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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 7:38 PM ET
So what you're saying is that you want him to lose the plot in front of the camera? Show the whole world he's pissed?

Now as we don't know what happens behind closed doors, if he has his manner with the team then goes out & loses his cookie in front of the camera for us to see, how will that go down with his players?

Some coaches are just patient low profile characters that don't mess their hair up. He might kick the esky in the room but that may be it. I think his expression of that "wtf" look is him keeping himself from throwing himself onto the ice. Keeping it all inside. He probably goes home & weeps uncontrollably.

- Aussiepenguin

I think being pissy in front of a camera and calling people out in front of the world is a bad look and classless. What I don't like is how he carries himself on the bench. He has that same pensive expression with his arms crossed 100% of the time. No fire in his eyes. Just kind of there, observing. I don't know what happens in practice behind closed doors but I have a pretty good idea that he doesn't have a killer's mentality like winners normally do.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Oct 14 @ 7:41 PM ET
I think being pissy in front of a camera and calling people out in front of the world is a bad look and classless. What I don't like is how he carries himself on the bench. He has that same pensive expression with his arms crossed 100% of the time. No fire in his eyes. Just kind of there, observing. I don't know what happens in practice behind closed doors but I have a pretty good idea that he doesn't have a killer's mentality like winners normally do.
- Victoro311

Exactly. He doesn't need to be Mr heart on his sleeve he just needs more personality and show more emotions than the average rock.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 14 @ 7:46 PM ET
I think being pissy in front of a camera and calling people out in front of the world is a bad look and classless. What I don't like is how he carries himself on the bench. He has that same pensive expression with his arms crossed 100% of the time. No fire in his eyes. Just kind of there, observing. I don't know what happens in practice behind closed doors but I have a pretty good idea that he doesn't have a killer's mentality like winners normally do.
- Victoro311


We've got a coach here in our Rugby League that is probably the equivalent to MJ. Very rarely does he ever show anything - granted he's in a box in the grandstand & not down on the sideline but he still is pretty much emotionless. Never gets angry but does speak his mind with the press - who he despises on the most part. He is our best coach in the competition - not everyone likes him but he has been very successful & coached Queensland & Australia.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 7:49 PM ET
We've got a coach here in our Rugby League that is probably the equivalent to MJ. Very rarely does he ever show anything - granted he's in a box in the grandstand & not down on the sideline but he still is pretty much emotionless. Never gets angry but does speak his mind with the press - who he despises on the most part. He is our best coach in the competition - not everyone likes him but he has been very successful & coached Queensland & Australia.
- Aussiepenguin

Welp, I hope the same for Magic Mike, but I'm starting to be less confident.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 14 @ 7:52 PM ET
Exactly. He doesn't need to be Mr heart on his sleeve he just needs more personality and show more emotions than the average rock.
- Zac_O


How about he shows more intelligence and makes Scuderi 7th dman?
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Oct 14 @ 7:54 PM ET
We've got a coach here in our Rugby League that is probably the equivalent to MJ. Very rarely does he ever show anything - granted he's in a box in the grandstand & not down on the sideline but he still is pretty much emotionless. Never gets angry but does speak his mind with the press - who he despises on the most part. He is our best coach in the competition - not everyone likes him but he has been very successful & coached Queensland & Australia.
- Aussiepenguin

I believe Johnston s lack of showing passion trickles down the team. The team gets no passion for winning from the coach who wants to stay cold cool and collected. So they feel less passion themselves.

The coach on the Minnesota Vikings is a calm but angry and passionate man. His passion to win and compete has made his players respect him and made them want to win. He will yell at you on the sidelines if he feels its needed. He will also hug and high five players. Everyone loves him. Especially the players. That's what a coach should be. Passionate to the point of caring to much to it makes the players care.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Oct 14 @ 7:56 PM ET
How about he shows more intelligence and makes Scuderi 7th dman?
- jfkst1

That's a whole new world when talking about Johnston. Haha
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 14 @ 8:03 PM ET
That's a whole new world when talking about Johnston. Haha
- Zac_O


Good decision making > every other characteristic for an NHL coach. If he isn't putting the best players in the best position to succeed, then he isn't going to succeed in this league.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Oct 14 @ 8:06 PM ET
How about he shows more intelligence and makes Scuderi 7th dman?
- jfkst1

I agree, Its time... not getting involved in the earlier tiff.. accept to say I saw Scuds as a 5-7 d man before the season... Reality: he's now a 6-8 (with a stupid contract)... It's time to see Clendening or Erixon... I was wrong gentlemen!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:08 PM ET
I agree, Its time... not getting involved in the earlier tiff.. accept to say I saw Scuds as a 5-7 d man before the season... Reality: he's now a 6-8 (with a stupid contract)... It's time to see Clendening or Erixon... I was wrong gentlemen!
- Brianandr1

During the preseason I thought that Clendening should play over Dumoulin. Really happy they believed in Dumo and let him play because he's been a bright spot. But now its time Clendening plays.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Oct 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
During the preseason I thought that Clendening should play over Dumoulin. Really happy they believed in Dumo and let him play because he's been a bright spot. But now its time Clendening plays.
- Victoro311

Agreed! Its time to see Clens... Though I wonder if it will be Lovejoy or Scuds that sits. Erixon is on the roster but we ve seen and heard very little... does anyone have any info?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 14 @ 8:15 PM ET
I know it's too early to fire the coach, but nobody can like the effort we've seen so far. I think they have played 2 and half periods out of 9. This is why I wanted Mike Babcock. Somebody with the gravitas to handle some of our stubborn stars. They really missed the boat on not bidding him.

I like HCMJ. I like his system for the most part, but this is a team that needs a psychological enema and I'm not sure MJ is the man for the job. Nice guy and smart, but not for this team.

There's no excuse for Sid and Geno to start the season so lethargic. None.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:21 PM ET
Agreed! Its time to see Clens... Though I wonder if it will be Lovejoy or Scuds that sits. Erixon is on the roster but we ve seen and heard very little... does anyone have any info?
- Brianandr1

Despite Lovejoy being serviceable thus far, I think there's a better chance he sits than Scuderi. I have lost all faith that management and the coaching staff will do anything smart when handling this putrid Scuderi situation, including buying him out this coming offseason. I legitimately believe they think he is a big part of this team. They may even extend the guy...
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:21 PM ET
During the preseason I thought that Clendening should play over Dumoulin. Really happy they believed in Dumo and let him play because he's been a bright spot. But now its time Clendening plays.
- Victoro311




#dingergointospintheshoesofyamj
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Oct 14 @ 8:23 PM ET
Despite Lovejoy being serviceable thus far, I think there's a better chance he sits than Scuderi. I have lost all faith that management and the coaching staff will do anything smart when handling this putrid Scuderi situation, including buying him out this coming offseason. I legitimately believe they think he is a big part of this team. They may even extend the guy...
- Victoro311

Highly doubt it... Its clear he should have been bought out... I wonder if the attempt to sell the team was an issue as far as a buyout goes...
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 14 @ 8:24 PM ET
I know it's too early to fire the coach, but nobody can like the effort we've seen so far. I think they have played 2 and half periods out of 9. This is why I wanted Mike Babcock. Somebody with the gravitas to handle some of our stubborn stars. They really missed the boat on not bidding him.

I like HCMJ. I like his system for the most part, but this is a team that needs a psychological enema and I'm not sure MJ is the man for the job. Nice guy and smart, but not for this team.

There's no excuse for Sid and Geno to start the season so lethargic. None.

- madmike71


I agree with most of this. The lack of effort is what bothers me way more than losing. At least last year when the team was depleted from injuries and were losing they tried.
Don't think the Pens were ever going to pay that much for Babcock. Pegula and MLSE can and will outspend anyone and I don't think anyone other than BUF or TOR had a chance with Babcock.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:32 PM ET


#dingergointospintheshoesofyamj

- Aussiepenguin

Your hashtags are outrageous.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 14 @ 8:34 PM ET
I agree with most of this. The lack of effort is what bothers me way more than losing. At least last year when the team was depleted from injuries and were losing they tried.
Don't think the Pens were ever going to paying that much for Babcock. Pegula and MSLE can and will outspend anyone and I don't think anyone other than BUF or TOR had a chance with Babcock.

- jfkst1


I don't think his salary would have been an issue. His presence probably would have raised the asking price for the team. If he got them on a couple of long runs they EASILY make that money back anyway.

We never got in the bidding, so we'll never know. Maybe he even takes less or a shorter term deal because of the "ready made" status of the players. At the very least, a phone call should have been made.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:38 PM ET
Welp, I hope the same for Magic Mike, but I'm starting to be less confident.
- Victoro311


As I said before if the team is running like a well oiled machine & everyone is putting in & the results aren't coming then there is a problem with the system. If you say its up to the coach to motivate his players -yes that is 1 of his jobs but sometimes no matter what he does the player will play the way he wants to play. Is that a coaches problem? Depends on the circumstance but that player will receive the "help" from his team mates before things get out of hand, & it comes to a head. 3 games in is way to early to suggest the coach be replaced & the system doesn't work if ALL the players aren't playing well.

Id still like to see a few more hits that count - you know the ones where everyone is talking about it after the game. Something to get the team going - Pavs on Lucic type. Its actually a perfect scenario for Scudsmuffin to let rip a HUUUUUUUUGE hipcheck.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:39 PM ET
I don't think his salary would have been an issue. His presence probably would have raised the asking price for the team. If he got them on a couple of long runs they EASILY make that money back anyway.

We never got in the bidding, so we'll never know. Maybe he even takes less or a shorter term deal because of the "ready made" status of the players. At the very least, a phone call should have been made.

- madmike71


To be fair it would have been ridiculous poor form to go after another coach while you already have one on retainer. Not much better to fire a coach after just one season, but I think we had a legit out with MJ. Yeah there were injuries, but at the end of the day we did terrible the second half of the season, or PP tanked, and we had a first round exit, but then what happens when you fire your coach and don't get Babcock? I'll answer that for you: John Hynes. You know, in the process of writing this post I've convinced myself that we should have fired MJ, but hind site is 20/20.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:42 PM ET
As I said before if the team is running like a well oiled machine & everyone is putting in & the results aren't coming then there is a problem with the system. If you say its up to the coach to motivate his players -yes that is 1 of his jobs but sometimes no matter what he does the player will play the way he wants to play. Is that a coaches problem? Depends on the circumstance but that player will receive the "help" from his team mates before things get out of hand, & it comes to a head. 3 games in is way to early to suggest the coach be replaced & the system doesn't work if ALL the players aren't playing well.

Id still like to see a few more hits that count - you know the ones where everyone is talking about it after the game. Something to get the team going - Pavs on Lucic type. Its actually a perfect scenario for Scudsmuffin to let rip a HUUUUUUUUGE hipcheck.

- Aussiepenguin


Did you see the check that Kunitz laid last night open ice? That's definitely the hit to right home about.

I understand that not all hits are created equal, but when you out hit a team by 10, its pretty safe to say that you're playing more physical than the other team.
thevelvetfog1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.19.2015

Oct 14 @ 8:45 PM ET
I agree, Its time... not getting involved in the earlier tiff.. accept to say I saw Scuds as a 5-7 d man before the season... Reality: he's now a 6-8 (with a stupid contract)... It's time to see Clendening or Erixon... I was wrong gentlemen!
- Brianandr1

Whoa! Someone admitting they were wrong - haven't seen that on here before.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:49 PM ET
Whoa! Someone admitting they were wrong - haven't seen that on here before.
- thevelvetfog1


Yes I'm wrong!

I thought you were going to reply to me.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:50 PM ET
Currently watching the Sens and Jackets game. Sens look good all around. All players working hard. Columbus looks great in the offensive zone. Bad in their own zone.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 14 @ 8:51 PM ET
Whoa! Someone admitting they were wrong - haven't seen that on here before.
- thevelvetfog1

You know, in your entire "crucify me" tirade you didn't once respond to either Aussie or I so quite honestly go ahead and yell about how no one debates hockey with you all you want but just make sure to go (frank) yourself afterwards.
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