Ha. Marner a boy among men.

More like a BOYES among MARNER'S
- AdamFrench

Comon!!

Oh.

My.

God.


Nylander is now 193lbs by the way. That puts him a bit heavier than Stamkos. Is he still too small?
- lumlums

yes

Chara is undersized for leaf fans

False. No one enjoys Nuit Blanche.
- BetterCallSaul

Well, no one you know enjoys it.

Yeah...no.


Toews is like 200. Stamkos 195.
- Pecafan Fan

Would you trade Nylander for either one of these guys?

Would you trade Nylander for either one of these guys?
- PrinceLH

How about letting Nylander play a few NHL games first?

Would you trade Nylander for either one of these guys?
- PrinceLH

Yeah...no.


Toews is like 200. Stamkos 195.
- Pecafan Fan

He seems to think that every 1c is built like Sundin

Oh.

My.

God.


Nylander is now 193lbs by the way. That puts him a bit heavier than Stamkos. Is he still too small?
- lumlums

people just wanna hate

anyone who thinks a typical prospect should be ready at 18-19 years old is a fool in my books

99% of the time you have to let them become men.. there is the odd 1% who are.. but I am being generous with the 1% i think as well.

- markmark

How about letting Nylander play a few NHL games first?
- Pecafan Fan

What this (frank) do you think this is? We knew Marner and Nylander were bad picks three years ago.

It's curious that they've waited until now, to make Nylander a centre and want to train him now. I hope that he can transition, because we really need a good number one. I fear that he ends up being a number two and that we still have that gaping hole for the foreseeable future.
- PrinceLH

you are aware the leafs time table to compete is a few years away right?

learn patience

What this (frank) do you think this is? We knew Marner and Nylander were bad picks three years ago.
- BetterCallSaul

How about letting Nylander play a few NHL games first?
- Pecafan Fan

NO

next year sure

people just wanna hate

anyone who thinks a typical prospect should be ready at 18-19 years old is a fool in my books

99% of the time you have to let them become men.. there is the odd 1% who are.. but I am being generous with the 1% i think as well.
- Dozzer

Just look at how many kids 18 have won Rookie of the year.

Oh, ok. So if Texiera wasn't made of glass the Yankees would be a better team. Even though the Jays have lost their starting 2nd baseman and Shortstop. Makes sense.
- BetterCallSaul

Pitching wins championships. Tananka and Sabathia were both big loses. Although Sabathia is back, he's not up to speed and may not get there by the playoffs. The Yankees pen is much better then the Jays. It's hard to lose two of your rotation pitchers and stay competitive. Devan Travis wasn't coming back, after his injuries to start the season. Tulo wasn't hitting a ton, but his defense was stellar.

Just look at how many kids 18 have won Rookie of the year.
- bixll

dont ask me to research things on monday

people just wanna hate

anyone who thinks a typical prospect should be ready at 18-19 years old is a fool in my books

99% of the time you have to let them become men.. there is the odd 1% who are.. but I am being generous with the 1% i think as well.
- Dozzer

And even those who are physically ready to withstand the NHL have to learn to play and think the game at NHL speed.


Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and break the bad news to some Oilers fan... at 195lbs there's no way that McDavid will ever become the 1C that they hope for...

NO

next year sure
- Dozzer

Agreed! Why waste a year of control on his entry level deal, when you won't be competitive anyway? The Leafs will probably still finish 10th, or around there, but still not get close enough to make a run at the playoffs. It would take Ottawa, Boston and at least one other playoff team, from last year, to make it happen. Not going to to happen!

And even those who are physically ready to withstand the NHL have to learn to play and think the game at NHL speed.


Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and break the bad news to some Oilers fan... at 195lbs there's no way that McDavid will ever become the 1C that they hope for...
- lumlums

there is also all the non hockey related things that a person needs to mature into

Agreed! Why waste a year of control on his entry level deal, when you won't be competitive anyway? The Leafs will probably still finish 10th, or around there, but still not get close enough to make a run at the playoffs. It would take Ottawa, Boston and at least one other playoff team, from last year, to make it happen. Not going to to happen!
- PrinceLH

nylander is already on his ELC

this season is year 2

the only thing keeping him in the minors does is not use up one of his RFA years

but his ELC is still activated

Pitching wins championships. Tananka and Sabathia were both big loses. Although Sabathia is back, he's not up to speed and may not get there by the playoffs. The Yankees pen is much better then the Jays. It's hard to lose two of your rotation pitchers and stay competitive. Devan Travis wasn't coming back, after his injuries to start the season. Tulo wasn't hitting a ton, but his defense was stellar.
- PrinceLH

Jays have been (frank)ing awesome.. Yankees werent catching them ever

(frank) the stupid Yankees

nylander is already on his ELC

this season is year 2

the only thing keeping him in the minors does is not use up one of his RFA years

but his ELC is still activated
- Dozzer

So basically, it takes him longer to get to his UFA years?

Agreed! Why waste a year of control on his entry level deal, when you won't be competitive anyway? The Leafs will probably still finish 10th, or around there, but still not get close enough to make a run at the playoffs. It would take Ottawa, Boston and at least one other playoff team, from last year, to make it happen. Not going to to happen!
- PrinceLH

How are you, as far as you are, away from reality? Are you explaining to US why you don't think the Leafs will make the playoffs this year?

How are you, as far as you are, away from reality? Are you explaining to US why you don't think the Leafs will make the playoffs this year?
- walshyleafsfan

He's just part of the old guard. He still clings to the belief that the best way to build a team is making sure your team can beat up the opponent. It may return to that one day, but the league is shifting towards speed, skill, and keeping possession of the puck through those attributes. It will remain that way for a while.



Real revelation, I know.

So basically, it takes him longer to get to his UFA years?
- PrinceLH

correct

he will just get paid more as a RFA

or.. til he's 27