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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:39 AM ET
i agree. flyers will eat some money on as well I bet to get a better deal.
- rinaldo


Flyers have about 670K in cap space, and Schenn is on an expiring contract. How much money can they eat, to sweeten the deal?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:39 AM ET
i agree. flyers will eat some money on as well I bet to get a better deal.
- rinaldo

Why not? He'll be off the books after this year anyway. Between the prorated cap hit and eaten salary, he could be an easy fit on a team with little room to add.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:41 AM ET
I do think Laughton could play LW with Giroux. He has a nice, hard, shot and they look dangerous on the PK.
- Feanor


I'd love to see that.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:41 AM ET
Who is Jake Bean?
- MJL


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 13 @ 11:44 AM ET

- Tomahawk

BEANS
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
“I just think Ron Hextall was left a mess. He really was. He inherited a situation that had a lot of problems. A lot of bad contracts. The smartest thing they can do is just battle their way through it.
- Feanor


rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
Flyers have about 670K in cap space, and Schenn is on an expiring contract. How much money can they eat, to sweeten the deal?
- MJL

as much as the cap allows no? he is already counting against the cap so eating money isn't an issue at all. assuming it is for picks or prospects only deal.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
The other thing is, if Friedman is right, Hextall has had the Schenns on the block and found no takers. I get Vinny being poison on the trade market, but if he can't get a sniff on either Schenn?
- Jsaquella


Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I can see that bothe schenns were shopped but hexy prob got offers that weren't to his liking.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
Why not? He'll be off the books after this year anyway. Between the prorated cap hit and eaten salary, he could be an easy fit on a team with little room to add.
- BulliesPhan87


In terms of eating salary, in the big picture, we're talking about in the ball park of about 300K eaten. I don't see that adding up to much better deal.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:45 AM ET
BEANS
- hereticpride


Knowing hockey players, his nickname is probably Beaner... kind of racist.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
In terms of eating salary, in the big picture, we're talking about in the ball park of about 300K eaten. I don't see that adding up to much better deal.
- MJL

how od you figure only 300k? they could eat as much as the cap allows I believe.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:48 AM ET
Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I can see that bothe schenns were shopped but hexy prob got offers that weren't to his liking.
- Hextall271


Or was asked to eat money. Not a big deal in and of itself, but you can only have 3 deals where you eat money at one time. Might need to eat money on another trade, why waste it on a Schenn deal, unless you're getting a good return.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
how od you figure only 300k? they could eat as much as the cap allows I believe.
- rinaldo


It's a ballpark figure. It also depends on when he is traded, that number is for when I expect Schenn traded, which is around the deadline.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 13 @ 11:50 AM ET
Sanity
- PhillySportsGuy

this is the Devil's work.....I'd rather stick to the irrational overreaction, Hakstol is in over his head, we need to have patience but lets trade and fire everybody, schtick
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:52 AM ET
this is the Devil's work.....I'd rather stick to the irrational overreaction, Hakstol is in over his head, we need to have patience but lets trade and fire everybody, schtick
- KINGKENZO


We need a shakeup!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
this is the Devil's work.....I'd rather stick to the irrational overreaction, Hakstol is in over his head, we need to have patience but lets trade and fire everybody, schtick
- KINGKENZO

Maybe if we get upset, and I mean really upset, it'll somehow make everything better. It hasn't been tried yet, so why not?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
I don't see them trading Giroux under any circumstances in the near future.
- BiggE


I will know that this franchise is truly lost, when the one player who can play on every single team in the league and excel is the one we trade

I tried to think about what this team would look like without him, and I laughed
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:58 AM ET
I will know that this franchise is truly lost, when the one player who can play on every single team in the league and excel is the one we trade

I tried to think about what this team would look like without him, and I laughed

- AllInForFlyers

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
I will know that this franchise is truly lost, when the one player who can play on every single team in the league and excel is the one we trade

I tried to think about what this team would look like without him, and I laughed

- AllInForFlyers


Top scorer, top faceoff guy (by a mile), top minute getter among forwards, near the top in CF%... let's trade him!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:02 PM ET
I will know that this franchise is truly lost, when the one player who can play on every single team in the league and excel is the one we trade

I tried to think about what this team would look like without him, and I laughed

- AllInForFlyers


Obviously if you're going to trade Giroux, it would have to be for a huge return. How does this team look now, with him on it? If you could theoretically trade him and set the team up for the future, which would be hard to do, you would have to consider that. I don't think a franchise making the type of deal that I would envision it would take, to be willing to move Giroux, would be truly lost in making that deal.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
Top scorer, top faceoff guy (by a mile), top minute getter among forwards, near the top in CF%... let's trade him!
- Feanor



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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Top scorer, top faceoff guy (by a mile), top minute getter among forwards, near the top in CF%... let's trade him!
- Feanor


I know people are just talking, and no one is truly advocating it, but it's crazy to think about, to me
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
I know people are just talking, and no one is truly advocating it, but it's crazy to think about, to me
- AllInForFlyers


You're right, it is crazy to think about.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
In terms of bad contracts, and what Hextall was left with, there is Lecavalier, and the issue of MacDonald. Umberger was acquired by Hextall. Right now, those are the only 3 bad contracts the Flyers have. In my opinion, Umberger and Lecavalier are gone after next season. Umberger's deal expires, and Lecavalier will retire, if not sooner. That leaves MacDonald to deal with moving forward.

The Flyers issues, far more than cap and bad contracts, is player mix, and the gap between the current forward corp, and the developing defenseman. Those are far bigger issues than contracts and the cap.

- MJL


well he was also left with Hartnell and Pronger (obviously Pronger was an unfortunate contract issue due to injury). So yes, Hextall brought in Umberger but Hartnell was on Holmgren.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:10 PM ET
well he was also left with Hartnell and Pronger (obviously Pronger was an unfortunate contract issue due to injury). So yes, Hextall brought in Umberger but Hartnell was on Holmgren.
- nastyflyergirl


Hartnell is still an effective scoring line player.
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