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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 16 @ 12:05 PM ET
NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports 1m1 minute ago
Just talked with Canadian junior hockey head scout Mark Jankowski who has made his call to #Canucks gm Jim Benning.

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports 1m1 minute ago
Jankowski : "It's early and wait and see but Jim knows we want both Virtanen and McCann". #Canucks
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
Be nice to see Hutton, Horvat, Gaunce, Shinkaruk, McCann and Virtanen all in the lineup after the TDL.
- LeftCoaster


Wouldn't mind more of the kids on the roster, this next little while should be interesting. The team is struggling after a good start, have to find out if we are seeing the real Canucks now or if this is just a little dip.

Are we really missing Sbisa and Prust? Sutter?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
You bash WD for being inexperienced and making mistakes, but you want Gulutzen to have a larger role? You realize that by seasons end they will have the same experience with WD having more success at literally every level. AHL - WD won, NHL record - WD only needs 9 more wins to surpass Gully's total.

Coaches will make mistakes, just like the players will. Its tough to be in a position to put your success and trust in players to provide the outcome you desire. Even having Babcock coaching here would only have a minimal impact on the bottom line, the players play the game and the Canucks' horses are just getting old and the new ones aren't quite ready to be impact players

- WhiteLie


he's just not ready.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 16 @ 12:08 PM ET
Wouldn't mind more of the kids on the roster, this next little while should be interesting. The team is struggling after a good start, have to find out if we are seeing the real Canucks now or if this is just a little dip.

Are we really missing Sbisa and Prust? Sutter?

- hillbillydeluxe


I believe they are missing them, yes!
WhiteLie
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Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Wouldn't mind more of the kids on the roster, this next little while should be interesting. The team is struggling after a good start, have to find out if we are seeing the real Canucks now or if this is just a little dip.

Are we really missing Sbisa and Prust? Sutter?

- hillbillydeluxe


I think they are missing them. Especially because the kids have had to take on a bit more. 15 or so games isnt enough experience to be totally adjusted to NHL speed, so I think that they are a little overwhelmed at times for what they are being asked and it has a ripple effect on the team. I think this is a dip and they can pull out from under it, with the goalies getting a more balanced schedule going forward they can steal a few of these 1 goal outings IMO
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Markstrom starts!!!!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 16 @ 12:12 PM ET
Shinkaruk in tonight
- LeftCoaster

Confirmed?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 16 @ 12:13 PM ET
Be nice to see Hutton, Horvat, Gaunce, Shinkaruk, McCann and Virtanen all in the lineup after the TDL.
- LeftCoaster

Yes and Edler, Hamhuis, Burrows, Higgins, Vrbata all gone.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:16 PM ET
I think they are missing them. Especially because the kids have had to take on a bit more. 15 or so games isnt enough experience to be totally adjusted to NHL speed, so I think that they are a little overwhelmed at times for what they are being asked and it has a ripple effect on the team. I think this is a dip and they can pull out from under it, with the goalies getting a more balanced schedule going forward they can steal a few of these 1 goal outings IMO
- WhiteLie


I hope it is just a dip.

I want some moves made at tdl, but expect to be disappointed if we are in a playoff position. The experience may be just as valuable to the existing prospects as a better pick at the draft. and don't like the idea of not wanting to do well either.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:17 PM ET
Yes and Edler, Hamhuis, Burrows, Higgins, Vrbata all gone.
- LordHumungous


patience grasshopper.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
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Nov 16 @ 12:19 PM ET
Confirmed?
- LordHumungous


Jason Botchford ‏@botchford 35m35 minutes ago
Shinkaruk to play with cracknell and Dorsett. Gaunce maybe would have made more sense there but is apparently banged up
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:19 PM ET
Confirmed?
- LordHumungous

Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks · 44m44 minutes ago
Shinkaruk plays tonight. #Canucks

Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks · 19m19 minutes ago
"The first NHL bed sheets I had were Canadiens. They were from my grandparents, kind of funny" - Shinkaruk, all smiles #Canucks

WhiteLie
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Nov 16 @ 12:20 PM ET
I hope it is just a dip.

I want some moves made at tdl, but expect to be disappointed if we are in a playoff position. The experience may be just as valuable to the existing prospects as a better pick at the draft. and don't like the idea of not wanting to do well either.

- hillbillydeluxe


I want playoff hockey as well, I think that experience (and ultimately the disappointment of losing there) will drive that next generation of players being filtered in. I do have some faith/feeling that JB wont be shy this year about moving players at the TDL. More of hockey trades, or at least acquiring potential UFA's for RFA's that look negligible on paper in terms of performance in an effort to get younger. I dont see a whole lot of selling for draft picks unless the team is on the outside at that point
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:29 PM ET
I want playoff hockey as well, I think that experience (and ultimately the disappointment of losing there) will drive that next generation of players being filtered in. I do have some faith/feeling that JB wont be shy this year about moving players at the TDL. More of hockey trades, or at least acquiring potential UFA's for RFA's that look negligible on paper in terms of performance in an effort to get younger. I dont see a whole lot of selling for draft picks unless the team is on the outside at that point
- WhiteLie


Can't wait for the tdl just to see what happens. either way, i have no idea who JB would prefer to move or who he likes. I'd hope he'd look to moving some of the older guys, but even if they miss the playoffs this season, they won't want to miss it twice in a row... so wondering where JB sees the balance being?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:33 PM ET

Everyone see this?


NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 29m29 minutes ago
Jankowski : "It's early and wait and see but Jim knows we want both Virtanen and McCann". #Canucks


NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 29m29 minutes ago
Jankowski made the courtesy call to #Canucks for Jake Virtanen and Jared McCann.


NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 29m29 minutes ago
Just talked with Canadian junior hockey head scout Mark Jankowski who has made his call to #Canucks gm Jim Benning.

WhiteLie
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Nov 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
Can't wait for the tdl just to see what happens. either way, i have no idea who JB would prefer to move or who he likes. I'd hope he'd look to moving some of the older guys, but even if they miss the playoffs this season, they won't want to miss it twice in a row... so wondering where JB sees the balance being?
- hillbillydeluxe


Yeah I actually am looking forward to it and next offseason too...
I think if they hold a playoff position, they wont be dealing. If they are on the outside but in the hunt I can see him taking the opportunity to sell things off. Its just harder to have the guys that are here for next season feel good about being in a playoff spot only to sell off parts for picks and watch the team fall. If its an uphill climb, then the players will understand the situation IMO
thundachunk
Location: Help
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Nov 16 @ 12:48 PM ET
he's just not ready.

- hillbillydeluxe

Well played sir.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 12:52 PM ET
Well played sir.
- thundachunk


I thought Harper wasn't ready... (back to regularly scheduled programming)
thundachunk
Location: Help
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Nov 16 @ 12:52 PM ET
Everyone see this?


NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 29m29 minutes ago
Jankowski : "It's early and wait and see but Jim knows we want both Virtanen and McCann". #Canucks


NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 29m29 minutes ago
Jankowski made the courtesy call to #Canucks for Jake Virtanen and Jared McCann.


NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 29m29 minutes ago
Just talked with Canadian junior hockey head scout Mark Jankowski who has made his call to #Canucks gm Jim Benning.

- hillbillydeluxe
I doubt JB will do it. " hey Jake\ Jared You guys want to be in the WJHC" "Hell no we want toplay in the NHL."
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 1:02 PM ET
I doubt JB will do it. " hey Jake\ Jared You guys want to be in the WJHC" "Hell no we want toplay in the NHL."
- thundachunk


It is also about whether the Canucks are a better team with or without them in the lineup. I can see JV going before McCann. Sutter has to be back and Henrik, Bo, and Cracknell all healthy. Easier for JV to go at wing.

JV is one of the few forwards to bring the hits and a little grit. who knows?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
You seem on edge this morning, everything ok?
- LeftCoaster

5 more sleeps until we have one week off!!
A little excitable, heading to Victoria for 3 nights.
There might be a bit of an announcement Saturday afternoon.
WhiteLie
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Nov 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
It is also about whether the Canucks are a better team with or without them in the lineup. I can see JV going before McCann. Sutter has to be back and Henrik, Bo, and Cracknell all healthy. Easier for JV to go at wing.

JV is one of the few forwards to bring the hits and a little grit. who knows?

- hillbillydeluxe


I was thinking the same, based on play and roster JV is the more expendable of the two. But he already played and won there, so there isn't huge motivation/benefit for him to go. At the end of the day I cant see either going
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
I was thinking the same, based on play and roster JV is the more expendable of the two. But he already played and won there, so there isn't huge motivation/benefit for him to go. At the end of the day I cant see either going
- WhiteLie


Shows the lack of depth and importance of these players.

Looking forward to seeing Shinkaruk tonight.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Shows the lack of depth and importance of these players.

Looking forward to seeing Shinkaruk tonight.

- hillbillydeluxe

Temper expectations on Shinkaruk IMO, everyone, he's playing with Dorsett and Cracknell and he'll probably get six or seven minutes of ice-time.
WhiteLie
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Nov 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
Temper expectations on Shinkaruk IMO, everyone, he's playing with Dorsett and Cracknell and he'll probably get six or seven minutes of ice-time.
- LeftCoaster


I can see WD liking his tenacity though, he's quick and an aggressive player despite not being a physical guy. Gaunce was able to gain an increased role in a short period of time, I think the way Shink has been performing it wouldnt be out of the question to see him get a couple extra earned shifts out there
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