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Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 1:29 AM ET
Ya probably, maybe 3 since its hit to the head.
- SMBDragon


Maybe, just based on his history and than McCann came back.. I say two... but there will be a suspension. That is for sure.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 9 @ 1:30 AM ET
Ya Tootoo is no saint but I don't care about what he says or does, I care about our players.
- LeftCoaster


If that's the case I would applaud a suspension, and as owner of the team I would want Burrows to apologize to his team mates and the fan base publicly. Then he can send a text message to two too, cause that's how NHL'er roll these days.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 1:30 AM ET
No injury, no suspension.

Bank on it.

- 1970vintage


IMO, I think the days of laywers and PVRs change that. 2 Games.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 1:33 AM ET
If that's the case I would applaud a suspension, and as owner of the team I would want Burrows to apologize to his team mates and the fan base publicly. Then he can send a text message to two too, cause that's how NHL'er roll these days.
- 1970vintage



So I can say "Burrows is an ass for saying it" (If he did, I have zero sources, only internet chatter)

But if I say, "Tootoo was drunk when he complained"... that's over the line?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 9 @ 1:33 AM ET
IMO, I think the days of lawyers and PVRs change that. 2 Games.
- Beatle_john


There were those things last year, and the year before, and the year before that. I say no injury, penalty on the play was sufficient, no suspension.

I guess we'll find out who's right and who's you in the next couple days
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 9 @ 1:34 AM ET
So I can say "Burrows is an ass for saying it" (If he did, I have zero sources, only internet chatter)

But if I say, "Tootoo was drunk when he complained"... that's over the line?

- Beatle_john


sounds about right. I didn't say he said it, only that if he did say it, and as you point out, lawyers and pvr (I'm sure the penalty boxes are mic'ed), then he owes some people an apology.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 1:36 AM ET
There were those things last year, and the year before, and the year before that. I say no injury, penalty on the play was sufficient, no suspension.

I guess we'll find out who's right and who's you in the next couple days

- 1970vintage



It will probably be you. The game is hours old and I would think the NHL would have announced an teleconference meeting by now. I don't know why they announce those things anyway.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 1:38 AM ET
sounds about right. I didn't say he said it, only that if he did say it, and as you point out, lawyers and pvr (I'm sure the penalty boxes are mic'ed), then he owes some people an apology.
- 1970vintage


So where is the line? Can players talk about wives or _____ or _____?

This is the NHL, I do not expect anyone to hold anything back.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 9 @ 1:39 AM ET
It will probably be you. The game is hours old and I would think the NHL would have announced an teleconference meeting by now. I don't know why they announce those things anyway.
- Beatle_john


It doesn't really matter if he gets suspended or not does it? I mean, Torres just got what, 40 games? After being suspended 25 games two years ago? How many suspensions were there last year? Hockey is a fast game, you see a guy lined up, and you go for the kill. Every time a player hits another player they are trying to hurt them. To make them wary of playing the puck next time, or panicking and making a bad pass etc. Just my opinion, which doesn't count for poop.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 9 @ 1:42 AM ET
So where is the line? Can players talk about wives or _____ or _____?

This is the NHL, I do not expect anyone to hold anything back.

- Beatle_john


Look, if a player asked PK if he wanted a banana after he scored a goal would that be ok? Anything that you wouldn't say to a cop outside a bar is a pretty safe bet. If you told a cop to (frank) off, he'd probably make sure you spent a night in the drunk tank. If you told a cop to stop crying about his dead brother and drunk mother, he'd probably accidentally slam your face in the car door as he was pushing you in face first, then maybe drop you off 50 miles outside of town with no shoes.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 1:51 AM ET
Look, if a player asked PK if he wanted a banana after he scored a goal would that be ok? Anything that you wouldn't say to a cop outside a bar is a pretty safe bet. If you told a cop to (frank) off, he'd probably make sure you spent a night in the drunk tank. If you told a cop to stop crying about his dead brother and drunk mother, he'd probably accidentally slam your face in the car door as he was pushing you in face first, then maybe drop you off 50 miles outside of town with no shoes.
- 1970vintage


The 'bar' thing does not work for me. The NHL is a 'Bubble'... rules and truth are subjective only when in the bubble.... like Fox News.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 2:15 AM ET
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 9 @ 2:39 AM ET
The 'bar' thing does not work for me. The NHL is a 'Bubble'... rules and truth are subjective only when in the bubble.... like Fox News.
- Beatle_john



I don't believe the NHL operates inside a buble. As Lefty has already mentioned, there are provisions written into the CBA and I bet every player SPC about player conduct. Now that we're on this, I wonder if this would be enough to void a contract...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 9 @ 3:03 AM ET
Thats clearly a body hit... body to body initially.... people have such a hard time separating what happens after principle contact. They see his head whip... it's head contact... they see elbow move after hit... it's an elbow... people see puck not on stick... it's late....

There's no way that is late in real time... JV should be in the box every second hit if thats the case wow... he got creamed and the refs went heavy on the penalty. I think the league will be more than happy with the penalty and happy we dont have a 19 year old vegetable on our team.

All the same things were said about Buflyglien hit last week... but I saw the same things as this hit... principle contact was fine. League took a look... nothing. Head snapped and there was after principle contact. The elbow rose naturally after contact... All the panelists and media were calling suspension like they never watched the replay...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 8:38 AM ET
Maybe they should make a coaches challenge on it.
(frank) tootoo, burrows can say whatever he wants about that pos on the ice. Shows the class of tootoo to whine about it after the game.

- Scooby_Doo

If it is true and Burrows went that far in his comments al I'm saying is that Tootoo probably said crap to Burrows just as bad. Leave it on the ice. For Tootoo to come out publically is pretty chicken shat but obviously he felt emotional enough to do so. I'm not in any way defending Burrows if he did act like a jackass but Tootoo is known through the league to be a tool. So again I wouldn't be shocked to hear Burrows' side of what Tootoo was saying. But really leave the public out of it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 9 @ 9:52 AM ET
Well, it looks like a late 3rd period collapse or an overtime loss is a given, now.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:21 AM ET
Well, it looks like a late 3rd period collapse or an overtime loss is a given, now.
- Marwood

Ya but the bright side is a top ten pick...maybe the Matthews sweepstakes??

It's looking more and more clear that Hammer-Edler-Burrows-Vrbata are gonna be shopped at TDL if not sooner.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 9 @ 10:33 AM ET
Ya but the bright side is a top ten pick...maybe the Matthews sweepstakes??

It's looking more and more clear that Hammer-Edler-Burrows-Vrbata are gonna be shopped at TDL if not sooner.

- LordHumungous


bring it on.

Add Higgins and Prust to the list too
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
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