jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Jon Rosen ✔ @lakingsinsider
Interesting that many players aren't too keen on advanced stats. Drew Doughty: "I think that Corsi thing is a bunch of crap, personally" - jimbro83
So what? Steve Yzerman is a HOFer and he uses it. Gretzky and Jordan are two of the best team athletes of all time and they both sucked at managing teams. Being a great player =\= being good at managing a team. Separate skill sets. |
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Define modern?
Jonathan Quick 2012: 16-4 1.41GAA .946 SVPCT. - smellmyfinger
I'd agree that Quick was dominant, but so was the team in front of him which is why they went through the postseason so quickly. Thomas had a higher postseason adjusted save percentage in 5 more games. But I could definitely see the argument for Quick. |
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Devils9503
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 07.25.2011
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8. New Jersey Devils (Going for 30th place is in their best interest)
If the Devils are trying to be competitive, then I guess it would be fine, but it's not in their best interest because of the lottery change. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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So what? Steve Yzerman is a HOFer and he uses it. Gretzky and Jordan are two of the best team athletes of all time and they both sucked at managing teams. Being a great player =\= being good at managing a team. Separate skill sets. - jfkst1
USES it, it's a lot different than basing every single thing around it, which is what this blog did. |
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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USES it, it's a lot different than basing every single thing around it, which is what this blog did. - jimbro83
Well for one you were calling it worthless so that already refutes your argument. Secondly, we don't know how much he is relying on it so it very well could be exclusively or almost exclusively. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Am I the only one who would be a little concerned with Letang and Maata as my #1 and #2 defenders? |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Jon Rosen ✔ @lakingsinsider
Interesting that many players aren't too keen on advanced stats. Drew Doughty: "I think that Corsi thing is a bunch of crap, personally" - jimbro83
That's because he saw that Muzzin is ranked ahead of him most years so I don't blame him  Especially since 99% would agree that Doughty is better. |
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Am I the only one who would be a little concerned with Letang and Maata as my #1 and #2 defenders? - wolfhounds
No Pens fans are very concerned about health. No team has lost more minutes to injuries this decade than Pittsburgh and it's not even close. But at some point if the team is going to contend they have to stay healthy. |
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Snowblind
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 03.08.2014
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How can you bash the Jackets for their defense and simultaneously pick the Pens to win the division?
Pens easily have the weakest D depth of the 5 good teams.
1. Caps
2. Rangers
3. Isles
4. Pens
5. Jackets |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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This division is pretty damn competitive. |
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Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals |
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Location: richmond, VA Joined: 10.11.2010
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Jon Rosen ✔ @lakingsinsider
Interesting that many players aren't too keen on advanced stats. Drew Doughty: "I think that Corsi thing is a bunch of crap, personally" - jimbro83
Yes, because a meathead who took, like, mail-in high school and makes millions of dollars, is going to care to understand it. |
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Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals |
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Location: richmond, VA Joined: 10.11.2010
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How can you bash the Jackets for their defense and simultaneously pick the Pens to win the division?
Pens easily have the weakest D depth of the 5 good teams.
1. Caps
2. Rangers
3. Isles
4. Pens
5. Jackets - Snowblind
Pens
Isles
Caps
Jackets
Devils
Canes
Rags
edit; (frank) the Flyers.
Seriously though, trying to pick this division is just grasping at straws. I think you have two teams considered favorites (Pens and Rags) and the Isles and Caps following close behind. Jackets and Flyers can pose a threat. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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If the Jackets can actually stay healthy, they'll cause some problems. Isles and Rangers are definitely my top 2. |
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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How can you bash the Jackets for their defense and simultaneously pick the Pens to win the division?
Pens easily have the weakest D depth of the 5 good teams.
1. Caps
2. Rangers
3. Isles
4. Pens
5. Jackets - Snowblind
No way is CBJ better defensively than PIT. That's completely unsupported by evidence. |
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Danformo
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 03.22.2012
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Isles/Pens 1&2 I'm undecided
Caps
Rangers
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Flyers
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So what? Steve Yzerman is a HOFer and he uses it. Gretzky and Jordan are two of the best team athletes of all time and they both sucked at managing teams. Being a great player =\= being good at managing a team. Separate skill sets. - jfkst1
How do you know Yzerman uses it? |
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Jon Rosen ✔ @lakingsinsider
Interesting that many players aren't too keen on advanced stats. Drew Doughty: "I think that Corsi thing is a bunch of crap, personally" - jimbro83
20. He’s never explained to me how his process works, but Tortorella has a way of looking at games through scoring chances. Breaking down how they happen gives him a true picture of what occurred. In a Tampa radio interview, Tortorella said he spent last season trying to learn about analytics. So what did he uncover? “You know what, not much…There are so many red flags going on with analytics. Corsi, Fenwick…(The year he coached in Vancouver), we were 10th in puck possession and finished 25th. Last year, LA was fifth and didn’t make it. It’s so media driven, it’s taken on a life of its own. It’s not Billy Beane, it’s an instinctive sport. It’s who you are playing against, and on a shot anything can happen. You have to be careful not to be controlled by numbers. You can’t sacrifice your beliefs to get along with the norm.” |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Rangers
Pens
Caps
Jackets
Flyers
Isles
NJ
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Snowblind
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 03.08.2014
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Rangers
Pens
Caps
Jackets
Flyers
Isles
NJ
Canes - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Sure, guy, sure. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Pens
Isles
Caps
Jackets
Devils
Canes
Rags
edit; (frank) the Flyers.
Seriously though, trying to pick this division is just grasping at straws. I think you have two teams considered favorites (Pens and Rags) and the Isles and Caps following close behind. Jackets and Flyers can pose a threat. - Blackstrom2
I was cool til I got to you edit. Now I'm all  and |
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bondraovie
Washington Capitals |
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Location: baltimore, MD Joined: 07.03.2012
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Caps are the best in the division but you could make legit argument for any of the big 5. Injuries and trade deadline should decide it
1.Was
2.Pit
3.NYR
4.NYI
5.Colu |
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Caps are the best in the division but you could make legit argument for any of the big 5. Injuries and trade deadline should decide it
1.Was
2.Pit
3.NYR
4.NYI
5.Colu - bondraovie
Bold statement, love to hear the reasoning behind it. |
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bondraovie
Washington Capitals |
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Location: baltimore, MD Joined: 07.03.2012
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Bold statement, love to hear the reasoning behind it. - smellmyfinger
Best roster they've ever had, Rags losses and Pens D. That said we're not the best by much. As I said, any of those 5 could win it and I wouldn't be stunned. NYI and Colu have huge upside |
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Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals |
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Location: richmond, VA Joined: 10.11.2010
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I was cool til I got to you edit. Now I'm all and  - wolfhounds
I forgot them at first. haha |
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Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals |
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Location: richmond, VA Joined: 10.11.2010
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Best roster they've ever had, Rags losses and Pens D. That said we're not the best by much. As I said, any of those 5 could win it and I wouldn't be stunned. NYI and Colu have huge upside - bondraovie
As a Caps fan, I disagree that this is the best roster they've ever had. Is it the best roster, on paper, in the Ovechkin era? Yes.
Can Oshie or whoever, help turn the even strength play of our top line? I (frank)ing hope so. |
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