Sedins had an embarrassing change tonight, completely their fault.

That has nothing to do with speed or youth, it's about being accountable and being held accountable for a bad change. How many veterans are minus on the PP lately? That's what I'm talking about.

It's difficult for me to articulate what I know, what I've been taught thru written words, I'll stick with my opinion but respect yours.
- LeftCoaster

Watch the start next time. Sedins with a decent perimeter shot and it will lead into an odd man rush the other way.

4 short handed goals recently again getting caught.

Players get old . Yes Canucks were missing 4 starters Burrows first game out, Sutter two games Prust 4 th liner, Sbisa ( OK he is an all star but the rest have been just recent) . What's the record in the last 10 games?

I am not complaining . I am just saying age and speed are beginning to show

Watch the start next time. Sedins with a decent perimeter shot and it will lead into an odd man rush the other way.

4 short handed goals recently again getting caught.

Players get old . Yes Canucks were missing 4 starters Burrows first game out, Sutter two games Prust 4 th liner, Sbisa ( OK he is an all star but the rest have been just recent) .

I am not complaining . I am just saying age and speed are beginning to show
- VANTEL

That, to me, is about putting the puck in a better position, also, the defense need to understand the play can go the other way quickly. Better awareness.

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we all have our own ways to freak out. I save my biggest freak outs for when the balsamic vinegar bottle is empty. I like me some balsamic.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Then I suggest you head on down to Olive The Senses and refill on multiple flavours of balsamic vinegar...coconut, grapefruit, white balsamic, espresso dark balsamic...mmm.

Vrbata is -11, Weber is -7 and even Horvat is -7....this is not bad luck! I'd rather they scratch some vets and let the kids play as oppose to keeping these guys in the lineup for a few games.

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