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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:33 AM ET
Seriously, what this should tell us is HOW flawed "advanced stats currently are".
- BorjeFan4Ever

I think it helps highlight that holding onto the puck, doubling back, doing a loop in your own zone, trying to push forward again and ending up losing the puck behind the enemies net is really good on the possession driving scale...and not particularly effective in reality.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 28 @ 8:38 AM ET
I think it helps highlight that holding onto the puck, doubling back, doing a loop in your own zone, trying to push forward again and ending up losing the puck behind the enemies net is really good on the possession driving scale...and not particularly effective in reality.
- AdamFrench




Just watch the games Nerd.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:38 AM ET
Just watch the games Nerd.
- bixll

Confirmation Bias
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Sep 28 @ 8:44 AM ET
1 day closer to puck drop
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 28 @ 8:45 AM ET
Confirmation Bias
- AdamFrench



Confirm Bias of what ?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 28 @ 8:52 AM ET
Hello.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Sep 28 @ 9:00 AM ET
Hello.
- Pecafan Fan

hey now
Daddichronic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: T.
Joined: 01.13.2014

Sep 28 @ 9:03 AM ET
I really wasn't impressed with Marner..at all,I hope he turns out to be ok..I expected more out of him this training camp
Cfser
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Anyone who claims insider know
Joined: 07.26.2006

Sep 28 @ 9:04 AM ET
Hello.
- Pecafan Fan



Stop trolling troll!

That was a very sarcastic hello!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 28 @ 9:09 AM ET
Zajac > Bozak

Or is Zajac not a NHL'r either?

- Garnie



Zajac has put up an avg of like35 pts last 5 years so there's that.


Bozaks contract not good but zajacs is.even worse. More.$ more term.

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Sep 28 @ 9:11 AM ET
I really wasn't impressed with Marner..at all,I hope he turns out to be ok..I expected more out of him this training camp
- Daddichronic



I was at the game on Friday and I saw #84 and I thought to myself "hey when did the Leaf re-acquire Grabovsky!"
It was a D'uh moment

That was Marner on the ice wearing #84.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Sep 28 @ 9:13 AM ET
Zajac has put up an avg of like35 pts last 5 years so there's that.


Bozaks contract not good but zajacs is.even worse. More.$ more term.

- burn



Less production.

I'd keep Bozak and see what he can do with Kessel.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:15 AM ET
I was at the game on Friday and I saw #84 and I thought to myself "hey when the Leaf re-acquire Grabovsky!"
It was a D'uh moment

That was Marner on the ice wearing #84.

- zazzle

I kinda want to see him on a line with JVR and Bozak.


21-42-81 always bugged me. 21-42-84 is so much better.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:18 AM ET
Can we all at least agree Glencross is done?
- AdamFrench



Fairly certain he could make the Devils roster at this point.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:20 AM ET
I really wasn't impressed with Marner..at all,I hope he turns out to be ok..I expected more out of him this training camp
- Daddichronic


Remember how everyone on here was saying Marner was going to be the next Claude Giroux, and that Dylan Strome was just another large, slow skating 2nd line centre? That if we had a choice between Strome and Marner, that we should take Marner? I guess it's why most of us will never be a GM in the NHL, AHL or CHL. Not saying that Strome is going to be better, but I think that he has tools that will make him a better pro then Marner, mostly size and being a true centre. Marner will end up being a small winger, with speed......where have we seen this movie before?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:21 AM ET
Remember how everyone on here was saying Marner was going to be the next Claude Giroux, and that Dylan Strome was just another large, slow skating 2nd line centre? That if we had a choice between Strome and Marner, that we should take Marner? I guess it's why most of us will never be a GM in the NHL, AHL or CHL. Not saying that Strome is going to be better, but I think that he has tools that will make him a better pro then Marner, mostly size and being a true centre. Marner will end up being a small winger, with speed......where have we seen this movie before?
- PrinceLH

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:22 AM ET
Donaldson is absolutely CLUTCH!!!
MVP easily.

Man it sucks going from watching the Jays game to the leafs game and their slow no skill version of hockey.
Ugh.

I heard on 590 this morning that some reporter in NJ posted something about a Zajac for JVR or Kadri trade. HAHAHA.....he's gotta be drunk.....he has to be....right? If the leafs management do that trade , they should all be fired and shot.
stupid rumours.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:22 AM ET
Fairly certain he could make the Devils roster at this point.
- smellmyfinger

Glencross's torn up PTO for Zajac, Zacha, and a 1st.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 28 @ 9:22 AM ET
I was at the game on Friday and I saw #84 and I thought to myself "hey when did the Leaf re-acquire Grabovsky!"
It was a D'uh moment

That was Marner on the ice wearing #84.

- zazzle


Somebody was wearing 71 too for sure that guy is cursed
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:23 AM ET
I really wasn't impressed with Marner..at all,I hope he turns out to be ok..I expected more out of him this training camp
- Daddichronic


well

he is only a kid

playing against men

i didnt expect much outta him truthfully.. he has to grow into a mans body first
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:24 AM ET
Remember how everyone on here was saying Marner was going to be the next Claude Giroux, and that Dylan Strome was just another large, slow skating 2nd line centre? That if we had a choice between Strome and Marner, that we should take Marner? I guess it's why most of us will never be a GM in the NHL, AHL or CHL. Not saying that Strome is going to be better, but I think that he has tools that will make him a better pro then Marner, mostly size and being a true centre. Marner will end up being a small winger, with speed......where have we seen this movie before?
- PrinceLH

I liked them both.....but I didnt think Strome would be available by the time the leafs picked.

Marner was meh in camp....but he's young...he'll be fine.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:24 AM ET
Zajac has put up an avg of like35 pts last 5 years so there's that.


Bozaks contract not good but zajacs is.even worse. More.$ more term.

- burn


Has anyone ever thought, that maybe the Devils will retain half of Zajac's salary and that they end up with Bozak at full price? We get Zajac for two more years, but at a reduced rate. If we ended up buying out the last couple of years, the cap hit would be even more reduced. Maybe Zajac would actually play out his full contract and be an effective Leaf for under 3 million a year.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:25 AM ET
Donaldson is absolutely CLUTCH!!!
MVP easily.

Man it sucks going from watching the Jays game to the leafs game and their slow no skill version of hockey.
Ugh.

I heard on 590 this morning that some reporter in NJ posted something about a Zajac for JVR or Kadri trade. HAHAHA.....he's gotta be drunk.....he has to be....right? If the leafs management do that trade , they should all be fired and shot.
stupid rumours.

- Fakepartofme

It's gonna suck when neither the Jays or Leafs win their respective Championships this year.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:25 AM ET
Remember how everyone on here was saying Marner was going to be the next Claude Giroux, and that Dylan Strome was just another large, slow skating 2nd line centre? That if we had a choice between Strome and Marner, that we should take Marner? I guess it's why most of us will never be a GM in the NHL, AHL or CHL. Not saying that Strome is going to be better, but I think that he has tools that will make him a better pro then Marner, mostly size and being a true centre. Marner will end up being a small winger, with speed......where have we seen this movie before?
- PrinceLH






(And Donaldson )
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:26 AM ET
well

he is only a kid

playing against men

i didnt expect much outta him truthfully.. he has to grow into a mans body first

- Dozzer


The problem is.....he was selected 4th overall in a very deep draft. He looked like a boy against men out there. He'll be OK, in two to three years, but I don't see him being the next Claude Giroux.
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