Do you think Vinny is soft because he's been hurt in recent years or do you think him a soft player?

I think Vinny's recent work is subject to criticism, but soft isn't the description that comes to mind.
- johndewar

I don't think he's soft so much as he just isn't good in today's game.

Anyone else think that a 7-year, $29M contract for a guy with 77 total games of NHL experience is a tad crazy?
- jmatchett383

Yes it is. It's the typical gamble by an NHL team that if they overpay early, they'll get a bargain on the back end as the player grows. The problem is that it sets the market for other players.

Do you think Vinny is soft because he's been hurt in recent years or do you think him a soft player?

I think Vinny's recent work is subject to criticism, but soft isn't the description that comes to mind.
- johndewar

Injuries and age being the biggest culprit. He's not beating anyone to anywhere on the ice and is easily canceled out. Gagner is a small slow body with some definite skill. Think of a bit better akeson. Umberger was getting to the corners first on that line routinely last night and winning. Gagner was easily tied up and pinned by AHL and junior hands

nay

@ GiG

Not a ton.



Basically, he's big and very "raw." He's on an ELC so he's likely back to juniors for 2 more years.
- jmatchett383

lottery ticket.

I don't think he's soft so much as he just isn't good in today's game.
- jmatchett383

He's got to move better, no doubt.

They're so bad together Tampa put up a poster to warn other teams what not to do.


- Feanor

looks like the writing is on the wall for Stamkos.

Yes it is. It's the typical gamble by an NHL team that if they overpay early, they'll get a bargain on the back end as the player grows. The problem is that it sets the market for other players.
- MJL

That's my fear. If he gets this, then what is the market for Seth Jones, Hampus Lindholm, Brandon Gormley, Jacob Triuba, Olli Maata, and a variety of other young players who have played and produced more than he has so far? Heck, what is the market value for veterans like Brent Seabrook and Erik Johnson?

Bump.

Need 4 more votes.
- Giroux_Is_God

_nay_

Flyers sign PHILIPPE MYERS


The #Flyers have signed 6'5, 196lb defenseman Philippe Myers to an entry level deal. He was on an ATO during training camp.
— Anthony Mingioni (@AnthonyMingioni) September 21, 2015


anyone have any insight on this kid?
- rinaldo

Skates well for such a big-framed young player. Seems poised under pressure. Makes a decent simple first pass.

That's my fear. If he gets this, then what is the market for Seth Jones, Hampus Lindholm, Brandon Gormley, Jacob Triuba, Olli Maata, and a variety of other young players who have played and produced more than he has so far? Heck, what is the market value for veterans like Brent Seabrook and Erik Johnson?
- jmatchett383

I agree, although I don't think Gormley belongs on that list. Brent Seabrooke if he wants to test free agency is going to be well paid, or he could take a discount to stay with the Hawks.

blow me
- rinaldo

This is the type of genius that you usually save for PMs

Gormley's only played 32 NHL games and scored 4 points, and just got traded to Colorado. Did you mean someone else?

Gormley's only played 32 NHL games and scored 4 points, and just got traded to Colorado. Did you mean someone else?
- Feanor

Compared to a guy has played 77 games with a grand total of 23 points, I don't think he's all that far off. It's not like comparing him to Erik Karlsson. But fine, take him off if you want and replace him with any other highly-touted defenseman on an ELC.

Skates well for such a big-framed young player. Seems poised under pressure. Makes a decent simple first pass.
- bmeltzer

He was paired with Sanheim last Wed at rookie practice. He was noticeable, in a good way. Had to look him up using your camp roster (thanks for that by the way!). He looked halfway decent. Seemed to retrieve the puck quickly and move it up ice. Definitely worth a contract.

Yes, go right up that escalator to the suite level Vinny!
- jmatchett383

Skates well for such a big-framed young player. Seems poised under pressure. Makes a decent simple first pass.
- bmeltzer

Your opinion on his upper ceiling?

Skates well for such a big-framed young player. Seems poised under pressure. Makes a decent simple first pass.
- bmeltzer

why wouldn't be still be draft eligible Bill? thanks.

Compared to a guy has played 77 games with a grand total of 23 points, I don't think he's all that far off. It's not like comparing him to Erik Karlsson. But fine, take him off if you want and replace him with any other highly-touted defenseman on an ELC.
- jmatchett383

I think they key difference is that the team who drafted Gormley five years ago just gave up on him.

why wouldn't be still be draft eligible Bill? thanks.
- rinaldo

I believe he was draft eligible but was passed over.

I think they key difference is that the team who drafted Gormley five years ago just gave up on him.
- Feanor

Fine, remove him from the list. I obviously know nothing.

I believe he was draft eligible but was passed over.
- jmatchett383

isn't he still only 18 though?

Fine, remove him from the list. I obviously know nothing.
- jmatchett383

Let's replace him with Gostisbehere.

at the morning skate... don't recognize half the faces lol

as for the victory gif can we just go back to the old truman "we win" meme pic thingie

at the morning skate... don't recognize half the faces lol

as for the victory gif can we just go back to the old truman "we win" meme pic thingie
- JoeRussomanno

I vote we use this as our gameday gif: