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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 9:04 AM ET
There are things I like about Hakstol and there are things I really dislike. I'm seeing signs of Berube in him. With this said, I don't view Hakstol as the game changer Hitchcock or Laviolette from the moment they got here.
- SuperSchennBros


SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 28 @ 9:05 AM ET
Thats the third time I saw that you posted this, and I still disagree..

Bellemare isnt the glue that holds this "fragile" team together. He plays hard, he certainly is a boost to the PK, but losing him didnt crush the team. They just played like poop from start to finish. Team defense was horrid. Despite their points, both Schenns played pretty brutal games. Gudas played the rover position tonight, but instead of jumping up to play offense he was just looking to kill someone. Unsuccessfully I may add. Whole game was ugly and frustrating. Glad we got at least a point. If it werent for an unreal save by Johnson in OT we eek out a win.

- jak521

Well that's interesting because I posted this twice. I never said Bellemare was the glue that held up together. Bellemare went down and though we started flat, Hakstol had to throw on the ice different looks that I don't believe improved us, through no fault of his own.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 28 @ 9:05 AM ET
There are things I like about Hakstol and there are things I really dislike. I'm seeing signs of Berube in him. With this said, I don't view Hakstol as the game changer Hitchcock or Laviolette from the moment they got here.
- SuperSchennBros

Yea Laviolette was a total game changer from the moment he got here. Especially against the Caps in big blow out by the Flyers. Killed the caps.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 28 @ 9:05 AM ET
But the sky is falling. Please remove all positivity from here.
- jmatchett383


Insert the Savior, Vinny Va Dici
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 28 @ 9:06 AM ET
Medvedev also turned the puck over twice on the 1st goal, and then Ennis got around Giroux as well. Ennis is a good player who made a great individual effort, but as soon as that happened I knew it was going to be a long night.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 9:06 AM ET
Yea Laviolette was a total game changer from the moment he got here. Especially against the Caps in big blow out by the Flyers. Killed the caps.
- jak521


Was Lavi's first game the one where Carcillo got the 29-minute penalty?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 28 @ 9:07 AM ET
For as outworked as they were, they still could have won the hockey game.

I thought the Ennis goal was straight up luck. He could try that nonsense 100 times and it only goes in once.

- johndewar

It's still a bad goal by Mason allowed. If Michael Leighton allows the same type of goal, we all give an even more harsh reaction.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Oct 28 @ 9:07 AM ET
the Flyers are a lesser team
- vejim

Ditto!
Very disappointing showing last night. The proportion of time in D-zone to time in other 2 zones was simply unacceptable.
Jake is becoming detrimental to the success- he needs to score soon.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 28 @ 9:09 AM ET
It's still a bad goal by Mason allowed. If Michael Leighton allows the same type of goal, we all give an even more harsh reaction.
- SuperSchennBros


What should Mason have done differently to prevent the goal being scored?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:09 AM ET
There are things I like about Hakstol and there are things I really dislike. I'm seeing signs of Berube in him. With this said, I don't view Hakstol as the game changer Hitchcock or Laviolette from the moment they got here.
- SuperSchennBros



I hope Hakstol does show signs of Berube. When Berube first took over for Laviolette, he guided the Flyers to one of the best records in the NHL the rest of the season over that time span.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 28 @ 9:10 AM ET
Was Lavi's first game the one where Carcillo got the 29-minute penalty?
- jmatchett383

I believe it was.. if not the first, definitely within the first week. Point is, the season is young, Hakstol has done a pretty good job so far. Give him time.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 28 @ 9:11 AM ET
Yea Laviolette was a total game changer from the moment he got here. Especially against the Caps in big blow out by the Flyers. Killed the caps.
- jak521

How short sited can one person be? Your talking about game one, in a season where we not only dug ourselves a huge hole under John Stevens bit manage to climb out of it and get ti a Stanley Cup Final. Yeah but let's focus on the first game with little time to install a brand new system...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 9:12 AM ET
It's still a bad goal by Mason allowed. If Michael Leighton allows the same type of goal, we all give an even more harsh reaction.
- SuperSchennBros


That was puck luck. His positioning was fine. I was 6 rows off the ice, right along the goal line, so I had a pretty good view of it.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:12 AM ET
What should Mason have done differently to prevent the goal being scored?
- Feanor

stop thinking about his girlfriend
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Oct 28 @ 9:12 AM ET
What should Mason have done differently to prevent the goal being scored?
- Feanor

Could that goal have happened to anyone? You tell me.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:13 AM ET

- johndewar




Someone once attempted to slap me on the back while I was doing that, but it merely glanced off my shoulder...my face still froze in that contorted way for about an hour. That's why I scroll past certain avatars.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 9:13 AM ET
One thing I didn't realize because, I admit, I didn't see all that much of him in Colorado, but Ryan O'Reilly reminds me a bit of Keith Primeau. Big, strong guy that moves well and is hard on the puck. Good on faceoffs, even though I thought he got away with a lot last night on the dot.
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 28 @ 9:14 AM ET
That was puck luck. His positioning was fine. I was 6 rows off the ice, right along the goal line, so I had a pretty good view of it.
- johndewar

So
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:14 AM ET
Medvedev also turned the puck over twice on the 1st goal, and then Ennis got around Giroux as well. Ennis is a good player who made a great individual effort, but as soon as that happened I knew it was going to be a long night.
- Feanor



Medvedev got knocked off the puck on the half wall, but he never really had possession of it behind the net.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Oct 28 @ 9:14 AM ET
What should Mason have done differently to prevent the goal being scored?
- Feanor

Well, Mason said he would not have played it any differently. I wonder if any poster that has played goalie would provide any comments on that?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 9:15 AM ET
How short sited can one person be? Your talking about game one, in a season where we not only dug ourselves a huge hole under John Stevens bit manage to climb out of it and get ti a Stanley Cup Final. Yeah but let's focus on the first game with little time to install a brand new system...
- SuperSchennBros


I think he was being a bit facetious. But the Flyers did start out 2-7-1 in Lavi's first 10 games here.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Oct 28 @ 9:15 AM ET
I hope Hakstol does show signs of Berube. When Berube first took over for Laviolette, he guided the Flyers to one of the best records in the NHL the rest of the season over that time span.
- MJL

Yeah, me too. Berube is awesome!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:15 AM ET
That was puck luck. His positioning was fine. I was 6 rows off the ice, right along the goal line, so I had a pretty good view of it.
- johndewar



I just think it's one of those seeing eye goals that found a hole. If a shot is taken from the same spot again on the back hand, it isn't going in 99 out of 100 times.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 9:16 AM ET
So
- SuperSchennBros


It was as lucky as lucky gets. Sorry you feel otherwise.

/hugs
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 9:16 AM ET
I just think it's one of those seeing eye goals that found a hole. If a shot is taken from the same spot again on the back hand, it isn't going in 99 out of 100 times.
- MJL


Exactly.
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