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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:30 PM ET
Torts loves his friggen shot blockers. There has to be a way we can send AMac to Columbus...
- hereticpride


Would you take Scott Hartnell (and the rest of his contract) back?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 3:33 PM ET
Would you take Scott Hartnell (and the rest of his contract) back?
- johndewar

I would but Hexy apparently made it pretty clear he was not wanted here.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:38 PM ET
Would you take Scott Hartnell (and the rest of his contract) back?
- johndewar


Foligno, Clarkson, Bobvrovski, Dubinsky, Jack Johnson, Hartsy... man do they have a lot of bad contracts.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 21 @ 3:38 PM ET
Whipping boy? I think that would be a gross overreaction that yes, sadly some will here will probably have.

Short-term, he really is the best option for the LW spot on the 1st line. Long-term, he is a very good 2nd line winger, or a great 3rd line winger. He has the skill-set where he can be the beneficiary of a good playmaker. But he is not strong enough in creating offense for his linemates, IMO. When G and Jake struggle 5 on 5, he can't help them work through it. He also is not a pure sniper either.

Hextall should look to keep him as part of the core moving forward, but perhaps shift him down a line once a more viable option comes along.

- TheGreat28

What you explain here doesn't to me discrib a core player. I'm not knocking Raffl, he's a trigger man, does some dirty work out there and does what he can with what he has to work with but he can be replaced.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:39 PM ET
When I got the DVD collection a handful of years later though, V became my favorite....duh haha.
- Mononoke


Have you seen the original trilogy despecialized edition?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 21 @ 3:39 PM ET
Guys, before we go too far into these trade ideas, PhillySportsGay needs to bless them.
- Streit2ThePoint


Thank you.


Now let's all open to page...wait what did you call me?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:40 PM ET
(frank)ing fonzi.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:44 PM ET
My dad took me to the movies that summer and I had a choice of which movie I wanted to go to. I chose Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger.

No regrets.

- mayorofangrytown




I saw Star Wars because our parents gave us a choice, too. I have three younger brothers. Final results:

Star Wars: 3
Rollercoaster: 1

I lost. Still haven't seen Rollercoaster.

PS: thank you Google for reminding me it was 1977
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:52 PM ET


I saw Star Wars because our parents gave us a choice, too. I have three younger brothers. Final results:

Star Wars: 3
Rollercoaster: 1

I lost. Still haven't seen Rollercoaster.

PS: thank you Google for reminding me it was 1977

- Scoob


i saw SW in the theater in 77. i was almost 5 years old, and it blew my little mind away. SW geek ever since, although i pretend the pre-quels never happened.

i know conventional wisdom says TESB is the best of the bunch, but I love Jedi the most. i saw it 12 times in the theater over the course of its release that spring/summer of 83 and loved it every goddamn time. i have never, and i mean never, been in a theater when the audience stood and cheered like a live sporting event when the title sequence began and again when vader tossed the emperor down that endless shaft in the death star. literally standing and clapping and going berserk. something i will never forget.

and speaking of that scene, i still don't understand why vader losing his hand was a cause of death for him. makes zero sense to me.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Have you seen the original trilogy despecialized edition?
- Tomahawk


Don't know. I owned the 1997 VHS special edition which I was weened on. That has some of the most egregious changes. But I also owned and still do the 2004 DVD collection. I'd wager to say I haven't.

Han totally shot first though.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Thank you.


Now let's all open to page...wait what did you call me?

- PhillySportsGuy


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
(frank)ing fonzi.
- hammarby31

I know, it's so great

Can't stop thinking about Hartnell with his antics and Torts

Made my day, really
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Oct 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
Thanks Bill. Painful game to watch. I am beginning to wonder if they will ever be able to put together a full 60 minute game. Roussel ran over everybody last night. And you know what, everyone is going to do that if the Flyers don't respond. If Gagner is the only player willing to do something, then this is a team with poor character. On paper some of the guys look good, but on the ice it's a different story. How many times does a goalie have to bail out the team? Most of our shots were around the blue line, or the top of the circles. The Stars goalie was made to look like "the second coming" with shots like that. Hopefully, the team can bounce back tonight; since the B's are not bringing their "A" game tonight. However, if the lack of motivation is still present from last night, good luck boys. Can we beg Arizona for Duclair? Will the real Flyers team stand up? Will Hexy be forced to eat some salary in order to work out a trade for Vinny or McD? How many coaches will be forced out of a job, before the players are finally allowed to move on?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
i saw SW in the theater in 77. i was almost 5 years old, and it blew my little mind away. SW geek ever since, although i pretend the pre-quels never happened.

i know conventional wisdom says TESB is the best of the bunch, but I love Jedi the most. i saw it 12 times in the theater over the course of its release that spring/summer of 83 and loved it every goddamn time. i have never, and i mean never, been in a theater when the audience stood and cheered like a live sporting event when the title sequence began and again when vader tossed the emperor down that endless shaft in the death star. literally standing and clapping and going berserk. something i will never forget.

and speaking of that scene, i still don't understand why vader losing his hand was a cause of death for him. makes zero sense to me.

- hammarby31


I thought his cause of death was electrocution from getting fried while tossing the Emperor into that shaft.

The cut off hand just meant that he got his asthmatic ass kicked in that duel.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
Thank you.


Now let's all open to page...wait what did you call me?

- PhillySportsGuy


/dead

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
and Patrice Bergeron may not play because his wife is having a baby

congrats Patrice!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
Don't know. I owned the 1997 VHS special edition which I was weened on. That has some of the most egregious changes. But I also owned and still do the 2004 DVD collection. I'd wager to say I haven't.

Han totally shot first though.

- Mononoke


Yeah, that's what it's all about, lol, they undid a lot of Lucas' edits and restored the film back to its original form, in HD:



Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
i saw SW in the theater in 77. i was almost 5 years old, and it blew my little mind away. SW geek ever since, although i pretend the pre-quels never happened.

i know conventional wisdom says TESB is the best of the bunch, but I love Jedi the most. i saw it 12 times in the theater over the course of its release that spring/summer of 83 and loved it every goddamn time. i have never, and i mean never, been in a theater when the audience stood and cheered like a live sporting event when the title sequence began and again when vader tossed the emperor down that endless shaft in the death star. literally standing and clapping and going berserk. something i will never forget.

and speaking of that scene, i still don't understand why vader losing his hand was a cause of death for him. makes zero sense to me.

- hammarby31


Sorry, you lost me. I have only seen the 1977 movie.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
Don't know. I owned the 1997 VHS special edition which I was weened on. That has some of the most egregious changes. But I also owned and still do the 2004 DVD collection. I'd wager to say I haven't.

Han totally shot first though.

- Mononoke

Correction: Only Han shot.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
Yeah, that's what it's all about, lol, they undid a lot of Lucas' edits and restored the film back to its original form, in HD:


- Tomahawk


Yeah I'm aware of the worst changes. Damn it Lucas, go retouch Richard Dreyfuss flying away at the end of American Graffiti or something
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
I know, it's so great

Can't stop thinking about Hartnell with his antics and Torts

Made my day, really

- Marc D


omg, i didn't even think of that. good lord. the dramedy that will unfold.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
Correction: Only Han shot.
- BulliesPhan87


Thanks MJL
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
I enjoyed the prequels for what they were: Movies meant to fill in some gaps, show how Darth Vader came to be

When it comes to material like that, it takes a lot for me to actively dislike it. It's not exactly War and Peace, you know?

For what it's worth, I did think the guy who played the Emperor was awesome in the prequels
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
Correction: Only Han shot.
- BulliesPhan87


As well he should have.

He was a (frank)ing pirate and the other guy was a bounty hunter.

There was zero need to futz with that scene. Greedo had it coming.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
I thought his cause of death was electrocution from getting fried while tossing the Emperor into that shaft.

The cut off hand just meant that he got his asthmatic ass kicked in that duel.

- johndewar


i just did some digging and found this to be the reason. i never for once thought the "Force Lightning" that was still shooting out of the emperor's hands damaged vader because he doesn't get hit by the bolts, #1 and, #2, luke took an absolute direct beating with these bolts and he didn't die, so why would vader? i don't get it.
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