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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Sep 22 @ 4:14 PM ET
Were you thinking Bodi from Virginia?
- Scoob

lol
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:15 PM ET
Prepared for the popeocalypse.
- bodiva88


My commute today was magical.

/it was not magical
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 4:17 PM ET
If that was true why wouldn't he have mutually terminated his contract to pursue a team who wanted him?
- Tfaehner


If he did that, he was probably looking at a PTO situation with no guarantee of a contract.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
True. The magic part was that he convinced another GM to take him as he's barely an NHL player, and has a terrible reputation to boot.
- Scoob


I don't think the barely an NHL player is true. There's a lot of players who are not liked by the opposition, because of their style of play. I don't think an NHL GM takes that into consideration.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
Just because he plays in the NHL doesn't mean he's an NHL player, at least not an adequate one.
- jmatchett383


Seriously? He's 25 and is going into his 5th NHL season, and has played 223 NHl games. You may not like him as a player, but that does not change the fact that he is an NHL player.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
Bo diva
- PhillySportsGuy

huh, I always thought she was some kind of fancy chocolate

y'know, like godiva
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
For my own amusement.

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Simmonds
Umberger-Laughton-Schenn
VDV-Bellemare-White

Scratched: Gagner

First call up: Cousins

LeCavalier never touches ice. There is no future for him on this club, what the hell is the point.

- flyer_nutter


until coots can show he can be a numbher 2 center I just dont think read and simmer will fair well with the lack of offensive center coots is...right now.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
I need Bill to text me when he posts a new game day blog.
- ggunky

Set up a google alert
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 4:29 PM ET
until coots can show he can be a numbher 2 center I just dont think read and simmer will fair well with the lack of offensive center coots is...right now.
- jmdodgeser4



Couturier has already shown he can be a number 2 center.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:40 PM ET
Couturier has already shown he can be a number 2 center.
- MJL


when? 37points in 82 games..hardly a number 2 pivot
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:42 PM ET
Couturier has already shown he can be a number 2 center.
- MJL


I'll have to agree with you, possibly for the first time ever.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:44 PM ET
when? 37points in 82 games..hardly a number 2 pivot
- jmdodgeser4


Hard to have a big offensive impact when you're mostly deployed on defensive assignments.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 22 @ 4:44 PM ET
I don't think the barely an NHL player is true. There's a lot of players who are not liked by the opposition, because of their style of play. I don't think an NHL GM takes that into consideration.
- MJL


Imho, far too much risk for far too little reward.

Whatever, he's gone from Philly and I'm good with that.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
Hard to have a big offensive impact when you're mostly deployed on defensive assignments.
- Pecafan Fan


No! Don't do it!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
Seriously? He's 25 and is going into his 5th NHL season, and has played 223 NHl games. You may not like him as a player, but that does not change the fact that he is an NHL player.
- MJL


And Jon Scott has played 274 games over 8 seasons. That still doesn't make him a player who deserves to be in the NHL over a player with any semblance of skill.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
Simmonds had 9 ES points in 287 minutes with Couturier last season.

Without him he scored 14 ES points in 670 minutes.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2014-15&sit=5v5
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:51 PM ET
No! Don't do it!
- PhillySportsGuy


Sorry, but I have to.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Sep 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
Hard to have a big offensive impact when you're mostly deployed on defensive assignments.
- Pecafan Fan


One of the many reasons Laughton as our 3c benefits us more than anyone else. Him and Bellemare at 3 and 4 provide guys who can play good solid defense and allow for a raise from his 2 to 1 defense to offensive zone ratio from last year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
when? 37points in 82 games..hardly a number 2 pivot
- jmdodgeser4



Look at this ES points and compare it to other #2 centers in the league. Then consider his usage, and matchups. He puts up solid ES point totals while playing a lot in defensive zone situations, and against other teams top lines on a regular basis.

There are 30 teams in the league. In the 13/14 season, Couturier scored 31 points at ES. In comparison, noted offensive players such as Jeff Carter, Nick Backstrom scored 35 points, H. Sedin 32, Kadri 32, B. Richards 32,

Last season, his point total dipped slightly at ES, to 29, that put him again tied at 59th among NHL centers, and that was playing a lot of the year with an ineffective Matt Read and Umberger

Play Couturier with healthy players, and in better offensive situations and see what happens. With how Couturier is used, his point production at ES is pretty good. Combined with his strong overall game, he's a #2 center.

Where he isn't good, is on the PP. He also plays on a unit that overall wasn't that good. Maybe the additions of Gagner and Medvedev can improve the 2nd PP unit, and Couturier can pick up some points there.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Sep 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
Simmonds had 9 ES points in 287 minutes with Couturier last season.

Without him he scored 14 ES points in 670 minutes.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2014-15&sit=5v5

- Feanor


Wow. Based on this new assessment he should always be on the ice with coots read and mdz. Raffl occasionally flipped with read.

Not sarcastic.

Amazed to see how awful him and giroux were together.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
And Jon Scott has played 274 games over 8 seasons. That still doesn't make him a player who deserves to be in the NHL over a player with any semblance of skill.
- jmatchett383


Whether you think he is a good NHL player, or if he deserves to be in the NHL in your opinion, is a different conversation. The facts are that Rinaldo is an NHL player.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
Whether you think he is a good NHL player, or if he deserves to be in the NHL in your opinion, is a different conversation. The facts are that Rinaldo is an NHL player.
- MJL


It's just too bad he totally sucks at it...
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 22 @ 5:02 PM ET
It's just too bad he totally sucks at it...
- Pecafan Fan

hes also a joke of a poster
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 5:04 PM ET
It's just too bad he totally sucks at it...
- Pecafan Fan


Very limited player, pretty much just a forechecker and physical player.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 22 @ 5:13 PM ET
You're a g g g g g g g girl??!
- Streit2ThePoint

Well, an old woman, actually. But in the vernacular, yes.
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