I'll even reverse it......put JVR on the Bolts in place of Drouin, and JVR will score more points than Drouin.

I would not do the trade straight up
- jimi james

playing 12 minutes on the bottom 6? Drouin played third line minutes and put up third line numbers.

in this scenario? if i'm Toronto, yes. makes sense to add another top-3 pick for a guy who has plateaued. for Tampa it's lunacy given their contract situation over the next 2-3 years.
- DoubleDown

I would not judge JVR's ceiling until the end of this season

He had his most productive Junior season without Mackinnon...
- Pecafan Fan

And ? How has he done in the NHL..?

in this scenario? if i'm Toronto, yes. makes sense to add another top-3 pick for a guy who has plateaued. for Tampa it's lunacy given their contract situation over the next 2-3 years.
- DoubleDown

Exactly

I would not judge JVR's ceiling until the end of this season
- jimi james

seriously? I wouldn't base my opinion on ANY player on the roster on this season.

They are going to be bad.. really bad this year.

playing 12 minutes on the bottom 6? Drouin played third line minutes and put up third line numbers.
- DoubleDown

4 goals, wow.. alert the Hall of Fame.

Oh yeah he is.



Check out Polak in the bottom right. Barely recognize the guy
- TheThrill

Wow, that seems weird in this day and age.

And ? How has he done in the NHL..?
- bixll

He's done.... Ok

playing 12 minutes on the bottom 6? Drouin played third line minutes and put up third line numbers.
- DoubleDown

that's great for him....IMO JVR would score more in the same slot and minutes

And ? How has he done in the NHL..?
- bixll

Last season, he did pretty much the same as Mackinnon... who had 38pts in 64 games, and Drouin had 32 in 70. Playing on the 3rd line.

I would not judge JVR's ceiling until the end of this season
- jimi james

And then we can trade him once his value is at its lowest Just like Kessel, great strategy.

He's done.... Ok
- robin_steele264

Oh look... the Nova Scotia guy pumping the tires of the Nova Scotia guy... now that's a surprise.

- ThePresident

4 goals, wow.. alert the Hall of Fame.
- bixll

Question is, do we need another small skilled player? Will Drouin be significantly better then Marner or Willie? JVR is our best asset right now, if hes moved it should be for a need

He's done.... Ok
- robin_steele264

Glad you agree. Never said he was done. Said I would not trade him for JVR, and gave my reasons..

If you don;t agree, I could care less.

Oh look... the Nova Scotia guy pumping the tires of the Nova Scotia guy... now that's a surprise.
- Pecafan Fan

Yak > Mack


*bixll explodes*

Oh look... the Nova Scotia guy pumping the tires of the Nova Scotia guy... now that's a surprise.
- Pecafan Fan

Yak > Mack


*bixll explodes*
- robin_steele264

(frank) off Robin.

Well he played with Mac in Halifax during his Jr career. Never even came close to doing what MacKinnon did. Don't see him having a long career in this league.
- bixll

Well Drouin is basically the closest comparable to Marner in regards to scoring in their draft year.

Drouin will be fine, TB has no reason to rush or push him, he had a decent 19 yo NHL season given the time and opportunity.

Glad you agree. Never said he was done. Said I would not trade him for JVR, and gave my reasons..

If you don;t agree, I could care less.
- bixll

I don't know if it's a good trade or not


JVR was a major 'bust' for a while.


Perceived that way anywho

that's great for him....IMO JVR would score more in the same slot and minutes
- jimi james

Nobody is denying that, your argument is ridiculous. Currently, JVR is the better player. Drouin has more potential. That is why you would be able to trade JVR for a player that is still considered to have a lot of potential around the league. It's like trading Kessel for McDavid this season and saying Kessel will outscore him this year so don't do it....you can't see that?

(frank) off Robin.
- bixll

in this scenario? if i'm Toronto, yes. makes sense to add another top-3 pick for a guy who has plateaued. for Tampa it's lunacy given their contract situation over the next 2-3 years.
- DoubleDown

Agreed, the last thing the Bolts need is another expiring UFA due for a raise.

The Babcock team game/system will make the rental plugs, and veterans that need a bounce back year (Lupul & Phaneuf) look better than they are. It might handicap a guy like JVR who is perceived to be a top line power forward.

seriously? I wouldn't base my opinion on ANY player on the roster on this season.

They are going to be bad.. really bad this year.
- TheThrill

I think that they will do better this year than last year...and with JVR, I think we only need one more season with Babs and without Kessel to really know what we have...this season compared with the Kessel and Philly years should be enough to know whether to keep him long term or not