I find it kinda humourous how the Leaf players are talking about how much "credibility" Babcock has.

Babcock: 1 Stanley Cup as coach, never played the game at NHL level

Carlyle: 1 Stanley Cup as coach, former Norris trophy winning defenseman

I get Babcock has Olympic gold on his resume and another Cup final appearance, but it's not like Carlyle was some guy who was coaching the Mississauga bantam selects.
- Rang

you gotta take it for what it is

A) they stuck their noses just as far up Carlyle's pooper 3 years ago
B) hockey players are, for lack of a better word, kind of stupid
C) it's preseason and right now it looks like we have 29 playoff teams (Edmonton, obviously)

Yikes...that's about 45 mins away

*loads paint ball gun*
- Garnie

With steel shot.

I think the Flames are due for a little regression

Giordano, Bodie, Gaudreau had huge seasons that I'm not sure they can all reproduce
- twiztedmike

Can't regress hard work and strong coaching. I get that some players had strong seasons, but Gio missed about half the year, and key guys like Bennett/Monny/Gaudreau are a year more experienced.

I find it kinda humourous how the Leaf players are talking about how much "credibility" Babcock has.

Babcock: 1 Stanley Cup as coach, never played the game at NHL level

Carlyle: 1 Stanley Cup as coach, former Norris trophy winning defenseman

I get Babcock has Olympic gold on his resume and another Cup final appearance, but it's not like Carlyle was some guy who was coaching the Mississauga bantam selects.
- Rang

soooo.. Pat Burns was a bum cause he never played hockey and was a police officer before becoming a pro coach?

Can't regress hard work and strong coaching. I get that some players had strong seasons, but Gio missed about half the year, and key guys like Bennett/Monny/Gaudreau are a year more experienced.
- DamnBrasKiss

If the Flames dont improve on last season in regards to shots for/against I look forward to the articles about how they are just not working as hard this season

soooo.. Pat Burns was a bum cause he never played hockey and was a police officer before becoming a pro coach?
- Delryk

how on earth did you arrive at this?

soooo.. Pat Burns was a bum cause he never played hockey and was a police officer before becoming a pro coach?
- Delryk

Scotty Bowman says hey...

how on earth did you arrive at this?
- DoubleDown

someone insinuated that Babcock may not be the greatest coach ever.

Would you rather have Babcock or Carlyle as the Leafs coach?
- senstroll

Babcock, my point is not that Babcock isn't a good coach, just the credibility statement I find puzzling.

how on earth did you arrive at this?
- DoubleDown

He is a great coach that never played at the NHL level, catch up will ya.

He is a great coach that never played at the NHL level, catch up will ya.
- bixll

but that wasn't rang's point... i don't think he was disparaging Babcock in the slightest.

soooo.. Pat Burns was a bum cause he never played hockey and was a police officer before becoming a pro coach?
- Delryk

I didn't say that at all. Don't think Scotty Bowman played a game either at the NHL level.

Simply questioning the "credibility" statement by a number of players.

someone insinuated that Babcock may not be the greatest coach ever.
- Pecafan Fan

Scotty Bowman says hey...

If the Flames dont improve on last season in regards to shots for/against I look forward to the articles about how they are just not working as hard this season
- senstroll

Ill defer that to Mr. Cordell

but that wasn't rang's point... i don't think he was disparaging Babcock in the slightest.
- DoubleDown

But that was his point.

then make him a cup of tea and hide with him, duh. make a game of it.
- daeth

Babcock, my point is not that Babcock isn't a good coach, just the credibility statement I find puzzling.
- Rang

Well RC kinda went in the Toilet.. MB not yet

the Leafs are a great test to see if MB is actually a great coach

you gotta take it for what it is

A) they stuck their noses just as far up Carlyle's pooper 3 years ago
B) hockey players are, for lack of a better word, kind of stupid
C) it's preseason and right now it looks like we have 29 playoff teams (Edmonton, obviously)
- DoubleDown

Hope springs eternal. MLSE has been selling hope, very effectively, for many years.

I must say, he played better last night.
- bixll

Yeah I was surprised. I just assume it is because he was playing against half a team of AHLers

apparently marner and bill ny are playing on a line tonight :D

But that was his point.
- bixll

No, it wasn't. English is not my first language but I think I was quite clear.

Well RC kinda went in the Toilet.. MB not yet

the Leafs are a great test to see if MB is actually a great coach
- senstroll

I think the fact that he has one at every level he has been at shows he is a good coach. I think what he has done in Detroit with all of their injury issues and still managed to get them to the playoffs, shows he is a great coach. But he has a long way to go to be classed with the greatest coaches of all time.

soooo.. Pat Burns was a bum cause he never played hockey and was a police officer before becoming a pro coach?
- Delryk

I don't think that was his point. I this his point was Carlyle has as much legitimacy as a bench boss than Babs yet Randy never received the same level of respect.

I'll argue that Randy let the inmates run the asylum and it also helps that Babs is being paid more than anyone on the team. That takes that whole hierarchical structure from the equation of the coach who makes 1.5 mill a year talking to the spoiled brat hockey player who makes 3-5 times as much. Now the players realize poop, they'll probably get rid of me before they get rid of him.........

No, it wasn't. English is not my first language but I think I was quite clear.
- Rang

Not you, the other guys point.

Not you, the other guys point, Delryk's.
- bixll